Can you put Season 2 on hold and add more Klingon elements to it? And while that is going on you can flush out the other problems in QA? I feel Season 2 seems rushed....
Can you put Season 2 on hold and add more Klingon elements to it? And while that is going on you can flush out the other problems in QA? I feel Season 2 seems rushed....
Why not let them get Season 2 out and then add more klingon stuff ? Would give me a reason to revive my single klingon toon.
Can you put Season 2 on hold and add more Klingon elements to it? And while that is going on you can flush out the other problems in QA? I feel Season 2 seems rushed....
Rushed how. Most of what they said would be in it will actulally be in there.
Klingons are getting content lots of it.
The flushing out of older content will take a while and it it hold season 2 off for months.
That's something that would not be fair to even the Klingons.
Flushing out content can be done while seasons are released as most end game players
get no benefit from the flushed out content on the lower or middle of the game.
Klingons are a PVP faction and are getting more content to make it fair to them.
Patience is the key. No other Faction will ever have equal footing with the Federation.
That is something that has never happened in all of Star Trek. Star Trek is mostly the Federation and everything
else supports that in all Star trek. There will be no delays. Nothing has been rushed. DEAL WITH IT.
Rushed how. Most of what they said would be in it will actulally be in there. Klingons are getting content lots of it.
The flushing out of older content will take a while and it it hold season 2 off for months.
That's something that would not be fair to even the Klingons.
Flushing out content can be done while seasons are released as most end game players
get no benefit from the flushed out content on the lower or middle of the game.
Klingons are a PVP faction and are getting more content to make it fair to them.
Patience is the key. No other Faction will ever have equal footing with the Federation.
That is something that has never happened in all of Star Trek. Star Trek is mostly the Federation and everything
else supports that in all Star trek. There will be no delays. Nothing has been rushed. DEAL WITH IT.
Sorry, I can't agree with you. AS KLINGON CONTENT PRE-DATES SEASON 2. If they did things like they said, Season 2 can release on schedule, but they swepted it under the rug, time to man up, fix the problem, then continue on the schedule.
FYI - Please review your statements, and read a few of the forum threads on what Season 2 really gives the Klingons... The highlighted segment made me laugh so hard...
Sorry, I can't agree with you. AS KLINGON CONTENT PRE-DATES SEASON 2. If they did things like they said, Season 2 can release on schedule, but they swepted it under the rug, time to man up, fix the problem, then continue on the schedule.
FYI - Please review your statements, and read a few of the forum threads on what Season 2 really gives the Klingons... The highlighted segment made me laugh so hard...
you forget the species that gives feds and Klingons missions thats new and thats more as well.
the game has a storyline and it is following that. Klingons have to deal with it. it is what it is.
You Knew it was a PVP Faction when you made the toon and Now you scream you want something else.
I don't feel sorry for you if you knowing use something thats limited and complain with limited.
there is no surprise there. Some Klingons take it out on fed players like its our fault or we have a say in your content. Now many are avoiding PVP because its no fun to go up against a pvp klingon fleet.
case in point fvf is full and fvk is always half empty or 0 vs 0. you complain about ships well recommend some and stop comparing yourself to the Feds. Feds are not a pvp only faction and the game revolves around them.
DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
In fact USS_Enterprise_J I bet you would change your mind if you have to level up a klingon to captain. grinding exploration missions over, and over. I bet you would not have what it takes to take one up to even captain.
Can do but won't I can't stand the whining in Klingon zone chat. or anywhere else for that matter. I seem to remember this discussion pre-release and the Klingons were so tough that they were putting down any form of PvE in favor of PvP. I could be wrong, I have been wrong before and will be again but I don't think so this time.
Well to the klingons defense again. IF THEY WERE A PVP FACTION THEN WHY WOULD CRYPTIC NERF THE MAIN WAY TO GET XP FOR THEM. THROUGH PVP.
this is something Cryptic has stated time and time again.
Now they are responding to deams for many things if they Nerf everyone gets nerfed
to make the game fair. but if you go back to the core argument cryptic has stated that the Klingon faction was to be a PVP and thats what they are. Now they are giving them content. Its not that I disagree witht them being anything else. Im just stating a fact of why things are the way they are. I dont think any Faction should have started as a PVP Faction. I think it was very lazy of cryptic. every faction should have an epic storyline and there are plenty to work with for all the Star Trek Factions.
this is something Cryptic has stated time and time again.
Now they are responding to deams for many things if they Nerf everyone gets nerfed
to make the game fair. but if you go back to the core argument cryptic has stated that the Klingon faction was to be a PVP and thats what they are. Now they are giving them content. Its not that I disagree witht them being anything else. Im just stating a fact of why things are the way they are. I dont think any Faction should have started as a PVP Faction. I think it was very lazy of cryptic. every faction should have an epic storyline and there are plenty to work with for all the Star Trek Factions.
LOL you joined in February? On release??? Sorry but anything you say about "all along" means nothing to me as you weren't even registered on the forums till the game went live..... Heck, were you even in Beta? All this talk about "how it was" from someone who wasn't even there..... WOW
Read the other threads for the history, and I appreciate Zodi for putting some backing to the state of game history and promises. Much respect there.
In fact USS_Enterprise_J I bet you would change your mind if you have to level up a klingon to captain. grinding exploration missions over, and over. I bet you would not have what it takes to take one up to even captain.
Actually, this is how I play all my characters.
I don't PvP, and the xp gains from doing regular quests is excessive, so I play only exploration missions. I don't even get the quests to DO the exploration missions.
Of course, this also means I don't get any new officers or fancy gear, or even exploration badges.
I wonder if I'll be able to do Diplomatic content... It's all missions, and might skew my xp...
I have to say, I have no problem with keeping the Klingons PvP based only, like they said pre-launch, if the XP for PvP wasn't so frickin crappy. I mean in the time I finish one Federation PvE mission, I have gained 2 to 3 times what I would have on the Klingon side, in around half the time. As it stands, with such low XP and almost no one on PvP, I think Klingons deserve PvE.
I dont think any Faction should have started as a PVP Faction. I think it was very lazy of cryptic. every faction should have an epic storyline and there are plenty to work with for all the Star Trek Factions.
If that's the truth then they need to fix the mistake, and 8 missions in 6 months is not going to do it. a mission a week for the next year mite do it, but how many people will we lose over that time period? Now putting season 2 on hold is not a good idea, but they need to change their resources just a little bit, for a little bit of time. right now I estimate that Cryptic is working 75 to 80% on feds, and 25 to 20 % on the klingons. if they switch that around for ONE month that would get them a start on fixing it. it would not fix it but it would get them a boost to get it done.
I have to say, I have no problem with keeping the Klingons PvP based only, like they said pre-launch, if the XP for PvP wasn't so frickin crappy. I mean in the time I finish one Federation PvE mission, I have gained 2 to 3 times what I would have on the Klingon side, in around half the time. As it stands, with such low XP and almost no one on PvP, I think Klingons deserve PvE.
I have to say, I have no problem with keeping the Klingons PvP based only, like they said pre-launch, if the XP for PvP wasn't so frickin crappy. I mean in the time I finish one Federation PvE mission, I have gained 2 to 3 times what I would have on the Klingon side, in around half the time. As it stands, with such low XP and almost no one on PvP, I think Klingons deserve PvE.
I think Klingons deserve PvE as well but the constant whining is not helping matters. It is constant by the way, even though I understand the reasons for it, it still reminds me of mosquitos singing veruca salt's part.
Probably was a mistake to reduce the PvP exp without having an alternative method of levelling but I still seem to recall that it was wanted this way by the Klingon pvp community that is long since gone.
No, Season 2 needs to come out because the sooner its out people can go all nuts leveling with the new content and do the new grindy dailies.
While Fed players are doing that... they wont be moaning as much about being bored at Endgame so Klingons can get some improvements. Regardless, holding back Season 2 would be suicidal. They have to at least try and release SOMETHING within the month.
Although seeing as how they have ALREADY delayed Season 2 far longer than it should be AND whats on Tribble isnt the FULL deal. Yeah, I suspect its already going to end up being delayed more unless Cryptic have managed to introduce no new bugs with the new test build thats coming tommorrow.
If that's the truth then they need to fix the mistake, and 8 missions in 6 months is not going to do it. a mission a week for the next year mite do it, but how many people will we lose over that time period? Now putting season 2 on hold is not a good idea, but they need to change their resources just a little bit, for a little bit of time. right now I estimate that Cryptic is working 75 to 80% on feds, and 25 to 20 % on the klingons. if they switch that around for ONE month that would get them a start on fixing it. it would not fix it but it would get them a boost to get it done.
One month of solid work, would be a good change. I concur.
you don't have to attack to get your points across.
it doesn't matter when I joined. I wouldn't have a Klingon toon as I don't personaly care for them for me.
To each their own. Its almost Aug. and from Feburay to now it a good amount of time to see what the game is about and what is what. attack attack im not against Klingons at all. My fleet is on both sides of the game.
I help both sides. I tell it like it is. you can attack me but it changes nothing about the truth.
When I saw it was a PVP faction I said nope not for me. You want to be in that faction awesome. I have much respect for end game Klingon players. That changes nothing about what that Faction is a PVP Faction and Beta isn't what we are playing. we are Live. Deal with it. Attacking to prove a point is the actions of someone who has nothing left to make true points about. I hope you get all you ask for from cryptic.
I can understand the reasoning of the klingon players. I am not one of them however.
I play FED. And once you hit cap there is absolutely nothing to do except PVP and exploration. The zerfests that are the STFs are just horrible.
Postponing Season 2 isn't a good idea. It will most likely turn a lot of people away from the game. Season 2 has what many of us desperately want and no one is willing to wat any longer. Remember when Season two was supposed to be released on July 15th? Now it is the 27th of July. 12 days late!
Season 2 is the most important update yet. It will be what keeps me in the game. If it is postponed I would not renew my sub.
I understand you want more klingon content. Wait for the next updates. I am sure cryptic will continue to make content for you. There is a lot of klingon content in Season 2 if you compare it with previous updates in my opinion.
you don't have to attack to get your points across.
it doesn't matter when I joined. I wouldn't have a Klingon toon as I don't personaly care for them for me.
To each their own. Its almost Aug. and from Feburay to now it a good amount of time to see what the game is about and what is what. attack attack im not against Klingons at all. My fleet is on both sides of the game.
I help both sides. I tell it like it is. you can attack me but it changes nothing about the truth.
When I saw it was a PVP faction I said nope not for me. You want to be in that faction awesome. I have much respect for end game Klingon players. That changes nothing about what that Faction is a PVP Faction and Beta isn't what we are playing. we are Live. Deal with it. Attacking to prove a point is the actions of someone who has nothing left to make true points about. I hope you get all you ask for from cryptic.
Yeah, well the fact I pre-ordered lifetime subscribed off the fact that this is WHAT WAS PROMISED.... I have all the rights in the world to contest this argument. As for your analysis, I am going to make a new mini game where I count how many times you said "deal with it"
I can understand the reasoning of the klingon players. I am not one of them however.
I play FED. And once you hit cap there is absolutely nothing to do except PVP and exploration. The zerfests that are the STFs are just horrible.
Postponing Season 2 isn't a good idea. It will most likely turn a lot of people away from the game. Season 2 has what many of us desperately want and no one is willing to wat any longer. Remember when Season two was supposed to be released on July 15th? Now it is the 27th of July. 12 days late!
Season 2 is the most important update yet. It will be what keeps me in the game. If it is postponed I would not renew my sub.
I understand you want more klingon content. Wait for the next updates. I am sure cryptic will continue to make content for you. There is a lot of klingon content in Season 2 if you compare it with previous updates in my opinion.
Just my two cents.
FYI - Season One was suppose to be "our" update. What happened there???
FYI - Season One was suppose to be "our" update. What happened there???
Development must have taken longer than expected.
The Star Trek Online Team doesn't have the same funding or the huge staff of people working for them like Blizzard has for WoW.
They are doing the best they can in the short amount of time they are given.
There are lots of times when I see the devs online and posting in the forum that they are still working late into the night for us. Sometimes I wonder if they even go home.
Development takes time! They are already working on Klingon stuff as stated by them.
Yeah, well the fact I pre-ordered lifetime subscribed off the fact that this is WHAT WAS PROMISED.... I have all the rights in the world to contest this argument. As for your analysis, I am going to make a new mini game where I count how many times you said "deal with it"
FYI - Season One was suppose to be "our" update. What happened there???
I love star trek but I would never buy a lifetime subscription as you always get messed over.
I don't know who promised you anything but you should contact them and get all up in their face about it.
They have your money and are siting pretty while you complain on the forums and they don't even hear you.
Fine print is a real mother++++ and thats where they always get everyone. I do hope you get all you ask for from cryptic
I love star trek but I would never buy a lifetime subscription as you always get messed over.
I don't know who promised you anything but you should contact them and get all up in their face about it.
They have your money and are siting pretty while you complain on the forums and they don't even hear you.
Fine print is a real mother++++ and thats where they always get everyone. I do hope you get all you ask for from cryptic
Rational enough, thanks. I don't want Federation stuff slowed down. People are getting this whole Klingon concept a little tilted. I hope you and Zodi and others get all the stuff you want. I want the game to grow, I just see how they keep pulling the rug out on somethings and at somepoint, you gotta draw a line. Because it may be Klingons for now, but later, it's going to be bugs on the Fed side, or even no new content except what is sold in the C-Store even while your still paying a sub.... At some point, the line must be drawn.
This is that time. And I love Romulans, I don't want them postponed but do I want Romulans done right? Or do I want Romulans "Klingon'ed" in?
Ok I'm a federation only player, but I only have to correct this. 8 MISSIONS IS NOT A LOT. 1 SHIP IS NOT A LOT. THEY ARE NOT GETTING LOTS OF IT.
The shared missions can be played by Klingons as well. And as Kestrel has already posted, have different text for the KDF. I understand most people don't read the text, but, going off of that, the KDF have different, klingon specific, mission variations.
It's more than just 8 missions.
That keeps getting overlooked.
Just like, while everyone's talking about the Ablative Armor ... they keep overlooking the change to shield resistance.
Details keep getting buried. Must be because this is a pretty huge patch.
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Why not let them get Season 2 out and then add more klingon stuff ? Would give me a reason to revive my single klingon toon.
Rushed how. Most of what they said would be in it will actulally be in there.
Klingons are getting content lots of it.
The flushing out of older content will take a while and it it hold season 2 off for months.
That's something that would not be fair to even the Klingons.
Flushing out content can be done while seasons are released as most end game players
get no benefit from the flushed out content on the lower or middle of the game.
Klingons are a PVP faction and are getting more content to make it fair to them.
Patience is the key. No other Faction will ever have equal footing with the Federation.
That is something that has never happened in all of Star Trek. Star Trek is mostly the Federation and everything
else supports that in all Star trek. There will be no delays. Nothing has been rushed. DEAL WITH IT.
Ok I'm a federation only player, but I only have to correct this. 8 MISSIONS IS NOT A LOT. 1 SHIP IS NOT A LOT. THEY ARE NOT GETTING LOTS OF IT.
Sorry, I can't agree with you. AS KLINGON CONTENT PRE-DATES SEASON 2. If they did things like they said, Season 2 can release on schedule, but they swepted it under the rug, time to man up, fix the problem, then continue on the schedule.
FYI - Please review your statements, and read a few of the forum threads on what Season 2 really gives the Klingons... The highlighted segment made me laugh so hard...
Thanks Zodi...
you forget the species that gives feds and Klingons missions thats new and thats more as well.
the game has a storyline and it is following that. Klingons have to deal with it. it is what it is.
You Knew it was a PVP Faction when you made the toon and Now you scream you want something else.
I don't feel sorry for you if you knowing use something thats limited and complain with limited.
there is no surprise there. Some Klingons take it out on fed players like its our fault or we have a say in your content. Now many are avoiding PVP because its no fun to go up against a pvp klingon fleet.
case in point fvf is full and fvk is always half empty or 0 vs 0. you complain about ships well recommend some and stop comparing yourself to the Feds. Feds are not a pvp only faction and the game revolves around them.
DEAL WITH IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well to the klingons defense again. IF THEY WERE A PVP FACTION THEN WHY WOULD CRYPTIC NERF THE MAIN WAY TO GET XP FOR THEM. THROUGH PVP.
this is something Cryptic has stated time and time again.
Now they are responding to deams for many things if they Nerf everyone gets nerfed
to make the game fair. but if you go back to the core argument cryptic has stated that the Klingon faction was to be a PVP and thats what they are. Now they are giving them content. Its not that I disagree witht them being anything else. Im just stating a fact of why things are the way they are. I dont think any Faction should have started as a PVP Faction. I think it was very lazy of cryptic. every faction should have an epic storyline and there are plenty to work with for all the Star Trek Factions.
LOL you joined in February? On release??? Sorry but anything you say about "all along" means nothing to me as you weren't even registered on the forums till the game went live..... Heck, were you even in Beta? All this talk about "how it was" from someone who wasn't even there..... WOW
Read the other threads for the history, and I appreciate Zodi for putting some backing to the state of game history and promises. Much respect there.
Actually, this is how I play all my characters.
I don't PvP, and the xp gains from doing regular quests is excessive, so I play only exploration missions. I don't even get the quests to DO the exploration missions.
Of course, this also means I don't get any new officers or fancy gear, or even exploration badges.
I wonder if I'll be able to do Diplomatic content... It's all missions, and might skew my xp...
If that's the truth then they need to fix the mistake, and 8 missions in 6 months is not going to do it. a mission a week for the next year mite do it, but how many people will we lose over that time period? Now putting season 2 on hold is not a good idea, but they need to change their resources just a little bit, for a little bit of time. right now I estimate that Cryptic is working 75 to 80% on feds, and 25 to 20 % on the klingons. if they switch that around for ONE month that would get them a start on fixing it. it would not fix it but it would get them a boost to get it done.
Thx Cpt. for the understanding.
I think Klingons deserve PvE as well but the constant whining is not helping matters. It is constant by the way, even though I understand the reasons for it, it still reminds me of mosquitos singing veruca salt's part.
Probably was a mistake to reduce the PvP exp without having an alternative method of levelling but I still seem to recall that it was wanted this way by the Klingon pvp community that is long since gone.
While Fed players are doing that... they wont be moaning as much about being bored at Endgame so Klingons can get some improvements. Regardless, holding back Season 2 would be suicidal. They have to at least try and release SOMETHING within the month.
Although seeing as how they have ALREADY delayed Season 2 far longer than it should be AND whats on Tribble isnt the FULL deal. Yeah, I suspect its already going to end up being delayed more unless Cryptic have managed to introduce no new bugs with the new test build thats coming tommorrow.
One month of solid work, would be a good change. I concur.
it doesn't matter when I joined. I wouldn't have a Klingon toon as I don't personaly care for them for me.
To each their own. Its almost Aug. and from Feburay to now it a good amount of time to see what the game is about and what is what. attack attack im not against Klingons at all. My fleet is on both sides of the game.
I help both sides. I tell it like it is. you can attack me but it changes nothing about the truth.
When I saw it was a PVP faction I said nope not for me. You want to be in that faction awesome. I have much respect for end game Klingon players. That changes nothing about what that Faction is a PVP Faction and Beta isn't what we are playing. we are Live. Deal with it. Attacking to prove a point is the actions of someone who has nothing left to make true points about. I hope you get all you ask for from cryptic.
I play FED. And once you hit cap there is absolutely nothing to do except PVP and exploration. The zerfests that are the STFs are just horrible.
Postponing Season 2 isn't a good idea. It will most likely turn a lot of people away from the game. Season 2 has what many of us desperately want and no one is willing to wat any longer. Remember when Season two was supposed to be released on July 15th? Now it is the 27th of July. 12 days late!
Season 2 is the most important update yet. It will be what keeps me in the game. If it is postponed I would not renew my sub.
I understand you want more klingon content. Wait for the next updates. I am sure cryptic will continue to make content for you. There is a lot of klingon content in Season 2 if you compare it with previous updates in my opinion.
Just my two cents.
Yeah, well the fact I pre-ordered lifetime subscribed off the fact that this is WHAT WAS PROMISED.... I have all the rights in the world to contest this argument. As for your analysis, I am going to make a new mini game where I count how many times you said "deal with it"
FYI - Season One was suppose to be "our" update. What happened there???
Development must have taken longer than expected.
The Star Trek Online Team doesn't have the same funding or the huge staff of people working for them like Blizzard has for WoW.
They are doing the best they can in the short amount of time they are given.
There are lots of times when I see the devs online and posting in the forum that they are still working late into the night for us. Sometimes I wonder if they even go home.
Development takes time! They are already working on Klingon stuff as stated by them.
I love star trek but I would never buy a lifetime subscription as you always get messed over.
I don't know who promised you anything but you should contact them and get all up in their face about it.
They have your money and are siting pretty while you complain on the forums and they don't even hear you.
Fine print is a real mother++++ and thats where they always get everyone. I do hope you get all you ask for from cryptic
Rational enough, thanks. I don't want Federation stuff slowed down. People are getting this whole Klingon concept a little tilted. I hope you and Zodi and others get all the stuff you want. I want the game to grow, I just see how they keep pulling the rug out on somethings and at somepoint, you gotta draw a line. Because it may be Klingons for now, but later, it's going to be bugs on the Fed side, or even no new content except what is sold in the C-Store even while your still paying a sub.... At some point, the line must be drawn.
This is that time. And I love Romulans, I don't want them postponed but do I want Romulans done right? Or do I want Romulans "Klingon'ed" in?
It has been said that the Romulans will be added after the Klingons have seen a lot of love!
Klingon content will be completely fleshed out before a new faction will be added.
The only way this might change is if the execs at Cryptic order the STO team to rush in the Romulans.
or they promise another faction in 2015.... lol
Fool me once, shame on me, fool me twice, shame on you.... and post about it
If they keep their word, and work at this pace I would say we will have romulans in about 5 years.
Darn you... you beat me to it.
As long as we survive 2012.
Just kidding but the movie was frightening in that regard.
Back to topic.
Five years gives them enough time for the Klingons.
As long as they keep the FED content coming I am happy.
Thank GOD I BOUGHT LIFETIME!!!! Whew.... long wait for a horse that won't come....
Side Note: The Cryptic Calender ends in July of 2010.... TRIBBLE the Mayan Calender, this one tells me we're %^&ed!
The shared missions can be played by Klingons as well. And as Kestrel has already posted, have different text for the KDF. I understand most people don't read the text, but, going off of that, the KDF have different, klingon specific, mission variations.
It's more than just 8 missions.
That keeps getting overlooked.
Just like, while everyone's talking about the Ablative Armor ... they keep overlooking the change to shield resistance.
Details keep getting buried. Must be because this is a pretty huge patch.