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My ship name is the U.S.S. TRIBBLE-Yu which I named after one of my best friends and Cryptic wants me to change it because some one probably reported it as a curse word. When in fact there are several people with that name in real life look it up in a serch engine and there will be several community sites that pop-up. Right now I am on restiction because of that name where it does not break any of their naming rules. The only one that it comes close to breaking is the first one "Be designed to impersonate a real life individual or entity" but as I am naming a ship and not a person it does not impersonate anyone. In my opinion if any one thinks that TRIBBLE Yu is a bad word they are just simply uncultured.

Please let me know what you think on this subject.

Ben@benni6869
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    0_o




    oh my ......





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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Well we do have someone at work with that name. Of course we all use nicknames when talking to him.

    Seriously though and not to be culturally insensitive but anyone that hass been in the US for more than a day will use a nickname with that name... just sayin'

    Blak
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Blakinik wrote:
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    Blak

    heh... your signature is funny :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Well, the naming policy says this:

    Incorporate vulgar, obscene, hateful, defamatory language or imagery.

    Now the forum policy on the same topic is more expanded:

    8. You may not use vulgar, harmful, harassing, fraudulent, threatening, abusive, libelous, defamatory, obscene, hateful, sexually explicit, racially/ethnically charged or otherwise objectionable language. Abbreviations, self censoring, and attempts to circumvent our censure software also violate these Guidelines. If your post contains a word that is censored by our software, you must remove that word or the post will be removed. If you feel that the software censor is acting in error, please contact us.

    *Underline is mine.

    So, if you apply the more expanded policy on profanity then your name, of a real person or not, can still be interpreted as trying to circumvent the profanity filter.. Especially since it sounds and is spelled similar to obvious profanity. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Benni6869 wrote:
    In my opinion if any one thinks that TRIBBLE Yu is a bad word they are just simply uncultured.

    On the contrary. A cultured person would realize how English speakers could take that name as an insulting phrase.

    That said, I personally have no problem with the name (or really anything else anyone chooses to name their ship or crew), but I can see how some others would. It sucks (in my opinion), but I guess Cryptic is just erring on the side of caution.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Benni6869 wrote:
    My ship name is the U.S.S. TRIBBLE-Yu which I named after one of my best friends and Cryptic wants me to change it because some one probably reported it as a curse word. When in fact there are several people with that name in real life look it up in a serch engine and there will be several community sites that pop-up. Right now I am on restiction because of that name where it does not break any of their naming rules. The only one that it comes close to breaking is the first one "Be designed to impersonate a real life individual or entity" but as I am naming a ship and not a person it does not impersonate anyone. In my opinion if any one thinks that TRIBBLE Yu is a bad word they are just simply uncultured.

    Please let me know what you think on this subject.

    Ben@benni6869

    I think I had the U.S.S. Azzrammer, the U.S.S. PorkchopExpress and the I.K.S. Da'Kock at one point... the trick is not to get reported :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Now the forum policy on the same topic is more expanded:

    8. You may not use vulgar, harmful, harassing, fraudulent, threatening, abusive, libelous, defamatory, obscene, hateful, sexually explicit, racially/ethnically charged or otherwise objectionable language. Abbreviations, self censoring, and attempts to circumvent our censure software also violate these Guidelines. If your post contains a word that is censored by our software, you must remove that word or the post will be removed. If you feel that the software censor is acting in error, please contact us.

    As you said it is the Forum policy and not the in-game policy but i do understand where you and cryptic are coming from, but it is a real name. What if I got my friend to play this game and wanted to use his real name I mean they could tell that it is his name by his credit card would cryptic say he can't use his real name? I am mostly mad because they put me on a 3 hour resrtiction from the game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Creovex wrote: »
    I think I had the U.S.S. Azzrammer, the U.S.S. PorkchopExpress and the I.K.S. Da'Kock at one point... the trick is not to get reported :D

    I think I was reported because some one got but-hurt because I kept killing him/her in PvP. lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    hey wasn't that the name of one of the twins in Austin Powers?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Creovex wrote: »
    I think I had the U.S.S. Azzrammer, the U.S.S. PorkchopExpress and the I.K.S. Da'Kock at one point... the trick is not to get reported :D

    Ummm... bet they are now :)

    Blak
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    yeah I think it was
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Cormoran wrote: »
    hey wasn't that the name of one of the twins in Austin Powers?

    yeah I think it was
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    On topic, I know a few researchers I work with that have funny sounding names if you read it in english, they sound totally different when you say it. Pwe Yuo is is one... Sounds like "Pay Ywow" when you when pronounced correctly. From Laos, kool person. Accept diversity, embrace it, and don't forget to vote " More Klingon Content" in the next poll...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    You want opinions on the use of childish names used in an obvious attempt to circumvate cryptics naming policy? I predict flames & moderator closure in short order..:rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Saxon-73 wrote:
    You want opinions on the use of childish names used in an obvious attempt to circumvate cryptics naming policy? I predict flames & moderator closure in short order..:rolleyes:

    Apperantly you havn't left your hometown and seen the world if you think that it is childish to name something after a friend
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Benni6869 wrote:
    Apperantly you havn't left your hometown and seen the world if you think that it is childish to name something after a friend

    If a name sound's like a curse word, and I can assure you the one being mentioned here DOES and I don't need to say what it sounds like, then it's against the naming policy and should've been common sense to NOT use.

    Then again; common sense isn't common anymore.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    USS Patience A and B

    Name came from the launch days when the servers were really screwy, One had to have alot of patience at that time to play.

    Glad its gotten way better since.:cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Umm OP, YOU asked for commentary on Cryptic's naming policy!!

    Where specifically in my post did I mention your 'ship' name as it relates to your 'friend'???

    So now I will...
    A cultured person would realize how English speakers could take that name as an insulting phrase.
      [1]Incorporate vulgar, obscene, hateful, defamatory language or imagery
    Apparently the OP isn't cultured enough to see that this violates this rule..
      [2]Be derogatory towards racial, ethnical, cultural background, or sexual orientation
    By using your 'friends' name to veil an attempt to violate rule 1, you have now also brought rule 2 into play..
    In that you have used his name in a fashion that is derogatory towards both his race, ethnical & cultural backgrounds.
    Benni6869 wrote:
    Apperantly you havn't left your hometown and seen the world if you think that it is childish to name something after a friend

    FAIL
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I also know someone named TRIBBLE-Yu, someone named TRIBBLE-Nhi Phuong and someone named Wei-Yu.

    These a real names. And if Cryptic is not willing to cater to an audience from all sorts of cultural backgrounds, they should not have released a game that is open to the world.

    ps. I saw the USS Hitler yesterday, so maybe Cryptic should be a little more worried about fixing their naming filter before going after real people's names.

    pps. Yes I am still bitter about the name "Anichent" being disallowed by the naming filter....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    It doesn't mater if the name used was a actual name or not. It is the fact that the name CAN be read as phonetically sounding vulgar in ENGLISH. Since the name can appear to be an attempt to get around the naming policy, it can be banned, rejected or whatnot. Wether or not you were using that name as a way to get around the naming policy or as you say as a tribute to a friend is immaterail. The fact that you can not put a sign on that name to explain to people that it is a person name is why it will get you into trouble regardless. Therefore, I would suggest just going with the policy and thinking about what the name sounds like in the future.

    Just as an aside, I do believe that your intial post is in violation of the forums TOS rule #19.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Anichent wrote: »
    I also know someone named TRIBBLE-Yu, someone named TRIBBLE-Nhi Phuong and someone named Wei-Yu.

    These a real names. And if Cryptic is not willing to cater to an audience from all sorts of cultural backgrounds, they should not have released a game that is open to the world.

    ps. I saw the USS Hitler yesterday, so maybe Cryptic should be a little more worried about fixing their naming filter before going after real people's names.

    Herein lies the grey area that exists around all 'naming' policies in MMO's..

    'TRIBBLE-Yu' in English vernacular can be interpreted as vulgar or profanity. And when used in that manner violates several rules.
    Just as you have interpreted the use of the name 'Hitler' as a reference to a infamous historical figure, can this not also be the name of someone's friend? I doubt that surname has been erased from existence. ( I am not in any way condoning the use of this name, as I agree it should be excluded by the naming filter. I am just using it as an example)

    They disallowed "Anichent", I agree thats pretty weak....but it is an ingame NPC.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Saxon-73 wrote:

    They disallowed "Anichent", I agree thats pretty weak....but it is an ingame NPC.

    But its a first name, and I had it first...... its like them disallowing James T., Katherine, Tom, Montgomery or Leonard... :(

    *hymph* I`m never gonna get over this lol.

    I still have yet to meet this infamous NPC though
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Gruug wrote: »
    It doesn't mater if the name used was a actual name or not. It is the fact that the name CAN be read as phonetically sounding vulgar in ENGLISH. Since the name can appear to be an attempt to get around the naming policy, it can be banned, rejected or whatnot. Wether or not you were using that name as a way to get around the naming policy or as you say as a tribute to a friend is immaterail. The fact that you can not put a sign on that name to explain to people that it is a person name is why it will get you into trouble regardless. Therefore, I would suggest just going with the policy and thinking about what the name sounds like in the future.

    Just as an aside, I do believe that your intial post is in violation of the forums TOS rule #19.

    OKay.....but what if it was his name? just hypothetically speaking. I'd be pretty mad if my name "sounded bad" in a different language so it was banned from me using it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Anichent wrote: »
    But its a first name, and I had it first...... its like them disallowing James T., Katherine, Tom, Montgomery or Leonard... :(

    *hymph* I`m never gonna get over this lol.

    I still have yet to meet this infamous NPC though

    North Wing of Memory Alpha (crafting sytem/planet) ;)

    And I feel your pain, your sig reminded me that I couldn't use the surname 'Garak' on my Cardassian Alt.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Gotta love this. People who think they are being so cool using words that sound like curse words and when they get caught they come on the forums and cry like babies. Probably drunk when they came up with the name and thought it would be funny to use it in game. Stop trying to be slick and follow the rules and you won't have any problems. That simple. Oh, and it wouldn't hurt to lay off the booze or whatever poseses you to do things like that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Scooter422 wrote:
    Gotta love this. People who think they are being so cool using words that sound like curse words and when they get caught they come on the forums and cry like babies. Probably drunk when they came up with the name and thought it would be funny to use it in game. Stop trying to be slick and follow the rules and you won't have any problems. That simple. Oh, and it wouldn't hurt to lay off the booze or whatever poseses you to do things like that.


    I totally agree!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Cormoran wrote: »
    hey wasn't that the name of one of the twins in Austin Powers?
    Benni6869 wrote:
    yeah I think it was

    No, it was not. The names of the twins from Austin Powers start with an "F" and are listed in the video since they are aparently bad words on the forums.. heh.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vj1SyWntdo4&feature=related
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    If that ship name is ok, then I should be able to make a ship whose name is Suek Mai B'olls
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    LotD wrote:
    If that ship name is ok, then I should be able to make a ship whose name is Suek Mai B'olls

    Only if the dedication plaque reads:

    "Respect my authoritah!"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Catulla wrote:
    I totally agree!!

    Spot on. Except the people who do this are more probably not drunk, just very young. I used to do similar stuff... when I was 12.
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