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A Plea to pug feds....

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited May 2010 in PvP Gameplay
Please learn where your heal buttons are....and use them, please...Its incredibly sad when i enter a pug on the rare occasion and i do the most healing as a tac officer in an escort...especially when there is an engineer in a cruiser in the same group....im not trying to be a TRIBBLE by saying this, i am genereally trying to help. The biggest difference between successful Fed pvp groups and fail ones. Is the cooperative healing and assists. Don't get frustrated pugs. Just step up your game. Por favor.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    If players would play their role things would be easier. Also not all player want to help and that is sad. I wish more player would team because sometimes you get players who rush in and lost it for all of us.

    I hear you and agree.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    i feel u mate. to many have been the times i found myself top damage and top healing. i dont mind the damage, but when im top healing with around 50k im unhappy.

    for that reason i started out a cruiser. people saying u can not heal in this game, people saying you NEED RSP, i say, it is very rare i use my RSP. and i have won matches on my own. just by continualy heal my teammates.

    btw it is even rare that u get a thank you for keeping a team mate alive through impossible odds.

    for me on a cruiser i get the biggest kick out of being fired upon by multiple targets while 2 blue beams and a green beem is coming from me aimed at my team. makes me feel like i'm god.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I do not usually take the time to say thank you but do appreciate it. thanks to all cruisers.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    champ7442 wrote: »
    I do not usually take the time to say thank you but do appreciate it. thanks to all cruisers.

    u would be amazed as to how far a thank you goes.

    also to the op. to many matches i enter where everyone is just flying solo, not capping any points, not even inviting eachother. just mindlesly zoom to wherever the action is and keep zooming there. very frustrating where u are the only one trying to cap and hold a point. even so, spending most of my time at the points, and thus seeing very little action, many are the times i still end up top damage and it leaves me wondering what the frak my teammates have been doing all that time.

    all i'm saying is that u should not expect people to heal when they cant even be bothered to invite a team or to even more simply request to join team. it has come so far that i no linger invite people to create teams. not on my tac. on my cruiser its a dif story.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Xigent wrote:
    Please learn where your heal buttons are....and use them, please...Its incredibly sad when i enter a pug on the rare occasion and i do the most healing as a tac officer in an escort...especially when there is an engineer in a cruiser in the same group....im not trying to be a TRIBBLE by saying this, i am genereally trying to help. The biggest difference between successful Fed pvp groups and fail ones. Is the cooperative healing and assists. Don't get frustrated pugs. Just step up your game. Por favor.

    been there seen it done it, could not agree more, playing in the lower pvp tiers if i was in a grp that took a chance showed some truest and healed each other we won, if not we lost. tho in the lower tiers you can understand it a bit, in t5 it is just sad.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Yes, please, fed pugs, do this, especially hull heals. It makes the damage numbers on my little Pixiekiller so much better when you do this.

    Whatever you do, don't focus fire on him. He gets very sad when he tries to breath cold empty space when you do that. And RSP makes him angry too, so angry that I just have to hit the tab key to shut him up.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    As a Sci/Cruiser I was greedy with my healing at the start. I think my reluctance initially came from being fairly certain that I wasn't going to get the favor returned. As I've learned a little more about PvP though I'm trying to buck that trend by throwing out all the healing and support I can. I even swapped out my second RSP for another Eng Team II and my Tractor Beam had to go for my first Hazard Emitter. I'm still working on position and situational awareness and I'm really becoming annoyed with that 1 second left on ETII cool down or watching someone hold their own for 39.9 km only to see them pop when I reach 10.1 km.

    As a BoP I'll throw my little Eng Team and Sci Team around like it's nothing and still feel fairly confident that I can Evasive my way out to Battle Cloak.

    Anyway, I too have failed to thank people as much as I should. I really really do appreciate it though.

    <3<3 all
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    If you guys don't like going against PUGs, then come up with a better suggestion than complaining about how bad players are.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    LoL. What?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    As a escort players I have noticed this... I normaly run and gun... 2 Emergency powers to Engines and I keep moving... I don't run a Eng team cause with my skill point spend for DPS its pathetic I may as well have another get out a dodge button.

    I have noticed this though... if I have a space whale give me a life line or a couple heals... I'll circle him and Escort him so to speak annd bang They keep doing it. ;) I know when I play my Cruiser alt its anoying to use an extend only to have someone jet off.

    It is however very frustrating to run around a group and destroy 2 or 3 incoming and have to use my hazard Em (My only hull heal) on them... you would think they would be embaressed to get the HZ chucked on em by the escort that just killed everyone that wanted some space whale meat... then on the next wave I'll see them hitting their own eng teams when they hit 70% hull.

    The last couple of pug matches I announced that if they give me a few heals no incoming will live... feels a bit cocky, but nothing did (live that is)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Azurian wrote: »
    If you guys don't like going against PUGs, then come up with a better suggestion than complaining about how bad players are.

    i thought the entire purpose of this message was to suggest people to learn how to heal and to heal more often...if you had actually read that instead of just being a troll you would know it.


    To the poster above me...I can tell you this...we do alot of organized pvp in my fleet as most people on these forums know. One of the main elements to our success is the ability for everyone on the team to throw heals on one another. It doesnt matter where they come from or who they are throw on as long as we all stay alive...and when you win as many 15-0 matches as we do...i would say it works pretty well.

    Also you should have sufficient Science and Engineering Skills allotted so that your heals should be at least a little significant, Not only that but the Heal abilities also offer some kind of resistance as well so they are very VERY useful. ie - Sci Team gives 30-50% shield resistance, Eng Team and HazEmitters give hull resistance....and they stack...i dont see why anyone wouldnt want these kinds of abilities in a pvp situation since most pvp fights are about 30% damage and 70% survivability.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Xigent wrote:
    i thought the entire purpose of this message was to suggest people to learn how to heal and to heal more often...if you had actually read that instead of just being a troll you would know it.


    To the poster above me...I can tell you this...we do alot of organized pvp in my fleet as most people on these forums know. One of the main elements to our success is the ability for everyone on the team to throw heals on one another. It doesnt matter where they come from or who they are throw on as long as we all stay alive...and when you win as many 15-0 matches as we do...i would say it works pretty well.

    Also you should have sufficient Science and Engineering Skills allotted so that your heals should be at least a little significant, Not only that but the Heal abilities also offer some kind of resistance as well so they are very VERY useful. ie - Sci Team gives 30-50% shield resistance, Eng Team and HazEmitters give hull resistance....and they stack...i dont see why anyone wouldnt want these kinds of abilities in a pvp situation since most pvp fights are about 30% damage and 70% survivability.

    scrubs just dont seem to grasp this little fact. they all think they can destroy fleets on their own. heals is for themselves... if they dont forget about them/get nuked by someone like ... well like me for instance. seriously the things im hearing these days in pvp are absurd. i had a guy complain to me yesterday that cloak = cheat. i was like WTF?? cloak? im fed, i dont cloak. so i figured he must have meant me jamming his sensors, but then again, he did that to me to. so i was realy wondering what he meant. im thinking he just didnt like getting nuked the way he was being nuked. instead of just asking how he could possibly beat me, it was clear that this was his goal. he kept full impulsing straight for me, hoping all my buffs would be on cooldown. ah well as much as we keep saying L2P people we are saying it to just dont learn or dont whant to. so they keep qq'ing
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Are you the guy who was ripping on my tier 4 science guy for not having ES?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    If you dont like pugs, make a group. Not all science vessels are set up to heal, or are interested in healing. The issue is, that you dont know what your going to get when you enter a pug. Get 5 poeple together and join that way if you are going to sit and whine.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    You are wasting your time over the few other MMO's I have played and learned. That in pugs most people do not care about winning or losing especially when you get a reward for losing or winning. Most of the time if you try to help someone in tells by giving advice you usually get response like I KNOW how to play nub or something else because most people canst stand some advice for some reason. So You are better off just owning them and being on you're way.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I'm gonna give this thread the picard seal of approval
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I'm gonna give this thread the picard seal of approval
    Lol thats good.
    I guess its hard to complain much about the pug match... I find them fun, never quite know what your going to get. I have been teamed with some great people... and as long as everyone is having fun I guess it should be good by me. ;)

    [I must have been crabby when I added my semi rant lol]
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    pff i realy dont think pugs are all that fun. in cap and hold they play the map like its an arena. i sit out most of the matches on my own on enemy points trying to take them. i usualy dont get into fights all that often because im the only one capping points.

    ive been called a cheater for cloaking, im a fed in a tac escort!!!

    realy people should L2P the game is not about who can do most damage on a cap and hold, the mission is to make the other teams number go down from 1200 to 0. besides, when im in the map u will never be top damage even if i see only 4 fights on average in such maps. u know i rule you all.
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