NO I'm suggesting to turn ur CP to EP NOT TO BUY THEM
How do you get CPs?
I thought you had to ...
buy them?
I'm confused.
On a slightly related note though ... there has been some discussion and mention that Starfleet Merits might eventually be worked into an exchange rate to allow you to make C-Store purchases with merits.
That's an idea I can get behind.
Energy Credits though ... that opens the door to third party sellers.
NO I'm suggesting to turn ur CP to EP NOT TO BUY THEM
No you are, Cryptic Points are bought with Cash (except the free ones) and you are suggesting to turn them into Energy Credits, so yes you are Suggesting to being able to have the ablitiy to buy Energy Credits with Cash via using Cryptic Points.
The last mmo i played you could sell your zen and buy in-game gold threw an auction house. This completely unbalanced everything in the game and ruined the economy. Players who had endless money to burn had the best EVERYTHING the game had to offer. Within a short few months their player base dropped like a rock.
I don;t want this game to turn into a: pay per month but pay to win type game. No thanks.
Second Life allowed for cash to cred and cred to cash transactions. Its not really an unreasonable idea.
true, but ingame cash was just used as a medium to pay for content made by other users and you can't make piles of it by doing simple things, you either made stuff or did a service to gain it, and the transfer rate to change back to normal money did tend to be more in favor to Linden Labs.
Second Life allowed for cash to cred and cred to cash transactions. Its not really an unreasonable idea.
Wrong kind of "game" for that since SL isn't a game as such anyway. That economy was designed around that from the start, STO is not and would be severely damaged by going that route.
While I do appreciate the feedback, I feel quite comfortable stating that this not something in the plan for the C-store right now.
Thanks,
Stormshade
Hi, Stormshade,
The idea that was being bounced around earlier (not in this thread) was to convert Merits (Starfleet or KDF) into C-points. Has there been any reply from the Finance or Marketing people as to if this can happen? Last I heard, dstahl was going to ask them about this.
I like the idea of Merits ---> C-Points. Not sure Cryptic's bean counters like it tho!
Merit is a much more scarce commodity than energy credits. Hence, a lot of people would rather pay cash and get it immediately than save for an item. So Cryptic's money people will be probably placated, depending on the exchange rate.
I might be for it just for that reason. If people can buy 1 million EC for $6 from a gold seller but takes a risk on being banned or suspended, I think Cryptic could easily beat them by letting people buy the EC without the risk. I don't need the money, but a new player wanting to buy a different ship than the one he chose first might want that service.
or make a way to get more EC or buy ship more easily
Here's a suggestion... go out and collect data samples in a sector that offers the highest tier ones available to you. Spend about an hour doing this. Then find out what the lowest price for each type is going for and go lower. How much lower is up to you. But make it where you are offering for the lowest price. People will buy out your stock fast. You'll pull in a small fortune.
ECs are not hard to get at all. You just have to be willing to do what it takes to get them.
Here's a suggestion... go out and collect data samples in a sector that offers the highest tier ones available to you. Spend about an hour doing this. Then find out what the lowest price for each type is going for and go lower. How much lower is up to you. But make it where you are offering for the lowest price. People will buy out your stock fast. You'll pull in a small fortune.
ECs are not hard to get at all. You just have to be willing to do what it takes to get them.
mm interesting but it's too much hassle and boring collecting data but yeah why not when u need money u do what u have to do
While I do appreciate the feedback, I feel quite comfortable stating that this not something in the plan for the C-store right now.
Thanks,
Stormshade
I would like to think that it never will be! I don't know of any game...well..maybe EQ2 and their exchange servers that support changing RL money into "gold." Besides...Energy credits? Really! Energy credits are the easiest currency to get in this game, and it isn't like its hard to get merits either. Keep the C-Store with cosmetics, skins, costumes, even "potions" for xp boost, and name changes, etc.
If you need money get out there and do your dailies, level up some alts, grind some patrols or whatever. It really isn't that hard to make money in this game. And PLEASE Cryptic never EVER allow ous to buy "gold" with real money.
mm interesting but it's too much hassle and boring collecting data but yeah why not when u need money u do what u have to do
There are Data Samples everywhere. Whenever you find them, stockpile them. Also, stockpile any loot you find that is not common and sell it off as well... But the most effortless method of getting EC is Data Sample sales. It just takes time...
When you're exploring a sector, pass up the "Explore Unknown System" options and just go for the data sample ones. If you exhaust everything, change instances... Within an hour you'll have a small fortune's worth of samples. No fighting. No corkscrewing up and down to get them in planetary systems...
I made over 1k per UNIT for some blue samples the other day. If I had just gone a little further out, I could have gotten green samples, which of course go for a lot more...
Just take the time to do it for a few minutes each time you play, and it will add up.
And be sure to price your samples low. You want them to sell, not just sit on the exchange. Don't be greedy.
3 Million Energy Credits = 250 C-Points...
1 Million Gold-Pressed Latinum = 250 C-Points...
Let us buy them at a vendor on ESD and Qo'nos
All the problems with the C-Store have just been solved and high ranking characters that are tired of grinding for merits and marks just to get the same old stuff to pimp out every ship in their stable have a new reason to actually play...
This is going to veer off-topic, but, in the interest of being open and transparent, I think it does need to be posted.
Data Samples.
The OP.
The OP is a rear admiral. The data samples the OP comes across the most, I'm guessing, are the ones in the B'Tran.
Those are also the lowest valued samples on the exchange. Because we all do our dailies and all have way more of these than anyone needs.
The data samples that are valuable are the bottlenecked ones. The green color icon ones you get from Hromi and Aefhir and places like that.
Well here's the problem with that.
CURRENTLY on Tribble, your data samples get level banded. So if this stays the same and goes live like this, RAs will no longer be able to get lower level data samples from lower level zones.
This will increase the disparity seen on the exchange. The bottlenecked samples that are already over priced ... will see a big rise in pricing. And will be farmed by low levels, usually alts. The data samples at RA will have their price bottom out.
And the OP can only farm those with his RA.
Until or unless he rolls an alt.
Just thought I'd share. This may all change in the next build on Tribble. Or not.
I remember people in NavyField who would buy the Premium Ships from their MT store, then turn around and vendor the ship and it's equipment in game, in order to get the credits or money or whatever to outfit lower tiered vessels.
Kinda sad really. Pretty much about as pathetic as buying gold from farmers in WoW.
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stop repeating the same message, id rather have it like convert EC to CP!
How do you get CPs?
I thought you had to ...
buy them?
I'm confused.
On a slightly related note though ... there has been some discussion and mention that Starfleet Merits might eventually be worked into an exchange rate to allow you to make C-Store purchases with merits.
That's an idea I can get behind.
Energy Credits though ... that opens the door to third party sellers.
No you are, Cryptic Points are bought with Cash (except the free ones) and you are suggesting to turn them into Energy Credits, so yes you are Suggesting to being able to have the ablitiy to buy Energy Credits with Cash via using Cryptic Points.
I don;t want this game to turn into a: pay per month but pay to win type game. No thanks.
In game credits are far too easy to come across for us to BUY C-Store Credits that are converted to ECs.
true, but ingame cash was just used as a medium to pay for content made by other users and you can't make piles of it by doing simple things, you either made stuff or did a service to gain it, and the transfer rate to change back to normal money did tend to be more in favor to Linden Labs.
Please do not compare a mmo game like STO to second life... They are not the same...
Thanks,
Stormshade
Deck 5? Yeah, I got another for the AIRLOCK !
Which tier/rank you at? Which ship you looking to buy? PM me. I might be able to help.
Wrong kind of "game" for that since SL isn't a game as such anyway. That economy was designed around that from the start, STO is not and would be severely damaged by going that route.
Hi, Stormshade,
The idea that was being bounced around earlier (not in this thread) was to convert Merits (Starfleet or KDF) into C-points. Has there been any reply from the Finance or Marketing people as to if this can happen? Last I heard, dstahl was going to ask them about this.
Thanks!
or make a way to get more EC or buy ship more easily
I also think that those who have subscribed longer should have a better conversion ratio, maybe tie it to veteran rewards.
But yes, it has to be that way around.
Thank you, that would kill the eco
Here's a suggestion... go out and collect data samples in a sector that offers the highest tier ones available to you. Spend about an hour doing this. Then find out what the lowest price for each type is going for and go lower. How much lower is up to you. But make it where you are offering for the lowest price. People will buy out your stock fast. You'll pull in a small fortune.
ECs are not hard to get at all. You just have to be willing to do what it takes to get them.
mm interesting but it's too much hassle and boring collecting data but yeah why not when u need money u do what u have to do
I would like to think that it never will be! I don't know of any game...well..maybe EQ2 and their exchange servers that support changing RL money into "gold." Besides...Energy credits? Really! Energy credits are the easiest currency to get in this game, and it isn't like its hard to get merits either. Keep the C-Store with cosmetics, skins, costumes, even "potions" for xp boost, and name changes, etc.
If you need money get out there and do your dailies, level up some alts, grind some patrols or whatever. It really isn't that hard to make money in this game. And PLEASE Cryptic never EVER allow ous to buy "gold" with real money.
There are Data Samples everywhere. Whenever you find them, stockpile them. Also, stockpile any loot you find that is not common and sell it off as well... But the most effortless method of getting EC is Data Sample sales. It just takes time...
When you're exploring a sector, pass up the "Explore Unknown System" options and just go for the data sample ones. If you exhaust everything, change instances... Within an hour you'll have a small fortune's worth of samples. No fighting. No corkscrewing up and down to get them in planetary systems...
I made over 1k per UNIT for some blue samples the other day. If I had just gone a little further out, I could have gotten green samples, which of course go for a lot more...
Just take the time to do it for a few minutes each time you play, and it will add up.
And be sure to price your samples low. You want them to sell, not just sit on the exchange. Don't be greedy.
1 Million Gold-Pressed Latinum = 250 C-Points...
Let us buy them at a vendor on ESD and Qo'nos
All the problems with the C-Store have just been solved and high ranking characters that are tired of grinding for merits and marks just to get the same old stuff to pimp out every ship in their stable have a new reason to actually play...
You're welcome Cryptic...
Data Samples.
The OP.
The OP is a rear admiral. The data samples the OP comes across the most, I'm guessing, are the ones in the B'Tran.
Those are also the lowest valued samples on the exchange. Because we all do our dailies and all have way more of these than anyone needs.
The data samples that are valuable are the bottlenecked ones. The green color icon ones you get from Hromi and Aefhir and places like that.
Well here's the problem with that.
CURRENTLY on Tribble, your data samples get level banded. So if this stays the same and goes live like this, RAs will no longer be able to get lower level data samples from lower level zones.
This will increase the disparity seen on the exchange. The bottlenecked samples that are already over priced ... will see a big rise in pricing. And will be farmed by low levels, usually alts. The data samples at RA will have their price bottom out.
And the OP can only farm those with his RA.
Until or unless he rolls an alt.
Just thought I'd share. This may all change in the next build on Tribble. Or not.
Kinda sad really. Pretty much about as pathetic as buying gold from farmers in WoW.