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VETGATE 2010 another wasted thread.

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
So I'm looking at the forums, and I'm seeing a new topic. the vet Rewards.
Now the fight is over the Life time subscribers who get access to the captain's table. ( an over rated empty space station that travels time ) Who say that this station is theirs, and only theirs.

Now Cryptic is going to give it to everyone if they stick around for 400 days.

this has caused some of the Life timers to get angry over this. This is mostly due to the fact that they had to pay up front 239.99 to get a life time worth of game play. So they Feel that the Non Life SUBs don't deserve that much.

On the other hand there are others who Feel that we NON LIFERS need more, because while the lifers are stuck here for life. we can still leave.

but the question is. how big is the gap between Life time Subs, and NON Life time subs cost wise.

well 400 days is when you get access to it. that comes out to 13.150684932 months. ( or 3.456e+25 Attoseconds for anyone who cares )
Now with Subscriptions at 14.99 a month. the amount of money the NON subs have to pay is $194.87 ( Not counting the 14th month because we all got a free month with our games. )

So the NON LIFERs save $45.12 over the Life time subs. To some that could be fair, to some that is not. fact is the life timers start to save money not to long after 400 day , while the NON LIFERs still have to pay.



The real question is does it matter. we are talking about a year and one month down the road. In that time many things can happen. the devs mite roll out new life only vet rewards. they mite even closes down the game. there are to many variables that can happen from now to then. Sadly for VETGATE the people who are mad can't really leave. ( I don't mean that in a mean way. ) but that's up to you to decide.

I will report and you decide.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    nope not a big deal dont really care
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Only like 2 Lifers are mad about it. The rest of us are all for it. So really there isn't much of an issue beyond a few people crying over it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    It's only one or two malcontents raising the pitchfork and torch. Pretty much everybody else is perfectly fine with it.

    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~ Phoxe
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    DeWitt_LSF wrote:
    It's only one or two malcontents raising the pitchfork and torch. Pretty much everybody else is perfectly fine with it.

    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~ Phoxe

    this </thread>
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    DeWitt_LSF wrote:
    It's only one or two malcontents raising the pitchfork and torch. Pretty much everybody else is perfectly fine with it.

    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~ Phoxe

    This ^^ (QFE)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    dr_Drake wrote:
    Only like 2 Lifers are mad about it. The rest of us are all for it. So really there isn't much of an issue beyond a few people crying over it.
    I PROTEST AGAINST THE CAPTAINS TABLE VETERANS REWARD. NO NON-LIFER SHOULD BE IN OUR JOINT! I protest against cryptic and will cancel my account as will many others I know and do a huge campain against companies who use exclusives for lifetime subscribers as bait for new players. or old ones.

    Its ripping us off, its lies, and false advertisement.

    SHAME ON YOU CRYPTIC.

    So long as I'm a player, there will be NO normal players in OUR lifetime sub station!!!!!!

    I suggest that cryptic build a new base, just for the veterans.. Lifers included.. But that the PROMISED SANCUTARY OF CAPTAINS CHAIR REMAIN JUST OURS.. IT WAS PROMISED..

    Wake up cryptic.

    so you are only saying it's ignorant posts like this, and not the full life community?

    question is. are the people mad about have a right to be mad, or are they just being selfish?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    lol i bet those two are selfish ahaha :P
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Zodi-emish wrote:
    so you are only saying it's ignorant posts like this, and not the full life community?

    question is. are the people mad about have a right to be mad, or are they just being selfish?

    Pretty much Just the OP and one other person is being selfish. Everyone has a right to be mad, but they don't have the right to make this call, and i personally think cryptic made a good one here.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    DeWitt_LSF wrote:
    It's only one or two malcontents raising the pitchfork and torch. Pretty much everybody else is perfectly fine with it. So do us all a favor and quit adding fuel to the imaginary fire.

    Never let a good Crisis go to waste.

    as for the claims of false advertining. read this.

    As an added bonus, anyone opting for the lifetime subscription option will get two additional character slots and:

    Playable liberated Borg species option in the character creator. Create your very own, customizable character, freshly freed from the Borg collective.

    Anyone wishing to take Cryptic up on its lifetime offer has until February 1st to decide as the game is released on February 2nd after which point it won’t be available.

    Read more: http://www.geek.com/articles/games/cryptic-offer-star-trek-online-lifetime-subscription-for-239-99-20100118/#ixzz0mchHtGJP

    so the Life time was advertised as unlimited play, two character slots, and a borg. I don't see any thing about the Capt's table.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Not sure, but I'd guess having threads that discuss what other people are isn't accepted.

    They can think what they want, but there's no "VETGATE".
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    dr_Drake wrote:
    Pretty much Just the OP and one other person is being selfish. Everyone has a right to be mad, but they don't have the right to make this call, and i personally think cryptic made a good one here.

    In that case there is not point. what are they going to do quit? :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Good.

    I believe that anyone that sticks around that long should get access to the Captain's Table.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    DeWitt_LSF wrote:
    It's only one or two malcontents raising the pitchfork and torch. Pretty much everybody else is perfectly fine with it. So do us all a favor and quit adding fuel to the imaginary fire.

    QFT

    only a few goobers are trying to make it a weekend "Salegate" When it is anything but. Cryptic this time has made a fantastic move that should be praised not ridiculed. Anyone who participates in exacerbating this "Vetgate" is only trying to cause trouble for troubles sake. This is not about lifers vs subscribers. This is about a few people who know how to push peoples buttons. Simple as that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I know there's a drink in here somewhere. Can you help me find it?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    The captain's table is too quiet. I'd be happy to see others there. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Exclusive does not mean exclusive forever.

    People who pay for over a year of monthly fees, knowing they could leave at any time but choosing to stay...? I'd welcome them to the Captain's Table.

    xXLocutusXx and Imperius are upset. That's it. Most of the rest of us had even been talking about ways to get non -Lifers a shot at going there since the thing launched.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Heheh if the game is around in 400 days then by all means let people who paid for 400 days have it.
    I could care less....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Exclusive does not mean exclusive forever.

    People who pay for over a year of monthly fees, knowing they could leave at any time but choosing to stay...? I'd welcome them to the Captain's Table.

    xXLocutusXx and Imperius are upset. That's it. Most of the rest of us had even been talking about ways to get non -Lifers a shot at going there since the thing launched.

    This sums up the whole point of the thread.

    it is only two people

    life time subs who are saying they will quit over this. :confused:

    Now while we have had blow ups like this, ( the last bad marketing that happened) but it was over something that matter.

    this on the other hand is something that is not going to happen for 13 months.

    over a year from now because subscribers.

    Now actions like the two above mite cause those of us who are not tied to the game, want to leave.

    that is not a good thing.

    we need to be bringing in more people tot his game, so we can have a viable community.

    that is all i have to say, and I want to congratulate the pin heads of the week.

    <TRANSMISSION CLOSED>
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I dunno, 13 months is a bit short IMO, it should be like 24 months.

    ....So, uhm, raaaaaage. Roar, I am so upset. Roar.

    :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I am a lifer. I say welcome all vets. The place isn't as happening as it should be so let anyone who has played long enough in.


    Basically I could care less about the vet rewards I get them and so does every other lifer and so will my son ( he has a yearly) and anyone else who has played long enough. Its all cool.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    'Vetgate?' Yeesh, you're trying too hard.

    I can't wait til Cryptic gives out free Lollipops so we can have "Candygate."
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Really, I only see one person in blue complaining in ten thousand threads threatening to quit the game, and that is Imperius. He does not speak for the majority of us and if I were a mod I'd kick his sorry TRIBBLE to the curb, lifer or not. He makes the rest of us look like selfish jerks who are elitist and look down on the "unwashed masses". That is not true. Every thread that I've read and posted in about the Veteran Rewards only he and one or two others are stirring the pot.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    personae wrote:
    'Vetgate?' Yeesh, you're trying too hard.

    I can't wait til Cryptic gives out free Lollipops so we can have "Candygate."
    I couldn't agree more.

    As you all know, the past few months on these forums has been one rage fueled rampage after another. While I never agreed with the level of vehemence that was displayed, at least most of the ragers in the past usually had a fairly legitimate complaint.

    But this? This, like you said, is one person just trying way too hard to start a weekend forum flamefest.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Yeah, I'm super happy Cryptic enabled Vet rewards. I suggested the captains table being a 1 year vet reward a long time ago, right after we got the thing.

    Cryptic did something right for a change. Go Cryptic.

    :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    they just need to give more to the people in general and make things separate again between life subs, subs 400day count and those who have regular new accounts. its just a content issue.

    i for one would like to see transwarp between starbases and the use of flight sticks for space battles.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    unfortunately cryptic tends to take far too much notice from people spamming complaints like this, remember the death penalty? a few people spam in various threads to make it look like the majority is against it, and what happens? bye bye DP from normal mode. wouldn't be suprised if the captains table is removed from the vet rewards by tuesday.
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