I really dont understand why they changed it anyway.
The Cheyenne is considered canon, and their model pretty much shows the Cheyenne Class so why for gods sake did they name it Constellation Class now???
I agree with the OP. The model ship in-game is Cheyenne, not Constellation. I was very surprised to read that change in the latest release notes but was reserving judgement until I can get home tonight and see for myself.
If that were the case they could not continue using the model either.
"Cheyenne" is not a copyright/trademark protected name and never can be.
Even if that is the case, then they should at least make up a new name. so it could be call a refit of the Cheyenne. But no, lets be lazy, and call it a ship that it is not.
grr I Normally don't nerd rage, but they are messing with one of my favorite ships.
It would be preferable to just rotate a model out if the class isn't available due to copyright. Renaming it to an incorrect (and previously established) name is odd. I'm hoping it's just an internal mistake.
It would be preferable to just rotate a model out if the class isn't available due to copyright. Renaming it to an incorrect (and previously established) name is odd. I'm hoping it's just an internal mistake.
That would make more sense, rename it to something that would fit, and we could call it a refit. But this was just.
It would be preferable to just rotate a model out if the class isn't available due to copyright. Renaming it to an incorrect (and previously established) name is odd. I'm hoping it's just an internal mistake.
It has nothing to do with Copyright, so why even discuss it?
They have the Star Trek license. That license means they have access to everything that falls under Star Trek, as long as they use it under the terms of the license (ie, CBS gets a portion of the revenue, and final approval before anything is included in the game). There's no chance that they will have copyright issues with character names or ship names/images as long as they have the license, and if/when they ever lose the license, then the game won't even exist.
Sorry to get ranty on a tangent, but this "maybe they lost the copyright" idea has been brought up multiple times already to "explain" various things in the patch, and it doesn't even make sense.
Ok, I'll admit that I enjoy the game and have great faith in Cryptic (for some reason.) However, I am a bit disturbed by this. Seriously, I think you got the name change wrong. the ship in game is clearly the Cheyenne (or however it is spelled.) The old Constallations ahve pretty much all been retired (example: USS Hathway) The new Stargazer-A class is the replacement for it.
I agree that this need addressed and corrected right away.
It has nothing to do with Copyright, so why even discuss it?
They have the Star Trek license. That license means they have access to everything that falls under Star Trek, as long as they use it under the terms of the license (ie, CBS gets a portion of the revenue, and final approval before anything is included in the game). There's no chance that they will have copyright issues with character names or ship names/images as long as they have the license, and if/when they ever lose the license, then the game won't even exist.
Sorry to get ranty on a tangent, but this "maybe they lost the copyright" idea has been brought up multiple times already to "explain" various things in the patch, and it doesn't even make sense.
CBS can clearly choose to change something they don't like - such as the name of the Cheyenne. It's possible the writer who created the Cheyenne demanded royalties for its use in STO. For example, Nick Locarno was changed to Tom Paris in Voyager because Paramount didn't want to pay royalties to TNG writers who created Locarno.
CBS can clearly choose to change something they don't like - such as the name of the Cheyenne. It's possible the writer who created the Cheyenne demanded royalties for its use in STO. For example, Nick Locarno was changed to Tom Paris in Voyager because Paramount didn't want to pay royalties to TNG writers who created Locarno.
The only problem with that is the fact that they now have to pay it to the maker of the Constellation.
Can't actually find any text referring to it as "Constellation".
So maybe the patch note was slightly wrong? Maybe they meant to say the reversed? *shrug*
Anyone else that has done the same? As in actually looking at the text in game...
Can't actually find any text referring to it as "Constellation".
So maybe the patch note was slightly wrong? Maybe they meant to say the reversed? *shrug*
Anyone else that has done the same? As in actually looking at the text in game...
The only problem with that is the fact that they now have to pay it to the maker of the Constellation.
Constellation might have been written under a different agreement with the authors so as CBS own the ship outright. Current issues all stems from the royalty agreements the writer's guild put in place several years ago.
Constellation might have been written under a different agreement with the authors so as CBS own the ship outright. Current issues all stems from the royalty agreements the writer's guild put in place several years ago.
true, but wouldn't common sense say to make up your own name for it? added to that I thought CBS checked everything, how could they write off on that?
true, but wouldn't common sense say to make up your own name for it? added to that I thought CBS checked everything, how could they write off on that?
Things get overlooked in licenses all the time. It could be the person who cross-checked didn't even know the difference; until the author brought it to their attention. I've been involved in a couple of situations like that myself. Or it could be something else entirely. I'm simply saying that copyright/royalty issues could be the reason for the change.
You know whats really sad, all though beta they were refering to the Cheyenne as the Constellation class, loads of players let the devs know they were refering to the ship with the wrong class name so they fixed it so the Cheyenne was referred to as the Cheyenne (Because thats what class it is). Know, only a few months later they are reverting it back to the wrong name again..........
It has nothing to do with copyrights, this is simply someone at Cryptic thats gotten confused and reverted a fixed name back to a broken name.... *sighs*
Constellation might have been written under a different agreement with the authors so as CBS own the ship outright. Current issues all stems from the royalty agreements the writer's guild put in place several years ago.
The name is owned by Paramount, so there shouldn't be a problem.
And they can't call the Cheyenne-class Constellation, because its canon that Picard's first command, the Stargazer, was a Constellation class. Which is a completely different model than the Cheyenne.
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"Cheyenne" is not a copyright/trademark protected name and never can be.
These should suffice:
Cheyenne Class
Constellation Class
Less than two minutes to do the research. Whoever 'fixed' this is an idiot.
The Cheyenne is considered canon, and their model pretty much shows the Cheyenne Class so why for gods sake did they name it Constellation Class now???
Please fix this! It aint the Constellation...
Strange they work on my end.
Even if that is the case, then they should at least make up a new name. so it could be call a refit of the Cheyenne. But no, lets be lazy, and call it a ship that it is not.
grr I Normally don't nerd rage, but they are messing with one of my favorite ships.
That would make more sense, rename it to something that would fit, and we could call it a refit. But this was just.
A. Laziness
or
B. A big mess up.
I hope it is B.
It has nothing to do with Copyright, so why even discuss it?
They have the Star Trek license. That license means they have access to everything that falls under Star Trek, as long as they use it under the terms of the license (ie, CBS gets a portion of the revenue, and final approval before anything is included in the game). There's no chance that they will have copyright issues with character names or ship names/images as long as they have the license, and if/when they ever lose the license, then the game won't even exist.
Sorry to get ranty on a tangent, but this "maybe they lost the copyright" idea has been brought up multiple times already to "explain" various things in the patch, and it doesn't even make sense.
I agree that this need addressed and corrected right away.
thanks,
Duncan
The only problem with that is the fact that they now have to pay it to the maker of the Constellation.
Can't actually find any text referring to it as "Constellation".
So maybe the patch note was slightly wrong? Maybe they meant to say the reversed? *shrug*
Anyone else that has done the same? As in actually looking at the text in game...
Ship list heavy Cruisers
Oh well
for clarity... IN GAME
What we have in game is not a Constellation class >.<
true, but wouldn't common sense say to make up your own name for it? added to that I thought CBS checked everything, how could they write off on that?
That begs the question, did they have this messed up from the start?
The 2 obvious spots...
Ship vendor.
In game ship database.
First rule of the ship database on the main site... Do not talk about the ship database.
It has nothing to do with copyrights, this is simply someone at Cryptic thats gotten confused and reverted a fixed name back to a broken name.... *sighs*
It's to early, and to sad for fight club references. ( they Violated my ship ) I think I'm going to go sit in a corner and cry.
They claim to researched Star Trek and listen to their player base, but in this case its obviously aren't doing either. :rolleyes:
The name is owned by Paramount, so there shouldn't be a problem.
And they can't call the Cheyenne-class Constellation, because its canon that Picard's first command, the Stargazer, was a Constellation class. Which is a completely different model than the Cheyenne.