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Poll: Should a UGC system be added to STO?

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
There has been various discussion off and on since the forums have launched about UGC(user generated content), and there are those who feel it would improve the game while there are others who feel it would not. So just for kicks, lets have an unofficial poll:

Should a UGC system be added to STO?

There are only two choices, so pick the one you agree with the most and then share your thoughts, conditions, or concerns if you would like to do so.

PS: for anyone who is not familiar with the term "user generated content", it refers to missions created by players that can be played by other players.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    woohoo, I got the 1st vote, in favor:D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I don't do polls, the last poll that I did the thing that I voted for and won ended up coming to the C-store. :D lol kidding

    I say yes it should be added because of the talent that the fan base has, and the fact that it will help with the content issue.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
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    I'm still on the fence with this one....having been jaded by the CoH Architect fiasco.



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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
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    I'm still on the fence with this one....having been jaded by the CoH Architect fiasco.

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    I cant blame you for that. Fortunately STO has the benefit of learning of their mistakes.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I have and will say yes, I just question how long it will take for CBS to approve of the stuff that comes back out. Considering the finger gets pointed every time it can to blame something taking too long or why something has to be taken out or cant be done etc I think its foolish to think they wont have their fingers in this too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Yes, but mostly for ship interiors customization/ fleet starbases and shipboard missions.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I have and will say yes, I just question how long it will take for CBS to approve of the stuff that comes back out. Considering the finger gets pointed every time it can to blame something taking too long or why something has to be taken out or cant be done etc I think its foolish to think they wont have their fingers in this too.

    I'm not so sure about that. I have no doubt they would have to approve the system being added to the game in the first place, mind you. But SWG has a UGC system and LA doesnt have to approve every mission that is created. So again, I'm just not sure how that would work.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    DStahl said in a recent interview that the devs are very interested in developing a UGC system, and also a rating system so the rest of us can approve/disapprove of whatever is created. I can only hope there will also be some mechanism to completely remove anything that is truly awful, such as Spock "coming out" or Picard becoming a trannie. Perhaps a player-based "Board of Approval" could be created to review UGC before it's allowed onto Holodeck, or something along these lines.

    This avenue would open up fantastic opportunities for storytelling and roleplay if implemented properly, so I hope this gets some serious attention soon!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I'm not so sure about that. I have no doubt they would have to approve the system being added to the game in the first place, mind you. But SWG has a UGC system and LA doesnt have to approve every mission that is created. So again, I'm just not sure how that would work.

    I just have the whole thought that people could create whatever they want, and could, conceviably, creat "bad" things, and if you can invite people to that, then the people hanging over their shoulder telling them what they can and cant add and what cant be in the game anymore, would have issue with that lol
    Eryxx wrote: »
    DStahl said in a recent interview that the devs are very interested in developing a UGC system, and also a rating system so the rest of us can approve/disapprove of whatever is created. I can only hope there will also be some mechanism to completely remove anything that is truly awful, such as Spock "coming out" or Picard becoming a trannie. Perhaps a player-based "Board of Approval" could be created to review UGC before it's allowed onto Holodeck, or something along these lines.

    This avenue would open up fantastic opportunities for storytelling and roleplay if implemented properly, so I hope this gets some serious attention soon!

    eh, I dont like the idea ofa "board of approval" too "council" like to me, and we know how well THAT went over
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Voted Yes.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Eryxx wrote: »
    Perhaps a player-based "Board of Approval" could be created to review UGC before it's allowed onto Holodeck, or something along these lines.

    Maybe you haven't been on these boards that long, but let me tell you, 'Player Boards' don't go over too well around these parts. Mainly because anybody who isn't chosen to be on it is enraged at the slight and goes ballistic.

    To Nagus: Maybe you should have made the question more explicitly about User Generated Mission Content, since we've already got one 'Yes' vote based on someone wanting Fleet Starbases and customizable interiors?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I cannot agree. No matter how much talent, and good people there are, once the farm factor finds a way to manipulates a scenario editor, it takes over.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Maybe you haven't been on these boards that long, but let me tell you, 'Player Boards' don't go over too well around these parts. Mainly because anybody who isn't chosen to be on it is enraged at the slight and goes ballistic.

    To Nagus: Maybe you should have made the question more explicitly about User Generated Mission Content, since we've already got one 'Yes' vote based on someone wanting Fleet Starbases and customizable interiors?

    Yeah, try plugging "player Council" into search, see if that works, or better yet, ill ask here, for the people here to provide links of that particulat firestorm.
    I cannot agree. No matter how much talent, and good people there are, once the farm factor finds a way to manipulates a scenario editor, it takes over.

    nvm I was wrong lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I vote no. UGC will prevent this game from going F2P due to MTs and the impact that CPs have on the CS.

    So I say NFW to UGC. Besides there's bigger fish to fry like RSP, PVP, and ESD.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    superchum wrote: »
    I vote no. UGC will prevent this game from going F2P due to MTs and the impact that CPs have on the CS.

    So I say NFW to UGC. Besides there's bigger fish to fry like RSP, PVP, and ESD.

    The letters made my brain explode
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    definatly.

    if we get stuff like holodecks, we can make content for those.
    interiors, small side missions for those.

    oh the possibilitys.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Hell *insert F word* NO

    UGC is something for non mmo games I hate it in an mmo and few thing will break a game, but that will 100% surely ruin the game for me.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I voted yes.

    I think its a fantastic idea, and Holodeck programs provide for the perfect medium to deliver this UGC. I don't believe they should give experience or any rare drops etc. They should just be there for the community's enjoyment.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Voted No.

    Why? That would be because I think it's a waste of effort that would be better spent elsewhere.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    One should think work on core game content, and the new faction(s) would push such a luxury and clearly auxiliary feature down on the priority list, but it's going to be prioritized beyond it's real use and impact no doubt, due to popular demand or whatever rationale that can be conjured up for the occasion.

    I voted against, of course. I want real content first, and more real content after. When there is nothing else left to do, this might be a suitable project. But there is always something to do. So that was a fake proposition. ;)

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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    If there is one community with enough fans and backround...i think it would be the sto community cause of the great ip. i think it would be awesome!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Sivar wrote: »
    Voted No.

    Why? That would be because I think it's a waste of effort that would be better spent elsewhere.

    That to indeed


    also if they ever dare to add it (and hell will know it for my icy fury will freeze it when I still stand on Earth) they better make it give you nothing at all not even an accolade just nothing. For I will declare open war if they do *blows his horn*
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Liandras wrote:
    also if they ever dare to add it

    Uh ... I hate to be the messenger here ... but there's been posts, by Coderanger I believe, that they are indeed working on it. Both for their new up and coming MMORPG project, and for use in their current games Champions and Star Trek.

    The amount of work being done for this (which according to dev posts is quite a bit) means they will be adding it.

    In short, they dare. Oh they dare to add it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    i want it but it MUST be done right. this is not something to mess up or do half heartedly.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I don't see why not. I would be interested to see what people take the time to make, and see their imagination and creativity at work. Perhaps our creations can give the devs inspiration for new ideas to. Ya never know.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    superchum wrote: »
    Uh ... I hate to be the messenger here ... but there's been posts, by Coderanger I believe, that they are indeed working on it. Both for their new up and coming MMORPG project, and for use in their current games Champions and Star Trek.

    The amount of work being done for this (which according to dev posts is quite a bit) means they will be adding it.

    In short, they dare. Oh they dare to add it.

    *prepares his war declaration forms*

    Than I guess my preparation for war pays off once again (points to sig)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Liandras wrote:
    Hell *insert F word* NO

    UGC is something for non mmo games I hate it in an mmo and few thing will break a game, but that will 100% surely ruin the game for me.

    The great thing is you have something called "free will" which means that even when UGC is added no one will make you do it :o
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    The great thing is you have something called "free will" which means that even when UGC is added no one will make you do it :o

    I free they will for they will add rewards or acolades for it which means there is a need to do them, if they give zero rewards for it I *very big* might agree with it, but above all I ma big no for it so it will be a war when it comes.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Sivar wrote: »
    Voted No.

    Why? That would be because I think it's a waste of effort that would be better spent elsewhere.

    I could almost agree with that, if it were true. Unfortunately, Cryptic simply doesnt have the resources to develop equal faction specific content for two factions, let alone 3 or 4 if Roms or Cards are ever added. That being the case, UGC is the only way non-Fed factions will ever truly see their stories developed besides the few episodes Cryptic is able to make for them on the side.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I don't see a problem with it being added but frankly I'm not expecting the best when it's released. I expect mostly junk missions that I certainly won't be interested in.

    For this to really add to the game the Devs or GMs need to review the best stories and add them to the universe as official content. As it stands now, they don't have enough staff to fix damn underground anomalies much less review thousands of player made stories. I guess we'll see...
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