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It seems people want the Excelsior most of all..

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Alas, Cryptic know this too.
So how do you think it'll be added? 1000 points in the c-store?
Perhaps if you get 2 "friends" to buy a lifetime sub.
New retail promotional item?

Discuss.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I imagine it will be simply a skin in the C-Store. I can't believe they had to actually have us vote on this ship to appear.... it should have been a no brainer.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    hopefully something like "gain 2000 accolade points" and you unlock it.. or something.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I really would like to see it be unlocked in-game somehow. It would give me a goal to work towards. Have it appear in the C-store or a RAF reward would be extremely disappointing to me, and I probably would have to go without it then.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Should not the question be where rather than how?
    As in which tier will the ship be?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I am guessing a TIer 3 cruiser. However there was an episode with the U.S.S. Lakota and the Defiant fighting each other in DS9, and they seemed to be on the same footing, so maybe a Tier 4?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    t5, so they can milk the maximum amount from it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    t5, so they can milk the maximum amount from it.

    I would love to be able to use it at Tier 5, but not as a C-store item.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    captbavo wrote: »
    I would love to be able to use it at Tier 5, but not as a C-store item.

    As would I. It would be great if you could earn it in-game.
    But the realist in me tells me it's going to be a c-store item. If we're lucky.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I have actually posted this idea before of a mission that involves rescuing an old Excelsior-class that has been missing for decades. During the mission you have to figure out what happened to the crew, get the ship operational, and maybe defend boarding parties(klingons, borg, whatever) during the process. At the end, the ship is recovered and added to your fleet roster. It could be a tougher mission, maybe requiring a group. Just an idea I had on it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I would love something like that, not just buying a new ship in-game or the c-store or having to do a freaking STF but special missions to earn new ships, items, boffs, etc (a mission requiring a group doesn't necesarrily have to be an STF)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    captbavo wrote: »
    I have actually posted this idea before of a mission that involves rescuing an old Excelsior-class that has been missing for decades. During the mission you have to figure out what happened to the crew, get the ship operational, and maybe defend boarding parties(klingons, borg, whatever) during the process. At the end, the ship is recovered and added to your fleet roster. It could be a tougher mission, maybe requiring a group. Just an idea I had on it.

    And a very good idea! That would be a very nice "reward" for completing the mission! See, it's cool ideas like this that are missing from the game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    As it is now, it takes a total of 3396 points to buy everything in the C-store. ( granted you mite not buy the name change. ) and that comes out $43.75. ( minus 6.25 dollars if you got 500 points from the game ) this is what we have now. which it will go up over time. what i want to know is why do they need the extra income? I want them to come out and tell us. ( I know there are costs, but isn't that what the 15 bucks is for. what I want to know is why should I support the C-store, is it the reason we are getting patches faster then normal, if not what does it support? )
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    In my view, they need the extra income because they simply don't expect this game to last.
    Making the game have lasting appeal would be too much like hard work, so the people in charge like the ex-SOE/SWG staff that they are have decided to make as much money as possible before STO dies.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    In my view, they need the extra income because they simply don't expect this game to last.
    Making the game have lasting appeal would be too much like hard work, so the people in charge like the ex-SOE/SWG staff that they are have decided to make as much money as possible before STO dies.

    Gah that's a pessimistic view, my guess is royalties to CBS, vacations for the CEOs at Atari, or food for the interns. :D:D:D:D ( also the pessimistic thing was a joke )
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Chat wrote:
    Should not the question be where rather than how?
    As in which tier will the ship be?

    It should be a tier 5 ship, just like the galaxy class should have been, dont know why they made the galaxy a T4 ship. Doesnt make sense.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    tyyy wrote: »
    It should be a tier 5 ship, just like the galaxy class should have been, dont know why they made the galaxy a T4 ship. Doesnt make sense.
    Because the Sovereign is the ship created to replace the Galaxy maybe?

    So Excelsior should be at what tier now?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Chat wrote:
    Because the Sovereign is the ship created to replace the Galaxy maybe?

    So Excelsior should be at what tier now?

    The Sovereign was never meant to replace the Galaxy, the Sovereign is simply a more war oriented cruiser.
    But even then Galaxys dominated in the Dominion War's front lines.

    At this point canon is out the window and plummeting to the ground while Cryptic screams "UNLIIIIMITED POWER!" anyway so eh.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Chat wrote:
    Because the Sovereign is the ship created to replace the Galaxy maybe?

    So Excelsior should be at what tier now?

    As I mentioned before, you see a refitted Excelsior going head to head with the U.S.S. Defiant, which with its battle cloak and legendary officers, would make it fit in at least Tier 4, and I dont think Tier 5 is that big of a stretch.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    The Sovereign was never meant to replace the Galaxy, the Sovereign is simply a more war oriented cruiser.
    But even then Galaxys dominated in the Dominion War's front lines.

    At this point canon is out the window and plummeting to the ground while Cryptic screams "UNLIIIIMITED POWER!" anyway so eh.
    Then lets rephrase it...

    Sovereign is a step up from the Galaxy.
    Galaxy is a step up from the Ambassador.
    Ambassador is a step up from the Excelsior.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Chat wrote:
    Because the Sovereign is the ship created to replace the Galaxy maybe?

    So Excelsior should be at what tier now?

    The Soverign was NOT created to replace the Galaxy. The Galaxy is a large long term exploration ship, the Soverign is designed for combat hence why its an ASSUALT cruiser.

    The reality is Cryptic would be better having a selection of ship types at Endgame rather than fixed ones like we get now.

    Additionally, no, it should NOT be a C-Store item because this should be an entirely new ship class and thus not a reskin. Earning it ingame either by reaching the appropriate rank or completing an Accolade would be the method of getting it.

    Heaven forbid we actually have CONTENT added to the game that everyone can get WITHOUT paying extra for it. What the hell is the subscription paying for ?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I agree, it would be nice to see more ship classes at endgame, instead of the same old designs.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    J-Sheridan wrote:
    The Soverign was NOT created to replace the Galaxy. The Galaxy is a large long term exploration ship, the Soverign is designed for combat hence why its an ASSUALT cruiser.

    The reality is Cryptic would be better having a selection of ship types at Endgame rather than fixed ones like we get now.

    Additionally, no, it should NOT be a C-Store item because this should be an entirely new ship class and thus not a reskin. Earning it ingame either by reaching the appropriate rank or completing an Accolade would be the method of getting it.

    Heaven forbid we actually have CONTENT added to the game that everyone can get WITHOUT paying extra for it. What the hell is the subscription paying for ?

    Well if it was a c-store item then the proceeds from the c-store would go to the designers of the ship and all the free stuff we get, like the new sector block, klingon episodes, diplomacy system, ect. would be what your sub is paying for.

    Personally I don't really mind if it's a C-store item, I think about it like this. At my job if I earned minimum wage I'd get around 10 dollars an hour, if the excelcior has an allocade that takes me six hours of in game playing to get or 400 cryptic points it either takes me half an hour at work or six ours of my free time. I know it doesn't quite work out like that because allocades can be fun to get but 400 points in the c-store is overpriced anyway, they should make it 300 at most.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    If it was something I had to unlock in game(accolades, a special mission, etc) I would have a bigger desire to do these things, since I would be working towards a goal. I understand some people might not want to do this to earn it, so maybe it could be both in game and c-store?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    J-Sheridan wrote:
    The Soverign was NOT created to replace the Galaxy. The Galaxy is a large long term exploration ship, the Soverign is designed for combat hence why its an ASSUALT cruiser.
    Which Chat corrected herself in the post above yours...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    IMO Cryptic/Atari will milk the users and make us pay for every new ship skin be it Excelsior, Ambassador or what else through the C-Store.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Separate ship entirely. Like the TOS Connie. Tied in to a bonus item that goes with the first "adventure pack" you can purchase.

    Think outside the bun Expendable.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    If Cryptic want money, raise the subscription. Its that goddamn simple but of course doing that would actually make people balk. Instead we will paper cut their wallets with $1 - $5 items AND their subscription.

    Its only sad that the playerbase is all too willing to roll with this practice and has been indoctrinated to the point they even ****ing suggest Cryptic add MORE items to charge them for. Whats worse is the fact this is ACTUAL Star Trek stuff that should'nt NEED to be charged for.

    You want a custom varient - fair enough

    You want an actual ST ship design in a ST Game - what the hell ?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    J-Sheridan wrote:
    If Cryptic want money, raise the subscription. Its that goddamn simple but of course doing that would actually make people balk. Instead we will paper cut their wallets with $1 - $5 items AND their subscription.

    Those two options are not even remotely the same. Everyone has to pay the subscription to play, but you DONT have to have ANY of the C-store items to play.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    You must get 10 lifetime subscriber refferals and sacrifice you first born LOL.

    I hope they just offer it as a in game item, I hate getting nickled and dimed to death.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    You can get the Non Exclusive, but unique Excelsior class ship if you spend $200 on a lifetime subscription to Champions LOL.
    They should offer this ship as mid tier ship.
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