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http://suricatasblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/starbase.jpg

Quite obviously, this station is made from parts already seen throughout STO. The saucer and body are similar to many of the starbases, including Sierra station, already in game. The bottom of the saucer area, where there is an internal drydock area, is used in the center of those flying saucer stations around Earth. We've of course seen the solar panels shown in this picture in multiple parts of the game.

Why didn't you just take those pieces, slap this model together, and make it HUGE... and call it Starbase 001? We would've accepted it. It follows the design lineage of Federation Starbases. It matches all of the other Federation Starbases in the game.

Instead, we get that horrible thing floating over earth that looks like a Klingon or Romulan station that got a blue glowy paint job.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I prefer that version over the one we have ingame, but I doubt it'll change
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    AdmGillis wrote: »
    http://suricatasblog.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/starbase.jpg

    Quite obviously, this station is made from parts already seen throughout STO. The saucer and body are similar to many of the starbases, including Sierra station, already in game. The bottom of the saucer area, where there is an internal drydock area, is used in the center of those flying saucer stations around Earth. We've of course seen the solar panels shown in this picture in multiple parts of the game.

    Why didn't you just take those pieces, slap this model together, and make it HUGE... and call it Starbase 001? We would've accepted it. It follows the design lineage of Federation Starbases. It matches all of the other Federation Starbases in the game.

    Instead, we get that horrible thing floating over earth that looks like a Klingon or Romulan station that got a blue glowy paint job.

    That is a starbase.

    I blew most of it up with my Klingon. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I'm pretty sure this is the concept art for the standard starbase we see throughout the game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    That is the default federation starbase concept art we used to create our starbases and you do see these throughout the game.

    It was an art decision to create something different and new for earth spacedock.

    I'd personally like to see a slightly different take on it since I'm still in love with this:

    dStahl's favorite Fed Station Design
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »

    I'd personally like to see a slightly different take on it since I'm still in love with this:

    dStahl's favorite Fed Station Design

    That's my fave too, also the Earth Starbase ingame is too small for me, I was expecting something massive, could we have mammoth starbases in future.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    May well be the concept art for Starbase 24?

    http://stowiki.org/wiki/File:Starbase_24.jpg
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    If you are in love with that design, Stahl, and you want to take a crack at it, I don't think anyone in the community would mind.

    I, and many others, just don't find that the current Earth starbase is a proper update in the design lineage we've seen in Star Trek. Especially since the original Earth Spacedock has been an icon throughout most of the series, and is hinted at in Legacy(even though not canon) to have been built around the time of the founding of the Federation.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »

    I'd personally like to see a slightly different take on it since I'm still in love with this:

    dStahl's favorite Fed Station Design

    Maybe that starbase has been moved to one of the other planets in the solar system
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    That is the default federation starbase concept art we used to create our starbases and you do see these throughout the game.

    It was an art decision to create something different and new for earth spacedock.

    I'd personally like to see a slightly different take on it since I'm still in love with this:

    dStahl's favorite Fed Station Design

    that one is awesome. ( only problem is size, but they do have star bases that look like that in TNG but are a lot bigger so they could fit the galaxy )
    AdmGillis wrote: »
    If you are in love with that design, Stahl, and you want to take a crack at it, I don't think anyone in the community would mind.

    I, and many others, just don't find that the current Earth starbase is a proper update in the design lineage we've seen in Star Trek. Especially since the original Earth Spacedock has been an icon throughout most of the series, and is hinted at in Legacy(even though not canon) to have been built around the time of the founding of the Federation.

    the current one reminds me of the Justice league Watchtower ( watch tower 2 )
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I always saw the Federation Starbase as being an icon. That anywhere in the galaxy you found one of these starbases, you knew you were safe.

    It was an icon that stood for centuries. I don't understand why in the last 30 years they suddenly decided to leave from this concept.

    I'd understand redesigning and updating other starbases for defenses, but if there's one starbase you leave alone for the sake of being a landmark/icon, it is Earth Starbase.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    That is the default federation starbase concept art we used to create our starbases and you do see these throughout the game.

    It was an art decision to create something different and new for earth spacedock.

    I'd personally like to see a slightly different take on it since I'm still in love with this:

    dStahl's favorite Fed Station Design

    Make a massive in-game raid to destroy the old Sol station.

    Then, have Feds do a massive community resource gathering project to unlock the "new" station you linked (from the movies and TNG show).

    Treat it like people did "The Sleeper" raid in Everquest. It was a massive raid that literally served as the most challenging content for a long time. People still have fond memories of the server-changing event.

    Coincide with playerbase-created starbases and you'd have a Natural 20 on your hands. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    That is the default federation starbase concept art we used to create our starbases and you do see these throughout the game.

    It was an art decision to create something different and new for earth spacedock.

    I'd personally like to see a slightly different take on it since I'm still in love with this:

    dStahl's favorite Fed Station Design

    i totally agree
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Make a massive in-game raid to destroy the old Sol station.

    Then, have Feds do a massive community resource gathering project to unlock the "new" station you linked (from the movies and TNG show).

    Treat it like people did "The Sleeper" raid in Everquest. It was a massive raid that literally served as the most challenging content for a long time. People still have fond memories of the server-changing event.

    Coincide with playerbase-created starbases and you'd have a Natural 20 on your hands. :D

    what a great idea! devs, please give this concept a chance... or, as captain picard would say:
    "MAKE IT SO!"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    what a great idea! devs, please give this concept a chance... or, as captain picard would say:
    "MAKE IT SO!"

    It could be our first big ingame event
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    That is the default federation starbase concept art we used to create our starbases and you do see these throughout the game.

    It was an art decision to create something different and new for earth spacedock.

    I'd personally like to see a slightly different take on it since I'm still in love with this:

    dStahl's favorite Fed Station Design

    mine too, id love to see that one in game
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    That is the default federation starbase concept art we used to create our starbases and you do see these throughout the game.

    It was an art decision to create something different and new for earth spacedock.

    I'd personally like to see a slightly different take on it since I'm still in love with this:

    dStahl's favorite Fed Station Design

    I think the biggest difference one will notice when comparing this screen to the current Sol system - is the lack of shadows in game. Earth looks perfectly lit from almost every angle, which shouldn't be the case - maybe you can give that a thought as well in case you decide to polish Sol.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    /signed for great justice.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    That is the default federation starbase concept art we used to create our starbases and you do see these throughout the game.

    It was an art decision to create something different and new for earth spacedock.

    I'd personally like to see a slightly different take on it since I'm still in love with this:

    dStahl's favorite Fed Station Design
    My favorite, too.

    How about this:
    Big Klingon/Borg/Breen/Whatever Assault on Sol. PvP or Fleet Action, or a special event. Sol's Starbase is destroyed. A new one has to be build, or an old one has to be moved. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Make a massive in-game raid to destroy the old Sol station.

    Then, have Feds do a massive community resource gathering project to unlock the "new" station you linked (from the movies and TNG show).

    Treat it like people did "The Sleeper" raid in Everquest. It was a massive raid that literally served as the most challenging content for a long time. People still have fond memories of the server-changing event.

    Coincide with playerbase-created starbases and you'd have a Natural 20 on your hands. :D


    Or we can just have Wesley Crusher blow it up.

    In all seriousness though, I'm not going to be bothered if the starbase stays the same. If it's updated, I don't think I'll have a problem with that, either. What Darren suggested would make a fun event to replace the starbase.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Make a massive in-game raid to destroy the old Sol station.

    Then, have Feds do a massive community resource gathering project to unlock the "new" station you linked (from the movies and TNG show).

    Treat it like people did "The Sleeper" raid in Everquest. It was a massive raid that literally served as the most challenging content for a long time. People still have fond memories of the server-changing event.

    Coincide with playerbase-created starbases and you'd have a Natural 20 on your hands. :D

    Another excellent suggestion Darren! This would be epic and a whole lot of that F-word the devs like to say all the time... Fun!!! Alright devs, get crackin on this.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    That is the default federation starbase concept art we used to create our starbases and you do see these throughout the game.

    It was an art decision to create something different and new for earth spacedock.

    I'd personally like to see a slightly different take on it since I'm still in love with this:

    dStahl's favorite Fed Station Design

    That is what I personally call the correct way to portray a starfleet station. The first time I saw Earth Space dock in Beta was a big WTF moment.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    That is the default federation starbase concept art we used to create our starbases and you do see these throughout the game.

    It was an art decision to create something different and new for earth spacedock.

    I'd personally like to see a slightly different take on it since I'm still in love with this:

    dStahl's favorite Fed Station Design

    Definitly my favourite Starbase design, too.
    I loved "A Final Unity" as one could dock inside one of those.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Also dStahl, one of the loading screens shows the inside of a starbase docking area (it was even animated during beta). When are we going to see that area?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    That was a picture of Star Fleet Headquarters.

    I agree....eventualy i think star fleet headquarters should be put into the game...

    Maybe some of the shipyards too...like the one for Mars where the M-8 computer system was experiemnted with or maybe the JUpiter Mining colony.

    I mean its nothing personal but the one right now just seams a bit cluttered..
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    2010 SOTL Closeup – Robert Wilde– “We Come In Peace For All Mankind”

    Finished version is my current Desktop.
    Would be so awesome if Cryptic could hire some of that old time Trek creative talent for some new ingame designs.
    It would be automatically canon and fantastic! :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I'm hoping one day we can fly in and dock at the starbase like they did in Elite game.

    One other question what about spinning starbases ? and maybe have it orbiting around earth ? Unless of course you wil do this when you make the solar system :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    That is the default federation starbase concept art we used to create our starbases and you do see these throughout the game.

    It was an art decision to create something different and new for earth spacedock.

    I'd personally like to see a slightly different take on it since I'm still in love with this:

    dStahl's favorite Fed Station Design

    I would love to see that Starbase in game.

    I would also love to see the Watchtower class starbases in game as well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    That is the default federation starbase concept art we used to create our starbases and you do see these throughout the game.

    It was an art decision to create something different and new for earth spacedock.

    I'd personally like to see a slightly different take on it since I'm still in love with this:

    dStahl's favorite Fed Station Design

    That one is also my favourite Starbase design and I would love to see it in-game.

    Also I agree. Dstahl maybe you should go to bed man, If I'm right it's really late over there and we don't want you falling asleep at your desk.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I'm hoping one day we can fly in and dock at the starbase like they did in Elite game.

    One other question what about spinning starbases ? and maybe have it orbiting around earth ? Unless of course you wil do this when you make the solar system :D

    Even tho I loved the Stations in Elite (even made a model of a Coriolis Station too heh), but the concept of rotating stations that spinf to produce gravity isn't needed when there are gravity plating generators, unless you mean something else.

    Also would love to see the classic SB1 design used again with the internal ship docking area as well to fly in :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    I would love to open fire on that base with my Klingon. I like the mushroom starbases better than the one we have now. I would like to see this starbase over the one thats there now.
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