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VeteranGate 2010: Try To Look At Vet Rewards From A Neutral Point Of View...

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This challenge is to look at the Vet Rewards program from a neutral point of view to come up with what is fair for both sides...

Can you come up with a solution to the veteran debate scandal that is fair to both sides?


**The only rule is that your plan must include Cryptic implementing the Vet rewards in some fashion**
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Popkornn wrote:
    This challenge is to look at the Vet Rewards program from a neutral point of view to come up with what is fair for both sides...

    Can you come up with a solution to the veteran debate scandal that is fair to both sides?


    **The only rule is that your plan must include Cryptic implementing the Vet rewards in some fashion**

    what are these "sides" those that play and those that don't? >_>
    those that play get vet rewards, those that don't get nothing... easy enough solution =/
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    tendel wrote: »
    What's not fair?

    The reward structure is based solely upon time subscribed.

    LTS should get everything as they have subscribed forever.

    Everyone can qualify.

    I see it more and more as a LTS promotion for current and new subscribers.


    lts still have to wait the so many days before getting the reward... if i signed up for an lts right now, i'd still have to wait the 100 days (well 90 coz i've played for 30 days ) to get my 100 day reward... only difference is i don't have to pay again in 30 days >_>
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    i did post a compromise idea i had in one of the other posts, it was to give lifers the perks and give veteran non lifers different perks at the same level or as powerful as the lifer perks, everyone has a perk, everyone's happy, what d'you all think
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    There is a side to this?

    Either you have accumlated the time or you have not. I do not see sides here.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    AS a lifer I can say this. There is no problem. I paid for a lifetime so I will get all the Veteran rewards (saw a deve post confirming this) and if everyone else who pays to play month to month or yearly plays long enough to have paid close to what I paid then fair game for them to get same perks.

    There is no "gate" I and a fair number of lifers do not have a problem with this. So no change is needed.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    There is no "gate" I and a fair number of lifers do not have a problem with this. So no change is needed.

    Concur. I do not see any problem here at all. Fun bonus, that's all!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    yeah what sides would there be to that? its the same as every other MMO that offers vet rewards...big deal
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    The rewards are perfectly fine as they are. Cosmetic fluff for paying customers after a certain time spent.
    A cunning choice of 100 days to start them off. 100 days. 4, not 3 months subs.

    It's a meaningless bunch of window-dressing for something you plan to do anyway ( if indeed you do plan to subscribe that long ).

    If anything the lifers have had the perks that they paid for. If you want to talk about fairness for the people who will be supporting the game in future by paying more than the LTS guys then make the perks 'subscriber only'.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Errr, aren't the lifetime rewards supposed to be rewards for supporting Cryptic and STO? If that's so once somebody has given either the same amount of support, or more, wouldn't that warrent the same perks? Especially since I'm fairly sure I'll be paying monthly long after a LTS would have paid off.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    What sides?



    I don't see any sides.


    The vet awards are fine as they are.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    OK how about an NCO club for the subscribers no LTS allowed like it is now for the Captains table?

    I am not against lifers havin a place but from what i have heard the place is a ghost town most of the time.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Popkornn wrote:
    This challenge is to look at the Vet Rewards program from a neutral point of view to come up with what is fair for both sides...

    Can you come up with a solution to the veteran debate scandal that is fair to both sides?


    **The only rule is that your plan must include Cryptic implementing the Vet rewards in some fashion**
    (*walks Popkornn to the nearest airlock ... and spaces him*) Fait accompli :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Veteran Gate?

    The wife and I were watching a movie. Did I miss Cryptic's usual "it's friday so let's make an announcement and [censored] everyone on the forums for the entire weekend" announcement?

    Edit: Ok, I checked the dev tracker and didn't find any Vet Reward announcements. Also nothing on the main website. Am I just being an idiot and missing the obvious? Someone help me out with a link please?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Veteran Gate?

    The wife and I were watching a movie. Did I miss Cryptic's usual "it's friday so let's make an announcement and [censored] everyone on the forums for the entire weekend" announcement?

    Edit: Ok, I checked the dev tracker and didn't find any Vet Reward announcements. Also nothing on the main website. Am I just being an idiot and missing the obvious? Someone help me out with a link please?

    they may be testing auto ban again ! who knows?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Thanks for the link Tendel.

    Yeah, I saw the original thread about the email a few days ago, even though I didn't get it myself. Just checked my spam folder too, I guess that I don't rate high enough on Cryptic's ladder to receive an email.

    However, some of the posts about this issue had more info than what I'd seen in that thread about the email, hence my question about Cryptic's standard Friday announcement.

    Anyway, thanks again for the info.
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