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Suppose for a moment that you weren't a lifer and had to choose: "Do I pay another $15 for next month, or should I take some time off and come back in 3 months to check out the progress?"

What would you choose? Would you continue to subscribe or would you take some time off?

Hypothetically, at this point you'd have spent about $50 for the game and about $45 on sub fees.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I'd be outta there quick. But I would come back for each welcome back event to see if it became worth it again.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    That depended on if I was enjoying the game as it is now or if I didn't like it but still had hopes for it.

    If I liked it I would keep playing. If I wasn't particularly happy but still having some fun then I would probably still pay for it. If I wasn't happy but thought it would get better once Season 2 came out (or w/e), then I might cancel and come back after a time.

    It really comes down to the individual and what other game options they have or want to do. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I've felt that when I paid to play, I felt like I had to play at least a little each day, in order to feel like I got my money's worth.

    With a lifetime sub, I am able to play anytime, and not feel the regret that I couldn't play for a few days at a time.

    I'm sure someone could come up with the same logic for not playing for awhile, and having a lifetime sub.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I would have to say, yes I would still pay.

    Let me qualify that by saying, I still play my older Star Trek games.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Sivar wrote: »
    That depended on if I was enjoying the game as it is now or if I didn't like it but still had hopes for it.

    If I liked it I would keep playing. If I wasn't particularly happy but still having some fun then I would probably still pay for it. If I wasn't happy but thought it would get better once Season 2 came out (or w/e), then I might cancel and come back after a time.

    It really comes down to the individual and what other game options they have or want to do. :)

    But what would you personally do? I'm not asking about it in a general sense. Given your experience and daily or weekly gameplay activities. What would you personally do? What category do you fall under here?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    AtomicFB wrote:
    I would have to say, yes I would still pay.

    Let me qualify that by saying, I still play my older Star Trek games.

    Wanna play some elite force?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Man, I'm going to Japan and I don't even know if I'm gonna be able to play. If I wasn't a lifer I'd probably have to cancel until I was sure I'd be able to play. My problem is the way that I think this question is viewed.

    If you don't want to play the game for a while then yes, I'd take some time off and come back. It's economical for your wallet. The game is still very young and has a lot of growing up to do. Check in and enjoy what she has to offer as you feel necessary.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Consider the fact that $15 a month breaks down to 50 cents a day, I'm sure I would continue to keep my membership. As it is, I usually play at least one set of exploration missions each day, and thats at least 30 mins of playtime, which is well worth 50 cents.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kirkfat wrote: »
    But what would you personally do? I'm not asking about it in a general sense. Given your experience and daily or weekly gameplay activities. What would you personally do? What category do you fall under here?

    Given how open Cryptic has been and how they have laid out what they're going to put into the game over the next few months, I would have to say that I would stay.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    denare wrote: »
    I've felt that when I paid to play, I felt like I had to play at least a little each day, in order to feel like I got my money's worth.

    With a lifetime sub, I am able to play anytime, and not feel the regret that I couldn't play for a few days at a time.

    I'm sure someone could come up with the same logic for not playing for awhile, and having a lifetime sub.

    I understand what you're saying but I'm asking you to make a choice, imagining that you are a monthly sub. Based on how much you enjoy the game, combined with how often you play, would you choose to resub for next month, or would you take a break and come back in a few months?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Consider the fact that $15 a month breaks down to 50 cents a day, I'm sure I would continue to keep my membership. As it is, I usually play at least one set of exploration missions each day, and thats at least 30 mins of playtime, which is well worth 50 cents.

    That's a good point, how much is a game of pacman at an arcade? :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kirkfat wrote: »
    Suppose for a moment that you weren't a lifer and had to choose: "Do I pay another $15 for next month, or should I take some time off and come back in 3 months to check out the progress?"

    What would you choose? Would you continue to subscribe or would you take some time off?

    Hypothetically, at this point you'd have spent about $50 for the game and about $45 on sub fees.

    Tough question, I don't like paying $15 for a month for ANYTHING including World of Warcraft lol. But I do it, so it's a hard question - since I'm totally in love with Trek I believe I would, yes, BUT I'm 200% thrilled I got Lifetime and NEVER HAVE TO WORRY about putting more money into the game. Yes, playing $200 something one time feels better then giving $15 every month for me lol
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kirkfat wrote: »
    Suppose for a moment that you weren't a lifer and had to choose: "Do I pay another $15 for next month, or should I take some time off and come back in 3 months to check out the progress?"

    What would you choose? Would you continue to subscribe or would you take some time off?

    Hypothetically, at this point you'd have spent about $50 for the game and about $45 on sub fees.

    I would still do it. I'm still enjoying the game and see myself doing so for a while. I'd buy the lifetime sub again. I'm not so shortsighted to judge the game after this short of a period. Truthfully, for me anyway, the money was never the issue. I wouldn't have spent it if I didn't have it to lose. Buying the lifetime sub is like gambling, if you don't have the money to lose, you probably shouldn't be spending it. Once again, that's just me, I know it's a LOT of money for some people and I see both sides of it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kirkfat wrote: »
    Suppose for a moment that you weren't a lifer and had to choose: "Do I pay another $15 for next month, or should I take some time off and come back in 3 months to check out the progress?"

    What would you choose? Would you continue to subscribe or would you take some time off?

    Hypothetically, at this point you'd have spent about $50 for the game and about $45 on sub fees.

    For me it was either be a lifer or never play this game, not because I don't like the game but because I refuse to pay $15 a month because being a lifer is actually cheaper in the long run.

    However if I didn't care about the $15 a month then I would have to say that I would keep paying.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I would be taking a break, as I am anyway. The game is fun and has 'potential' to be a good ST game. Season 2 in July will be when I come back to play again.

    I am not angry about my LTS. I went in know the situaltion. I made my decision because of the fact that it is an ST MMO. Things will be fixed, they will get better, the game will evolve and I can enjoy the game over the years.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Having been here since closed, I knew what was here, so yep I'd still play, stuff is still changing as I knew it would, there is still stuff i want...... war patrols, convoy raids, convoy escorts, more stuff like the mission where you had to raid and destroy ships at a station before they powered up...REALLY don't know why there isn't more of that considering we did it in missions already.. but I feel that it will come and so yep I'd still pay/play.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    To answer your question first... Yes..

    I do the same thing for every MMO that I tried/play. My latest would be AoC of course which I don't play anymore.

    I always give all games a full year before I make an objective decision on weather or not it is the game for me. I realize that after 3 mothns I really can't tell how the game is going to go becuase of all the things that are being added/fixed. Once the year mark hit, I would then really dig deap and rate the game on things that I want for a game to keep me playing. If the game has it, then I'll continue to play until it is no fun and then I move on.

    If the game is not filling my needs by the year mark, then I move on and play something else. No hard feelings on my part or the games... It's my choice to spend/play any game, so I shouldn't jump on anyone for my choices. Thats just me though..


    Right now, I will admit I'm not playing as much as I use to becuase the game is slowly chugging along.. but I AM HOPING that if we give it the time and good critisicm that it will turn out to be something we all want to play.

    See you in game
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I'm still enjoying the game, so I'd still be here.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I think that maybe some people are missing what I'm asking. It's more of a question relating to your current gaming experience and if you deem the next month's worth of play as equally as you viewed last month or the month before. I realize that many of you guys hate dishing out $15 a month for something like this, but I'm asking for your subjective opinions here. If you put yourselves in the shoes of a monthly subscriber, what would you do. Pay $15-30 for the next few months, or take a break to see the progress before committing yourself further to the game.

    In other words, are you as completely invested and happy with this game after 3 months of playing it, or do you find yourself playing less often? How has your playing habits changed? Would those changes, if you paid monthly, influence your decision to resub?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kirkfat wrote: »
    I understand what you're saying but I'm asking you to make a choice, imagining that you are a monthly sub. Based on how much you enjoy the game, combined with how often you play, would you choose to resub for next month, or would you take a break and come back in a few months?

    In all honesty, I really don't know.
    I find the game fun. But I already have one of each class at RA5.
    I'm waiting around for the next big update.
    So under that assumption, I'd have to say no. I'd wait for the big update, and check back.
    However, the reward system will be retroactive, so I'd have to pay to keep the account active.
    I'm leaning towards no, if I had to make a decision.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kirkfat wrote: »

    In other words, are you as completely invested and happy with this game after 3 months of playing it, or do you find yourself playing less often? How has your playing habits changed? Would those changes, if you paid monthly, influence your decision to resub?

    I am happy with the game but I am not satisfied with the game, if that makes sense. So yes I would continue to sub

    I find myself playing a little less often but only cause RL and other games also need attention.

    My habits pretty much stay on the same cycle. So ya, nothing changed for me

    No, only if I couldn't play or was unwilling to play for an extended time. (Or they pulled a NGE)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kirkfat wrote: »
    I think that maybe some people are missing what I'm asking. It's more of a question relating to your current gaming experience and if you deem the next month's worth of play as equally as you viewed last month or the month before. I realize that many of you guys hate dishing out $15 a month for something like this, but I'm asking for your subjective opinions here. If you put yourselves in the shoes of a monthly subscriber, what would you do. Pay $15-30 for the next few months, or take a break to see the progress before committing yourself further to the game.

    In other words, are you as completely invested and happy with this game after 3 months of playing it, or do you find yourself playing less often? How has your playing habits changed? Would those changes, if you paid monthly, influence your decision to resub?

    I think it is a broad question to ask, since there are so many folks who feels diffrently. Like me ... again, YES I would still be paying... Why?

    I give it the 1yr mark, regardless of if i like it or not.. happy or not.. etc etc.. some other folks will feel different and judge the spending as a cost benifit or not. To me gamming is not about the money but more about my off time. I have always loved gaming and if you can bury me in a computer box.. then I'll be happy.

    I guess another thing I am getting from your question is "are you happy with the game"? that in itself will be another tough question, becuase different peeps will look for different things. As a player said above, the July patch might be a nice patch where you will see alot of folks come back to give it a whirl.

    Get what I'm saying my friend?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kirkfat wrote: »
    Suppose for a moment that you weren't a lifer and had to choose: "Do I pay another $15 for next month, or should I take some time off and come back in 3 months to check out the progress?"

    What would you choose? Would you continue to subscribe or would you take some time off?

    I would take some time off and come back six months or so later.

    Mind you, I enjoy the game, and I'm happy with my lifetime sub. I think it will pay off in the long run. But I don't think the game is worth $15 a month yet. The game needs a lot more content. I seriously doubt that Season 2 will provide enough.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Let me just say this. I am still paying for my CoH account and I play that rarely if at all these days. I'm sure once Going Rogue is released the playtime will pick up again as I have plans for one character in particular and he's one of my all server alts.

    I think I'd feel the same way about STO as new seasons are released. That's why I bought the Lifetime sub in the first place.


    :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Just to clarify, I'm not asking anyone to justify their decision to purchase a lifetime subscription. I'm only asking that you put yourselves in the shoes of a montlhy subscriber and ask, "What would I do, given that I can't afford a lifetime sub?"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    To be totally honest when I started playing this game (closed beta) I told myself the only way I would play post beta was if it had a lifetime subscription. That's not knocking STO, but I can only justify so much wife aggro and only pay for one game at a time. For me that game has been and still is CoH.

    But since STO offered lifetime I could justify the up front cost for the long term benefits. When stuff comes out for CoH and I take a break from STO it's justified as the normal monthly cost for that game. When I take a break from CoH and play STO then it's still the same cost only as if diverted to this game. Sure STO hasn't paid for itself yet but it will. To the OP though, if lifetime wasn't an option, I would not be in this game only because my love for CoH is greater. If CoH didn't exist I'd be here and paying willingly.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kirkfat wrote: »
    In other words, are you as completely invested and happy with this game after 3 months of playing it, or do you find yourself playing less often? How has your playing habits changed? Would those changes, if you paid monthly, influence your decision to resub?

    I don't log in every day, but I do log in most days. I don't play for more than a few hours at a time. I go slow. I read the missions I'm doing. On one of my characters, I'm actually doing the Captain's Log entries for all of the story missions. I have kept this pace up since Headstart, and I still have not gotten a character to Admiral. I'm in no rush, and I am having fun. Next month, I probably will get to Admiral. But next month I'll probably also be able to get a few friends to try the game, so I have a great reason to do all the content again. Then comes July and Season 2. So yeah, I have a lot of good reasons to keep subscribing, were I to still have to make that choice.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Kirkfat wrote: »
    Just to clarify, I'm not asking anyone to justify their decision to purchase a lifetime subscription. I'm only asking that you put yourselves in the shoes of a montlhy subscriber and ask, "What would I do, given that I can't afford a lifetime sub?"

    Not sure the difference really. If the game wasn't keeping me entertained I wouldn't have went LT on it. Not being one of those 'rush to endgame as fast as possible' types I'm still enjoying the journey. That would be unchanged if I were monthly.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Well i really dont know. Think i would come back in a couple of month.Its nice to have a lifetime thou.
    For me its not about the money, thats not the issue.Its for me a matter of principle, things i want to se ingame and many others. And that they refuse to answear or cant answear .

    Things like why cant the enemy encounters be optional, why cant we know if there will be some sort of open pvp. Bug fixes thats been since open beta. STF's that are more group friendly and not grinding and borring .Better and more pvp maps.Less instances with more players and make sector space better and bigger. Transwarp between starbases. Why the heck cant we fly any ship we want as a tier 5 ship, makes no sense. Things like that. This is things we ask about all the time and they dont answear.

    They work hard to give us more content, but the stuff that for many of us really matter i'm afraid will never se the light of day in this game.And to have to pay 400 cryptic points to reskill a caracter is just crasy.They actually charge players in the c-store for emotes, thats over the top.

    All i know is that it is nice to have somthing to look forward to, and for me that is TOR.
    Thats my new hope :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Ok, this is actually happening to me, as a lifer.

    I am enjoying this game, but I'm starting to look ahead a bit too much. I'm really looking forward to July's Season 2.0.

    In addition, TWO new games (an expansion to one and a new one entirely) are out this summer. I already pre-ordered the expansion, and when it arrives here on Monday, I'll play that for 30 days, likely abandoning STO for a while.

    The second game I'm completely torn on, as it has such a different approach, but they may be doing a very strange sub plan (like a prepaid cellphone) so I may just bite that bullet too.


    So, Im having fun here, I'm absolutely going back to the other game to see the expansion, and its unlikely I'll mess with the third game.

    If I was on a recurring sub here, and it came up this month?

    I'd let it lapse for 30 days, and be damn sure I was back for Season 2.0.



    Now, I'm not likely to have a monthly recurring... I usually buy game time by the year, unless its a special thing like this expansion thingy. so in reality, if I didn't have the LTS, I'd have a 12 or 6 month sub, and this would be a pointless exercise.
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