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I am going to come out and say it I think season 3 is going to be a disappointment

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I hate to be a negative Nancy but......

1. I am aware of UGC it sounds great but nothing to write earth about.(especially if they charge for it)
2. Sector Space revamp.....without bridge travel and functionality/ combat is another missed oppurtunity and bust to start with for me. The only redemption is exploration will not have a door to visit to do exploration.
3. I just made Vice Admiral I can not even further my Admiral skills all my points go to my BOs, that is just stupid. They should be able to level up until I max out my skill tree. At this rank we should be able to gain points and unlock all level 3 abilities to train BOs.
4. I have been around since way before launch and fixing bugs are necessary, but not a show stopper for me.
5. Since Jack Emmery thinks STO is TRIBBLE he can fund a team that is a quality control team, to not interrupt our seasons and STO experience.
6. I pledge my support, but my honesty comes with it.
7. It seems as if everything shows up in the C-Store for way to much and the quality is poor (Galaxy X)or better than the in game counterpart (Excelsior).
8. Their is so much we can not customize and so many limitations
a. 5 man away teams I need 7 sometimes
b. we can not set our bridge stations to the ranks we should have there.IE 3 LT Commanders, 2 LT. of the profession of our choice.
c. I asked for this before it was put in the C-Store (:mad:) Extended Commissioned Crew roster
d. I can not bring my away team with me on fleet actions in which there are no other Captains on the map or to fill the team (IE /fillpetteamlist) :mad: so i am a sitting duck.
e. The refit ships cost an arm and a leg to buy in game and out.
f. Item that were asked for while this title was in (or currently is) development should not go in the C-Store, because they should of been in game in the 1st place. (thanks dstahl I know your working on this one)
g. My bridge is useless I should be able to interact with my BOs, set course, travel, sit in a chair,combat, and have full functionality of my bridge and ship interior ASAP!
h. design a ship uniform by class (T,S,E)
i. I heard a voice of Sulu in the Terradome Fleet Action and almost had a heart attack, cause the rest of the game has none. ( by the way my phaser lance did not a scratch to his ship or shields and he detected my cloak)
j. all tier 5 ships need battle cloak now! so we stand a chance against some of these over powered ships in PVE only.
k. I wish STO uses just one currency, using more than one throws off the the entire economy into super inflation.
l. The Exchange BO transfer system I suggested needs to have a place to utilize Fleet Banked Skills. Meaning that you can get that LVL III skill because you fleet is willing to train you in it.
m. Bridges should have actual boarding parties on our ships once our shields fail, and like wise for enemy ship if we so choose.
n. Look at the promo video for this title it sure looks more fun then what I have played.

Thank you.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    needs more player factions... undine ftw then some open pvp... then a message from the devs saying... walaaa now go fourth and slaughter each other.. for the factions owww lets seee...

    Federation
    Klingon
    Romulan
    Spoon head
    Borg
    & Undine

    and thats everyone happy

    (except the anit borg and undine whiners... but... well.. who cares about them? crazy gingers.)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Heh. The only thing we really know about Season 3 is that it wont have a Romulan faction.

    A bit premature, don't you think?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    DeadlyShoe wrote:
    Heh. The only thing we really know about Season 3 is that it wont have a Romulan faction.

    A bit premature, don't you think?

    major setback on my evil undine schemes
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I guess I am not impressed by what I have heard.....and nothing is being said to the contrary.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    1. UGC certainly is something to write homeworld about. People complaining about lack of content? Well now people can make it themselves. And I'm almost certain they won't charge for it, they've never charged for a major feature before.
    2. Bridge travel really wouldn't be as great as it sounds. I don't know what the attraction people have to wandering around their ship for five minutes as they travel from one sector to the next. With the sector space revamp, travel will potentially become more interesting.
    3. The skill limit means you have to put thought into how you distribute them instead of just maxing everything out.
    4. Fixing bugs is vital because there are a lot of showstoppers for everybody else. One I've come across is the inability to load exploration missions, not too big of a deal from my perspective but from a hardcore B'tran grinders it doesn't give the player much motivation to play.
    5. Emmery doesn't think STO is TRIBBLE, he doesn't think it was executed perfectly at launch.
    6. That doesn't mean you need to find a downside to everything including bug fixes. :rolleyes:
    7. It's not everything, and even the stuff that does go C-Store isn't required for play. You don't have to buy them.
    8.
    a. You do not need seven-man away teams. Nobody else does.
    b. Bridge Officer roles are being looked into, which would likely mean you can put them wherever you like on your bridge.
    c. If you're desperate for more BO slots, buy some, but I wouldn't bother.
    d. Fleet actions are meant ot be done in collaboration with other Captains. By allowing BOs to beam down too, everyone would just try and solo them and there would be no point.
    e. So don't buy them.
    f. Vanity items people ask for tend to go in the C-Store because it's the fastest way to get them in-game without a major update and the people who don't want them don't need to buy them.
    g. Yes, interiors need more functionality. However, do you know how much combat from your bridge would suck? Imagine only being able to see in one direction the whole time during a battle. You'd have no idea what's going on aft.
    h. What? Ship costumes are pretty damn customisable by class from where I'm sitting.
    i. Voice acting is being looked into. There's a lot recorded but the devs aren't fully happy with them, so for the time being it's best it be left out.
    j. No, all tier 5 ships do not need battle cloak.
    k. Energy credits are the only curreny used in the player to player economy.
    l. I don't know which system you're talking about here so pass.
    m. That would be cool, but I wouldn't like to be yanked out of a space combat situation into a ground one suddenly.
    n. You must be playing it wrong.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    With such expectations, yes; it'll be a major disappointment. S3 needs to stabilize this game and set some foundations, just throwing more unfinished stuff on top won't make it smell any better.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I hate to be a negative Nancy but......



    Thank you.

    One man's trash is another man's treasure.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010

    What other games have you played where you got to customize as much as you do in this one? I've played a number of MMO's and can't recall a higher level of customization than this. While I'm not saying there aren't any other games out there, there isn't any I can think of. Most of them are more along the lines of "this is what you get" and you just have to settle with that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    So now we've moved on to preemptive complaining? Really?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Sorry i stopped reading your rubbish at this point.

    3. I just made Vice Admiral I can not even further my Admiral skills all my points go to my BOs, that is just stupid. They should be able to level up until I max out my skill tree. At this rank we should be able to gain points and unlock all level 3 abilities to train BOs.

    So let me get this right you want to max out every item on your skill tree ?
    thats just stupid do you think for examples sake (an admiral in the navy)
    Knows everything about everything can thus train all his sailors in every aspec of naval ships/warfare ?

    GET REAL .
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    major setback on my evil undine schemes

    convert to mormonism ,they have magic undies.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    adml_shake wrote: »
    What other games have you played where you got to customize as much as you do in this one? I've played a number of MMO's and can't recall a higher level of customization than this. While I'm not saying there aren't any other games out there, there isn't any I can think of. Most of them are more along the lines of "this is what you get" and you just have to settle with that.

    It does not live up its own hype of being "fully" customizable.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    artic1337 wrote:
    convert to mormonism ,they have magic undies.

    rather make them land on a planet that has weird bugs.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    BBzMadDog wrote: »
    Sorry i stopped reading your rubbish at this point.

    3. I just made Vice Admiral I can not even further my Admiral skills all my points go to my BOs, that is just stupid. They should be able to level up until I max out my skill tree. At this rank we should be able to gain points and unlock all level 3 abilities to train BOs.

    So let me get this right you want to max out every item on your skill tree ?
    thats just stupid do you think for examples sake (an admiral in the navy)
    Knows everything about everything can thus train all his sailors in every aspec of naval ships/warfare ?

    GET REAL .

    The most Elite Admiral in the Navy, i am sure have an understanding of many things and not one narrow career path, and could probably teach you many things about the "different " places/things they have worked on or with. I would give Naval Admirals more credit to there service and experience in all areas of modern warfare.

    I know in a law enforcement agency you can be as diverse as you like in the skill set and may become a jack of all trades master of all if you spend the time on it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    It does not live up its own hype of being "fully" customizable.

    "Fully", in that sense, is relative to what is available in the first place so by that standard, yes, the game is fully customizable. Unless you want to specifically point out where the windows will be located on a ship, too...

    In defense of the customization; unless you actually work for Starfleet in terms of shipdesign, a captain of a vessel is assigned to a ship by superiors. Even if you are such a high rank that you can decide for yourself what you want to fly in, you're still not the designer of it. As such, it's only best to think that when customizing your ship, only larger components may be selected as to say that the ship is built out of different kind of blocks. This compliments the fact further that ships are built out of modules (hence the saucer section able to be removed and reattached as part of its design).

    The "paint" (the patterns) of the ship is a whole different cookie. You get to paint your car, but you (as a consumer) don't get to design your own car.

    But correct me if I'm wrong.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    The most Elite Admiral in the Navy, i am sure have an understanding of many things and not one narrow career path, and could probably teach you many things about the "different " places/things they have worked on or with. I would give Naval Admirals more credit to there service and experience in all areas of modern warfare.

    I know in a law enforcement agency you can be as diverse as you like in the skill set and may become a jack of all trades master of all if you spend the time on it.

    This is a poor argument in favour of not having to think when distributing skill points.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    1. UGC certainly is something to write homeworld about. People complaining about lack of content? Well now people can make it themselves. And I'm almost certain they won't charge for it, they've never charged for a major feature before.

    They said they might charge for it. So be wary.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    hey, Debbie Downer, shut it
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    BBzMadDog wrote: »
    Sorry i stopped reading your rubbish at this point.

    3. I just made Vice Admiral I can not even further my Admiral skills all my points go to my BOs, that is just stupid. They should be able to level up until I max out my skill tree. At this rank we should be able to gain points and unlock all level 3 abilities to train BOs.

    So let me get this right you want to max out every item on your skill tree ?
    thats just stupid do you think for examples sake (an admiral in the navy)
    Knows everything about everything can thus train all his sailors in every aspec of naval ships/warfare ?

    GET REAL .

    Well, a Modern Major General knows quite a bit... Which would be a Rear Admiral Upper Half in the Navy. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Asakara wrote:
    Well, a Modern Major General knows quite a bit... Which would be a Rear Admiral Upper Half in the Navy. :)

    quit a bit is not everything which is what the op asks for .. So im sorry in life there is not one person that knows everything either.

    As some one posted this thread is just for some one who has no idea what to put the points in to to make there ship better
    So rather than sitting down & using the easymode drop down menu they just want like an extra 150,000 skill points so that they can max everything out.
    & you know what i bet this person is just miffed because he goes in to pvp & gets owned.
    So thinks well if i could max everything out that would mean i would get it right & my ship wouldnt get owned.
    Well news flash if everyone was able to max everything out the OP would still get owned in pvp.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I hate to be a negative Nancy but......

    1. I am aware of UGC it sounds great but nothing to write earth about.(especially if they charge for it)
    2. Sector Space revamp.....without bridge travel and functionality/ combat is another missed oppurtunity and bust to start with for me. The only redemption is exploration will not have a door to visit to do exploration.
    3. I just made Vice Admiral I can not even further my Admiral skills all my points go to my BOs, that is just stupid. They should be able to level up until I max out my skill tree. At this rank we should be able to gain points and unlock all level 3 abilities to train BOs.
    4. I have been around since way before launch and fixing bugs are necessary, but not a show stopper for me.
    5. Since Jack Emmery thinks STO is TRIBBLE he can fund a team that is a quality control team, to not interrupt our seasons and STO experience.
    6. I pledge my support, but my honesty comes with it.
    7. It seems as if everything shows up in the C-Store for way to much and the quality is poor (Galaxy X)or better than the in game counterpart (Excelsior).
    8. Their is so much we can not customize and so many limitations
    a. 5 man away teams I need 7 sometimes
    b. we can not set our bridge stations to the ranks we should have there.IE 3 LT Commanders, 2 LT. of the profession of our choice.
    c. I asked for this before it was put in the C-Store (:mad:) Extended Commissioned Crew roster
    d. I can not bring my away team with me on fleet actions in which there are no other Captains on the map or to fill the team (IE /fillpetteamlist) :mad: so i am a sitting duck.
    e. The refit ships cost an arm and a leg to buy in game and out.
    f. Item that were asked for while this title was in (or currently is) development should not go in the C-Store, because they should of been in game in the 1st place. (thanks dstahl I know your working on this one)
    g. My bridge is useless I should be able to interact with my BOs, set course, travel, sit in a chair,combat, and have full functionality of my bridge and ship interior ASAP!
    h. design a ship uniform by class (T,S,E)
    i. I heard a voice of Sulu in the Terradome Fleet Action and almost had a heart attack, cause the rest of the game has none. ( by the way my phaser lance did not a scratch to his ship or shields and he detected my cloak)
    j. all tier 5 ships need battle cloak now! so we stand a chance against some of these over powered ships in PVE only.
    k. I wish STO uses just one currency, using more than one throws off the the entire economy into super inflation.
    l. The Exchange BO transfer system I suggested needs to have a place to utilize Fleet Banked Skills. Meaning that you can get that LVL III skill because you fleet is willing to train you in it.
    m. Bridges should have actual boarding parties on our ships once our shields fail, and like wise for enemy ship if we so choose.
    n. Look at the promo video for this title it sure looks more fun then what I have played.

    Thank you.

    i'm going to avoid most of the post so just 3 things:

    1. yellow is a really horrible font color choice.
    2. customization options is a personal expectation thing. its hard to argue that char customization is limited. i've spent 45 mins working on the look of BO that have never seen action. but i did expect more out of ship customization. someone posted about sto being better at customization than other games, i think aion tops sto. char options are incredible and the ability to alter gear appearance was something i've never seen before. game was really boring though.
    3. skill points need to be restricted. there's no point in having skill points and talent trees if you get to have all of them. i rolled 4 toons so i could mix-up my talent choices.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    So now we've moved on to preemptive complaining? Really?

    LOL!Cmon ive been playing online long enough to know these types will always be around.The poster must a fortune teller.Unfortunately most of them are wrong a large percentage of the time.

    And as far as customizing your character goes, try one of those Asian MMOs then come back and tell me how customizable they are.There is only one im playing right now.And its not for the customization/graphics i assure you.Western MMOs still have a gigantic lead in high end graphics for MMOs at this time.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    It does not live up its own hype of being "fully" customizable.

    You know hype is not legally binding right?
    The biggest problem with games like this that there is enough time between updates for people to read to much into each word that the Devs release and then spend the next month picking it apart and reading there own wishes or fears in to it all.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Saying would mean knowing.
    You do not know, so you can not say.


    I hope it is exactly what they say- an across the board attempt to fix bugs.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    g. My bridge is useless I should be able to interact with my BOs, set course, travel, sit in a chair,combat, and have full functionality of my bridge and ship interior ASAP!

    given the engine and the way the game was designed, this is never going to happen. ever. this has been discussed several times already.
    j. all tier 5 ships need battle cloak now! so we stand a chance against some of these over powered ships in PVE only.

    no they don't. you just need to learn how to use the ship you have properly.
    Bridges should have actual boarding parties on our ships once our shields fail, and like wise for enemy ship if we so choose.

    while this would make for interesting gameplay it isn't possible to implement. it would entail dropping out in the middle of a fight to load a ship instance and fight in it and then go back to the fight where you left off. its neither possible nor practical. especially in a fight that may involve other players. do you want players disappearing and reappearing at random in the middle of major battles?
    Federation
    Klingon
    Romulan
    Spoon head
    Borg
    & Undine

    and thats everyone happy

    half the population if not more would leave if all of those factions were included. its fine right up till you say borg and undine. neither will ever be added as player factions, nor should they be. though i'm pretty sure you're right about the order the others will be added to the game. after cardassian the only faction I can see as being possible to add would be the dominion. perhaps altering the engineering/science/tactical careers to correspond to various castes. ie: tactical would make you a Jem'Hadar, the rest would make you a specific type of vorta or some other member species with the diplomacy feature awarding you a playable vorta species when you reach a certain rank, or something of that nature.
    S3 needs to stabilize this game and set some foundations, just throwing more unfinished stuff on top won't make it smell any better.

    this is correct
    They said they might charge for it. So be wary.

    indeed. *cough* city of heroes architecht edition *cough*
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Roach wrote: »
    I hope it is exactly what they say- an across the board attempt to fix bugs.

    Across the board. Heck yes please!

    I'm talking big bugs and little ones. Little organizational discrepancies need to get picked up on. Stuff people have been reporting for ages. Like no antiproton boosting consoles at vendors. And like KDF vendors selling more phasers than disruptors. And like Starfleet vendors selling more disruptors than phasers! Heck overhaul all vendors to work more like the Battlegroup Omega and Mk XI Emblem vendors. Tabs, neatly arranged and organized, with all items represented!

    And big bugs! Like teaming up being broken. Or empty aid the planets. Or Crimto dual pistols doing way too much damage.

    Everything from tiny typos to server stability. An across the board check. A full diagnostic!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    Bug fixes. Nothing more...surely nothing less. Polish the hell out of the game too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    superchum wrote: »
    Heck overhaul all vendors to work more like the Battlegroup Omega and Mk XI Emblem vendors. Tabs, neatly arranged and organized, with all items represented!

    Heavens Yes! All vendors need to be that way, imo.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    I just feel season 3 need much more than just bug fixes and will not attract new players or retain current ones.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited August 2010
    wrote:
    I just feel season 3 need much more than just bug fixes and will not attract new players or retain current ones.
    Well, that's not what my tea leaves told me.

    If I interpreted it right, there is even a decent chance it might cure cancer.
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