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Question for the devs. Why are we not getting any new bridge officers awarded to us from levels 46-51? Before these new ranks, we got them quite often. In fact, no less than once every three grades, sometimes every two or sometime on consecutive grades. Is this working as intended?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    A great question. One that didn't get answered when it was on tribble. Hopefully more will ask it now that it's live and an answer can be obtained.

    I will keep an eye on this thread.

    :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I'm interested in this too. I'd very much like to receive some new BOff's as I continue to level up. Especially when new races for them are being added and so on. Go buy them on the exchange is not a good answer, IMO, given that any officers with traits comparable to the ones I have already available are priced at outrageous levels.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    superchum wrote: »
    A great question. One that didn't get answered when it was on tribble. Hopefully more will ask it now that it's live and an answer can be obtained.

    I will keep an eye on this thread.

    :)

    Indeed. The other reward related question was why are no item rewards given out for any of the new story missions?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Vampeiyre wrote:
    Question for the devs. Why are we not getting any new bridge officers awarded to us from levels 46-51? Before these new ranks, we got them quite often. In fact, no less than once every three grades, sometimes every two or sometime on consecutive grades. Is this working as intended?

    Also - will we ever get any more FREE bridge officer slots as we level up?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Indeed. The other reward related question was why are no item rewards given out for any of the new story missions?

    Do trophies count?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Also - will we ever get any more FREE bridge officer slots as we level up?

    i believe, they have changed few rules lately when a player is reaching Higher levels

    1) you can t buy additional ships with EC anymore past VA after you get your free ship token, you can obtain them by grinding a lot or spending some C store points.

    2) and to answer your question, you don t get any more BOff while ranking up cause you can buy some from the C store now.

    i could add my own comments but i rather you make your own conclusion.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~GM Tiyshen
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I would have had liked to see more very rare bridge officers crop up from 46 to 51 too.

    From my point of view, not getting anyfor those levels was an abberation. Not to mention it might've been nice to have a chance to get some good ones too (my purple boffs given to me were a bunch of ferengi, saurians and bajorans - blegh!).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Vampeiyre wrote:
    Don't you C-Store goblins ever get tired of crying? Go ask your girlfriend for a tissue already.

    While I agree that it wouldn't be prudent to derail this thread with a long protracted and most likely heated discussion about the C-Store ...

    One of the reasons they may have not given out BOFF rewards while levelling up ... and not give out 2 new BO slots when you hit Vice Admiral could be because of recent additions to the C-Store.

    It's just a guess. So it could be wrong.

    This is why some official dev response would be helpful here.

    So I appreciate the sentiment of your post, and I too would not like this thread to go off-topic and get all C-Store focused.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Vampeiyre wrote:
    Don't you C-Store goblins ever get tired of crying? Go ask your girlfriend for a tissue already.

    i don t believe i ve deserved to be trolled...since i only gave a correct answer based on facts...:confused:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Venatici wrote:
    i don t believe i ve deserved to be trolled...since i only gave a correct answer based on facts...:confused:

    I agree you did not deserve to be snapped at like that. But keep in mind your own post starts out with "I believe" ... so you're making a guess. A decent guess. But it's still a guess. So it's not quite based on facts. If I were at the dabo table I'd place a bet on you being right. But ... it's all still speculation since we haven't gotten an official word on the issue yet.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    superchum wrote: »
    I agree you did not deserve to be snapped at like that. But keep in mind your own post starts out with "I believe" ... so you're making a guess. A decent guess. But it's still a guess. So it's not quite based on facts. If I were at the dabo table I'd place a bet on you being right. But ... it's all still speculation since we haven't gotten an official word on the issue yet.


    my mistake... not facts just my analyse based on facts (they stopped giving BO and BO slots as well as extra ships for EC while offereing similar services in the C store)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    If we aren't getting new BOs for levels 46+ .... what ends up being our BO limit?

    I'm a Captain (idk what number that is) with 8 Officers and I was led to believe throughout Alpha, Beta and the launch of STO that we would get 12.

    So as long as I get my 12 Officers I'm happy.....if I get less: *tear* :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Oh, no doubt we'll soon have a new option in the C-Store.

    400 Cryptic Points for a random Very Rare Bridge Officer.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    We held off on Bridge Officer Rewards at higher levels because receiving "Free Crew" is something for lower ranks and we expect Admirals to be actively looking for better crew from other ships. Also one of the reasons we added commissioned officer trading.

    Couple this with our plans for First Officer and being able to convert a First Officer to their own playable Captain and there were many reasons why we held off on giving them as free rewards from ranking up.

    I'd prefer you have to find good rare bridge officers and that is something we're looking to improve through mission rewards instead of rank up rewards.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    We held off on Bridge Officer Rewards at higher levels because receiving "Free Crew" is something for lower ranks and we expect Admirals to be actively looking for better crew from other ships. Also one of the reasons we added commissioned officer trading.

    Couple this with our plans for First Officer and being able to convert a First Officer to their own playable Captain and there were many reasons why we held off on giving them as free rewards from ranking up.

    I'd prefer you have to find good rare bridge officers and that is something we're looking to improve through mission rewards instead of rank up rewards.

    Aid and diplomatic missions were meant once upon a time to offer us chance to acquire BO's from those species. Is that still in the plans?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    We held off on Bridge Officer Rewards at higher levels because receiving "Free Crew" is something for lower ranks and we expect Admirals to be actively looking for better crew from other ships.

    I'm not sure what that statement means. How do we get Bridge officers from other ships? The only way I know of getting new and better BOs is through the level awards, from the exchange, from the BO shop and now trading with other players.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    We held off on Bridge Officer Rewards at higher levels because receiving "Free Crew" is something for lower ranks and we expect Admirals to be actively looking for better crew from other ships. Also one of the reasons we added commissioned officer trading.

    Couple this with our plans for First Officer and being able to convert a First Officer to their own playable Captain and there were many reasons why we held off on giving them as free rewards from ranking up.

    I'd prefer you have to find good rare bridge officers and that is something we're looking to improve through mission rewards instead of rank up rewards.

    so your working on a new system to let us find rare bos, but until then how about you actually keep the system thats in place going until you actually put the new system in, putting a system in place and then saying oh we're going to replace this system with something new, then shut it down before the new system is in place is.. well im pretty sure you dont want me to say those words ont he forums.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Dare wrote: »
    I'm not sure what that statement means. How do we get Bridge officers from other ships? The only way I know of getting new and better BOs is through the level awards, from the exchange, from the BO shop and now trading with other players.

    I believe "from other ships" means trading with other players. I could be wrong.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    We held off on Bridge Officer Rewards at higher levels because receiving "Free Crew" is something for lower ranks and we expect Admirals to be actively looking for better crew from other ships. Also one of the reasons we added commissioned officer trading.

    Couple this with our plans for First Officer and being able to convert a First Officer to their own playable Captain and there were many reasons why we held off on giving them as free rewards from ranking up.

    I'd prefer you have to find good rare bridge officers and that is something we're looking to improve through mission rewards instead of rank up rewards.

    This sounds actually good. Yeah i'm hoping one could maybe get a officer as you do a certain mission.
    As the system they are working on in TOR were one get companions as they lv up.Hoping this will be something will will get in STO. Btw would be very nice if we could have 1 officer beam down with us as we are on space stations etc, would be a nice touch.Maybe as a option.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Kuston wrote:
    so your working on a new system to let us find rare bos, but until then how about you actually keep the system thats in place going until you actually put the new system in, putting a system in place and then saying oh we're going to replace this system with something new, then shut it down before the new system is in place is.. well im pretty sure you dont want me to say those words ont he forums.

    The point was that we purposly did not want to give out any more bridge officers as rank up rewards. Having a reward in the game and then taking it away is something we don't want to do. So we'd rather you instead find them through the mission reward system.. and yes we are hoping to finally implement a system where you can find random alien bridge officers at some point.

    There are bridge officers available - we just don't plan to give them out as rank up rewards at higher tiers.

    It also encourages others to trade their commissioned officers with other players.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    What about Memory Alpha?

    One of the featured highlights of Memory Alpha while the game was still in development was the opportunity to obtain or improve your present bridge officers. Is Memory Alpha, in time, going to live up to the hype in such a fashion?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I am not really at a loss for BOs at the moment and I have a few that I do not really use. There are no BOs that can be acquired by ranking up that cannot also be bought on the exchange or traded? However, it would be interesting to get some unique alien BOs that come from random civilizations encountered on missions.

    Complaining about not getting the BOs above Admiral comes off as much ado about nothing, but that seems to be what a lot of feedback on the forums is. Depending on what individual players have done with their BOs over time, they should be wading through them. I would rather wait and get some new interesting ones than get the same ones I have been discarding.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    The point was that we purposly did not want to give out any more bridge officers as rank up rewards. Having a reward in the game and then taking it away is something we don't want to do. So we'd rather you instead find them through the mission reward system.. and yes we are hoping to finally implement a system where you can find random alien bridge officers at some point.

    There are bridge officers available - we just don't plan to give them out as rank up rewards at higher tiers.

    It also encourages others to trade their commissioned officers with other players.

    So those that do not wish to take part in PVE have another option? I'm sorry to say I detest PVE in its current state as it always leads to an away mission. Pure space PVE is so rare I just avoid it all together.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    see the other thread about "bridge officer shortage" for some details I posted about our idea to solve the how do I get new officers...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I for one am thankful there's no more "freebies" being given out..

    99% of them end up on the exchange from me anyway..

    i've always wanted to have a choice of race/sex/profession in Boffs and being assigned female pakled tactical officers randomly when i'm after a vulcan male scientist is just frustrating.

    however, its also a little off-putting when the only way to get green/blue/purple Boffs appears to be from this random assignment.. so if you want a specific race/sex/profession combination as a rare officer you're stuck waiting on someone to put them on the exchange (or willing to trade them now)

    to DStahl -

    the whole officer assignment aspect once you hit commander could do with an overhaul.. at that point players should be able to start to have more choice in rarity/race/sex/profession with the "assigned" officers, maybe expand on the personel section of the star bases to have an officer exchange program (discharged Boffs get sent there, with skill points intact but more skill points means higher merit price) to give the players more freedom of choice?

    just a thought
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    I'd prefer you have to find good rare bridge officers and that is something we're looking to improve through mission rewards instead of rank up rewards.

    This should be tied to diplomacy and star cluster missions where we help aliens with certain things. And it would be 1000% cooler if the BO reward isn't some random species but from the species we actually helped during the mission.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    We held off on Bridge Officer Rewards at higher levels because receiving "Free Crew" is something for lower ranks and we expect Admirals to be actively looking for better crew from other ships. Also one of the reasons we added commissioned officer trading.

    Couple this with our plans for First Officer and being able to convert a First Officer to their own playable Captain and there were many reasons why we held off on giving them as free rewards from ranking up.

    I'd prefer you have to find good rare bridge officers and that is something we're looking to improve through mission rewards instead of rank up rewards.

    I look forward to being able to receive random Bridge Officers from missions.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Venatici wrote:
    i don t believe i ve deserved to be trolled...since i only gave a correct answer based on facts...:confused:

    I disagree with your assertion that you response was level-headed. It's undercurrent, coupled with your signatures being various C-Store related griping makes it rather impossible to take your point seriously.

    I admit my response came off a bit sharper than intended, but I'm beyond tired of hearing people moan about how unjust people think the C-Store is. It is not constructive or even rational, at this point.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    We held off on Bridge Officer Rewards at higher levels because receiving "Free Crew" is something for lower ranks and we expect Admirals to be actively looking for better crew from other ships. Also one of the reasons we added commissioned officer trading.

    Couple this with our plans for First Officer and being able to convert a First Officer to their own playable Captain and there were many reasons why we held off on giving them as free rewards from ranking up.

    I'd prefer you have to find good rare bridge officers and that is something we're looking to improve through mission rewards instead of rank up rewards.

    Thank you very much for posting some very informative official information in my thread Daniel. Very much appreciated.
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