test content
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc

Still no Aid the Planet missions, part two

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
When the last patch went live, the patchnotes specifically mentioned you would be more likely to get an Aid the Planet mission if you currently had the Needs of The Many mission.

They also included this:
We've increased the chances that you'll find more "Aid the Planet" missions in Star Clusters. It is still random and rare, but previously after completing one, there was a cooldown timer before you could get another one, and that timer has been reduced.

The emphasis is mine - while it's true on Tribble that I did receive an Aid The Planet mission before 1.1 went live, obviously that doesn't carry over to Holodeck.

Since 1.1, I have explored over 40 empty systems in Delta Volanis on Holodeck, with the Needs of the Many set at "Primary" and I have not seen another AtP mission. I also haven't seen one in B'tran either, yet.

Now, this got me thinking - people have said they haven't seen a Relief Effort mission in months, like myself, while other say they get streaks of them. Here's my thought; which is why I bolded the test above:

Is it possible when the "cooldown" for AtP missions was added, it was set on some characters mistakenly to a glitched value, like 20 months instead of 20 minutes, or whatever it is? Now, I have no way of knowing if people who DO get aid missions have been playing their characters as long as I have, but if I were a dev/QA, I'd look and see if this "cooldown" is glitched somehow - it must be on a per-character basis.

My original bug report (#824,534) is still open, by the way.
Post edited by Unknown User on
«1

Comments

  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Haven't seen a single aid the planet mission, with or without Needs of the Many since the patch either.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    MightionNY wrote: »
    When the last patch went live, the patchnotes specifically mentioned you would be more likely to get an Aid the Planet mission if you currently had the Needs of The Many mission.

    They also included this:


    The emphasis is mine - while it's true on Tribble that I did receive an Aid The Planet mission before 1.1 went live, obviously that doesn't carry over to Holodeck.

    Since 1.1, I have explored over 40 empty systems in Delta Volanis on Holodeck, with the Needs of the Many set at "Primary" and I have not seen another AtP mission. I also haven't seen one in B'tran either, yet.

    Now, this got me thinking - people have said they haven't seen a Relief Effort mission in months, like myself, while other say they get streaks of them. Here's my thought; which is why I bolded the test above:

    Is it possible when the "cooldown" for AtP missions was added, it was set on some characters mistakenly to a glitched value, like 20 months instead of 20 minutes, or whatever it is? Now, I have no way of knowing if people who DO get aid missions have been playing their characters as long as I have, but if I were a dev/QA, I'd look and see if this "cooldown" is glitched somehow - it must be on a per-character basis.

    My original bug report (#824,534) is still open, by the way.

    I was having a problem with them before the latest patch went live. I searched about 20 systems in Delta Volanis and never found one. When the new patch went live, I finally found one in Delta Volanis, but completing it didn't finish the needs of the many like it should have. Since then I've searched an additional 10 or 15 systems in another Star Cluster and have yet to find one there. It definitely seems there are still problems with the Relief Aid missions.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    They are a separate elective quest form. You can find the NPCs who provide them by the commodities people on the stations.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Ayenn wrote:
    They are a separate elective quest form. You can find the NPCs who provide them by the commodities people on the stations.

    I've had it selected, and I haven't gotten a single aid quest.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Still none for me, nothing on Tribble, none on Holodeck. Plenty of empty missions though.

    I'm starting to take this personal. ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I have logged on three times since this last patch and done three exploration missions. Of those, I have had two Aid the Planet missions. Seems to be working fine to me.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Ayenn wrote:
    They are a separate elective quest form. You can find the NPCs who provide them by the commodities people on the stations.

    I picked up that mission yesterday, went into Delta Volanis, checked 30+ systems, finished a few missions, skiped out on alot of them, and not one aid mission. If I take an alt to any other cluster without the needs of the many mission, I can find an aid mission within 5 systems, and still get the offering reward.

    I do belive the Cluster may be bugged, but taking the mission is in no way a guarantee that you will get an aid mission, and most likely they will not even ask for the items that The guy gives you even if you do find one.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Working for me as well. I wonder if it's relevant that I had a bunch saved up before the patch that I turned in after the patch. Since then, I've had 3 out of maybe 40 or so exploration missions, which seems reasonable.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I was having a problem with them before the latest patch went live. I searched about 20 systems in Delta Volanis and never found one. When the new patch went live, I finally found one in Delta Volanis, but completing it didn't finish the needs of the many like it should have. Since then I've searched an additional 10 or 15 systems in another Star Cluster and have yet to find one there. It definitely seems there are still problems with the Relief Aid missions.

    This is exactly the issue i'm having on my tactical. I used to get relief missions, got one when Needs of the Many sent me to Delta Volanis but the mission failed to update on completion. Since then - after dozens of tries - no aid the planet at all.

    My science captain had no problems completing it whatsoever.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I have received the mission and completed it. In fact, the cooldown now makes them appear too much for my liking. :p

    Have you guys tried doing a force verify to ensure your files are up-to-date comepletely?

    Edited: There are missions in B'Tran but their timer must be far longer.

    You'll have to go to the lower tiers as you were instructed during the mission briefings.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I

    Also, THERE ARE NO AID MISSIONS IN B'TRAN.

    You'll have to go to the lower tiers as you were instructed during the mission briefings.


    Well.... if you go to DS9 and do the quest there.... the commodities broker tells you there are Aid the Planet missions in B'TRAN and lists what is needed.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I tried now for at last 10 hours to get a Aid Planet Mission in the Dalta Volanis Cluster but nada. :eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    before the patch i used to get a lot of these missions, but never did them because i couldnt be bothered with them. after the patch, in a 2 hour run i did of repeated exploration to level my character, i got one aid the planet mission, the reward in the gift box was a green science console.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010

    Also, THERE ARE NO AID MISSIONS IN B'TRAN.

    I've done aid missions in B'Tran on test and on live server.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    i've had two aid the planet mission in the b'tran sector on my RA's since the changes were made to them

    additionally, unlike OP i didn't have to do the 'needs of the many' missions on either RA, however on a new toon i'm currently leveling up its told me to go there - delta cluster. given another person's comments it sounds like it may be bugged, but i'll try tonight and see what happens.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I"ve been trying to complete Needs of the Many for three days with no planetary aid missions, an average of 8 hours a day (I went on a 13 hour marathon in the Volanis Cluster without a single aid mission).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Just decided to test this a little bit. I got the Needs of the many quest in Sol and went to the Delta Volanis and entered about 20-30 unknown systems and not one Aide the planet mission. Hrrrm.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Same here, I've failed to find one after hours and hours of searching pre & post patch, I've all but given up here. I'm really beginning to think that this is bugged somehow. It's either that or I'm never stepping foot in a casino again :X
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I've found that the Aid missions generally seem to be the ones closest to the four zone borders.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    My personal experience indicates the issue is related to the rank of the character, and experience with 'missions of explorations'...
    • On Friday, I ran a Lt 8 Character, and got a hit on the 5th Mission
    • On Saturday, I ran a Cmdr 2 for 3 hours with no hits
    • Then I tried a Lt. 10 Character, and got a hit on the 5th mission.
    • Then a tried a Lt. Cmdr 1 (with no exploration experience) and got a hit on the first try!!!
    • Then back to my Cmdr 2 for another 2 hours with no hits
    For that matter, I don't recall ever getting a 'Aid the Planet' mission from that Cmdr character for the past two months, and there were rumors floating around this Forum that 'Commodity' mission had been disabled due to bugs... Could this be related to the issues were seeing now???
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    MightionNY wrote: »
    When the last patch went live, the patchnotes specifically mentioned you would be more likely to get an Aid the Planet mission if you currently had the Needs of The Many mission.

    They also included this:


    The emphasis is mine - while it's true on Tribble that I did receive an Aid The Planet mission before 1.1 went live, obviously that doesn't carry over to Holodeck.

    Since 1.1, I have explored over 40 empty systems in Delta Volanis on Holodeck, with the Needs of the Many set at "Primary" and I have not seen another AtP mission. I also haven't seen one in B'tran either, yet.

    Now, this got me thinking - people have said they haven't seen a Relief Effort mission in months, like myself, while other say they get streaks of them. Here's my thought; which is why I bolded the test above:

    Is it possible when the "cooldown" for AtP missions was added, it was set on some characters mistakenly to a glitched value, like 20 months instead of 20 minutes, or whatever it is? Now, I have no way of knowing if people who DO get aid missions have been playing their characters as long as I have, but if I were a dev/QA, I'd look and see if this "cooldown" is glitched somehow - it must be on a per-character basis.

    My original bug report (#824,534) is still open, by the way.

    Yep, I looked for an hour last night and could not find any. I zoomed in and if it wasn't an "Aid the Planet Mission" I warped out.

    Sadly.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I've had no problem getting these missions. Did 3 last night.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I dusted off my RA5 to go do the new missions. Got the one to aid a system in D.V. and headed there Saturday morning. First exploration was an "Aid the Planet" mission. Completed it, but didn't get the completion for my "Needs of the Many" mission.
    I remembered doing the same mission on my LtC9 and had no problems, so I thought maybe it was because I didn't have the mission to explore three systems, so I picked that up and went to try again.
    Haven't had an "Aid the Planet" mission since then, despite flying around there for hours on Saturday and again today.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Total without any evidence but my own faulty memory, when my tac captain went from an escort to the exploration cruiser, I got a long streak of Aid The Planet missions. So much so that it occurred to me that it might be tied to the type of ship. In other words, the likelihood of getting an aid mission is greater for a cruiser, less for a science, and least for an escort.

    But again, no real data to back that up. Wonder if anybody else has noticed this?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Total without any evidence but my own faulty memory, when my tac captain went from an escort to the exploration cruiser, I got a long streak of Aid The Planet missions. So much so that it occurred to me that it might be tied to the type of ship. In other words, the likelihood of getting an aid mission is greater for a cruiser, less for a science, and least for an escort.

    But again, no real data to back that up. Wonder if anybody else has noticed this?

    I'm curious about this as well? Could it actually be related to the ship we have? Under the cruiser description I read during Open Beta, they were ideal for helping colonits, transport supplies, etc. As a science lt. cmdr, I got more of these than when I used my escort on the same cmdr.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I also (still) haven't had an Aid planet mission since Feb 03, and have played Exploration missions extensively to get all the Memory Alpha tiers unlocked. Even after the new update, accepting the new Needs of Many missions from the contact, and doing a complete tour of EVERY cluster doing between 6 and 9 missions in every exploration zone from Delta Volanis to B'tran I still haven't had one [ actually more mission per zone than 6 - 9 since I would warp out of bugged Secure System missions and the frequent scan space anomaly missions].

    I tried clearing all missions from my list and revisiting all the clusters in the hopes it might be a stuck "flag" as postulated by dstahl in post #23 of this thread:
    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=153631
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I'm glad i'm not the only one banging my head against the wall over this. I haven't played the game since open beta(just got a 10-day buddy key from a friend) and this annoying the hell out of me. I got ONE "Aid the Planet" mission which i completed but i didn't have the "Needs of the Many" quest and it's frustrating that i can't complete that quest now.

    Could it be that the frequency of the "Aid the Planet" missions is set really low, and those who have gotten one have been EXTREMLY lucky?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Nope, still none.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    also still no real star trek dont forget that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I've done four of the "aid the planet" missions since the update.

    Two of them were "back-to-back"

    I find it hard to believe that folks are actually trying if they have not seen one...


    Have you noticed that when doing exploration missions, they are assigned randomly?

    Sometimes you will get several ground missions in a row, sometimes two space missions and a "find the base" mission. If you only do the three required initially, there may be a possibility of not seeing any aid missions.


    I'm not calling the OP or anyone else a liar, my personal experience just seem counter to what you are saying, though.


    Also, I believe the "aid the planet" missions do not spawn as often if you play exploration missions beneath your level. So, if that is the case for you, try playing content that is "your level" and see if that helps.
Sign In or Register to comment.