(Calm the flames, its the article headline...not mine)
MMO Hub Article
Summed up it basically says:
1. Cryptic failed to finish the game.
2. Atari and Cryptic failed to keep their greed in check
3. STO fails as an MMO.
4. Non-PvE activities fail.
5. The endgame fails.
I don't agree with everything he points out, but mostly this seems spot on to me as to the primary problems.
Thoughts?
Comments
My topics going deep on the subject have been deleted.
Cryptic's response to the failure of the endgame: "LA LA LA LA LA! I am not listening! LA LA LA!"
I agree with each of these points 100%
STO is NOT Star Trek
2. Lack of sufficient sandbox elements (such as open pvp areas, an actual crafting system, amongst others) for players to be able to generate their OWN content post RA5.
3. Lack of choice with respect to ships at RA5. We basically are forced to jettison all those wonderfully done iconic ships we had to get to RA and end up flying the same ugly ships at Admiral. Releasing ugly reskins for them is not sufficient.
4. Star Trek isn't about killing everything that moves.
5. I just have to be point 1 all over again. Content, content, content. No content, no game, no longevity, no reason to play, no subscribers. It literally isn't any simpler than that.
I bet you though this thread will flock with apologists doing more lalallala impression before too long, therefore staying Cryptic's hand for actually addressing these concerns first hand.
I've played through Open Beta, the Head Star Access, and ever since official release and I can tell you that the changes from the first day I played until now are amazing. The game is definitely 100 times better. I haven't gotten bored yet and I cannot see myself getting bored anytime soon.
Cryptic didn't complete the game because they were on a deadline by CBS (I believe that's who it was) and if they didn't release the game on time they would lose the license to Star Trek and to make the game. I don't blame them for rushing it.
They are definitely a bit too greedy, however they are giving a lot of stuff away for free with this new veteran rewards program. Although some of the prices in the C-Store could be lowered.
STO is already massive and is already online, we just need more multi-player content.
Non-PvE activities fail? I'm assuming that means PvP fails? I really haven't played any PvP so I can't comment.
Haven't done the endgame yet either so I can't comment on that.
So this isn't an article about why STO is failing him, he likes it just fine.
It's also not a thread about why STO failed me. I have given that testimony until I'm blue in the face...both here and as product reviews on as many sites as I could manage.
I simply wanted to discuss the merits of what the author was conveying in this article.
Right now, having stuff to do would require me to level another character to RA5, as there is literally next to nothing for my RA5 first toon to do.
This is, well, a PROBLEM. If grinding more characters is the only thing to do in this game, then it really isn't a functioning, ongoing MMORPG, but instead a single player game that happens to require a subscription that has no more replay value than Mass Effect 2, since all you can do when you are done is replay it over and over.
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It's the same thing every time. You criticise the game, you must hate it. It's the easy way out for apologists because then they don't have to think about what you say.
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This post made me giggle. Why so angry, man?
I can't convey enough that I'm not attacking anyone having a good time. If you are having fun, then I say thats awesome...have fun!
I'm still just as welcome to my opinions on the matter as anyone else is. And as I've stated plainly before, I paid my one year sub (foolishly) so I also have the right to be here.
I'm not a troll, I'm a disappointed customer.
Thanks LT, at least you get it.
my comments in yellow
What it never says is any actual evidence the game is failing. This is just another QQ blog.
Isn't that the same site that had an article on how to pick up women in an MMO???? That site is such loser bait, look at the background image for godsakes.
FYI - STO may have failed you, but not me.
My bad, I only got to the meat of the post...so embarrased! Altered for more restraint of understanding.
Just kinda got sick of the negative posts about something that others have control over in all of its simplicity.
Its one of those darned if you do and darned if you don't. Eevryone had to buy the game, everyone had to purchase a sub. I don't know of anything that i buy that is as good as advertised.
Only time will truly tell.
Not really angry though...kinda difficult to do for someone with my disposition. Do I have fun playing? More often than not. You get what you put in, and people get what they deserve.
You may now hit me with the many licks of saturns belt.
Fixed that for you.
No harm, no foul.
Party on!
was intellectual depth. Which most MMOs lack greatly.
Again who knows...
I've always contended that the reason WoW continues to dominate the market isn't because of its greatness, its because the other MMOs lack thereof.
I found his final note very important:
It doesn't really need that much, and it seems this kind of stuff is coming. So I just don't feel the expression
"Startrek Online is Failing" is a good description. "Startrek Online has a lot of potential" and "Startrek Online has yet to realize its full potential" a lot better. [/Season 2 Optimist]
True... other MMOs are lacking, and I expect Bioware to take away the crown from WoW as it is overly carebeer friendly.
As someone who has also been looking forward to Bioware's offering, I hope you're right. I've tried to keep my expectations in check with upcoming MMO releases, however.
BWAHAHAHA!
Sorry. I couldn't keep a straight face, either.
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Since I am not very experienced with other MMO, one question i have: What do people describe as "end-game" content? What is it made of? Is it just repeatable missions, and "endgame content" just means there must be enough of unique different? (E.g. PvP and Exploration alone are part of it, but there must be more?)
You need to keep in mind that they were under stress by CBS and Atari for the releasing of the game. STO only has a 2 year development cycle which in terms for a MMO isn't long at all.
However, we've seen at other failed MMO launches such as Age of Conan and Warhammer Online that it tends to be extremely hard to fix up the game and win back the subscribers you've lost. I think it's still too soon to judge about STO, we'll see with the release of the next big patch. Bare in mind also that there's a few promotions coming, in my opinion it's too soon but hey it's the PR department doing it so dunno how they reason that doing a promotion at this time in STO's cycle is a good idea.
Season 2 patch will be the balance on which we'll see how many subs will stay and how many more of them will be leaving. So wait until then and see I'd say