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Make The Captain's Table "Fully Functional" (For Both Lifers & Vets)

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Now that The Captain's Table will be getting less exclusive and become more of a hub for more players, Cryptic should act to make sure that it is utilized more than it currently is, and to motivate people to stay subscribed so they can gain access to a more meaningful TCT.

Specifically, it should receive all the amenities that it currently lacks but are included in Earth Spacedock. Specifically, TCT doesn't have boff trainers or exploration mark vendors. Since TCT is lacking those things, not many people go there anymore. Loyal monthly veterans deserve better than to be handed the keys to a ghost town.

Since we want people to be excited about their well-earned veteran rewards, let's all convince Cryptic to make TCT every bit as useful and functional as Spacedock, so it's a draw to subscribers who wish to have their veteran rewards be more useful. :)
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    edit: nvm

    Reading is fun-da-mental!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Don't forget the ability to customize a ship's appearance. We can select a ship from there, but there's no "ship tailor" NPC.

    Oh, and the tailor we have to customize our uniforms does not have any kind of lighting for the character preview.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I PROTEST AGAINST THE CAPTAINS TABLE VETERANS REWARD. NO NON-LIFER SHOULD BE IN OUR JOINT! I protest against cryptic and will cancel my account as will many others I know and do a huge campain against companies who use exclusives for lifetime subscribers as bait for new players. or old ones.

    Its ripping us off, its lies, and false advertisement.

    SHAME ON YOU CRYPTIC.

    So long as I'm a player, there will be NO normal players in OUR lifetime sub station!!!!!!

    I suggest that cryptic build a new base, just for the veterans.. Lifers included.. But that the PROMISED SANCUTARY OF CAPTAINS CHAIR REMAIN JUST OURS.. IT WAS PROMISED..

    Wake up cryptic.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Imperius wrote: »
    I PROTEST AGAINST THE CAPTAINS TABLE VETERANS REWARD. NO NON-LIFER SHOULD BE IN OUR JOINT! I protest against cryptic and will cancel my account as will many others I know and do a huge campain against companies who use exclusives for lifetime subscribers as bait for new players. or old ones.

    Its ripping us off, its lies, and false advertisement.

    SHAME ON YOU CRYPTIC.

    So long as I'm a player, there will be NO normal players in OUR lifetime sub station!!!!!!

    I suggest that cryptic build a new base, just for the veterans.. Lifers included.. But that the PROMISED SANCUTARY OF CAPTAINS CHAIR REMAIN JUST OURS.. IT WAS PROMISED..

    Wake up cryptic.

    Yeah, that attitude is exactly what we need. :rolleyes:

    As a lifer, I'm pleased that vets will be getting some of the stuff that we do, because now it means there's more of us in the same boat. We care about the game, we're in it for the long haul, and we can work together on initiatives like this thread, to make TCT useful for all of us. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I agree with you OP. Everything available in the game should be available for purchase. They could even add in a transwarp portal to any other station in the game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Skylan wrote:
    I agree with you OP. Everything available in the game should be available for purchase. They could even add in a transwarp portal to any other station in the game.

    Even allowing us to use our normal Transwarp ability to go to any Starbase would be a step in the right direction. There's nothing interesting or appealing to sector space at all. In some other MMOs the world that you get to travel is fun and interesting and dangerous, but in STO you just have to watch an Excel spreadsheet fly past for ten minutes between missions. :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I'm glad the Captain's Table is going to be available for veterans of the game!

    I do, however, think Cryptic should move the entrance out of Sol, and give it an entry point directly from sector space.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Imperius wrote: »
    I PROTEST AGAINST THE CAPTAINS TABLE VETERANS REWARD. NO NON-LIFER SHOULD BE IN OUR JOINT! I protest against cryptic and will cancel my account as will many others I know and do a huge campain against companies who use exclusives for lifetime subscribers as bait for new players. or old ones.

    Its ripping us off, its lies, and false advertisement.

    SHAME ON YOU CRYPTIC.

    So long as I'm a player, there will be NO normal players in OUR lifetime sub station!!!!!!

    I suggest that cryptic build a new base, just for the veterans.. Lifers included.. But that the PROMISED SANCUTARY OF CAPTAINS CHAIR REMAIN JUST OURS.. IT WAS PROMISED..

    Wake up cryptic.

    I'm not sure if I should take your post seriously or not. You seem to have a valid concern but your use of caps lock throws me off and screams "troll" or "all eyes on me, I'm self important".

    But I will rebuttal in a cordial manner. First, they have to have been with the game for 400 days (about 1 year and 1 month). While it seems a little low personally, I don't see why this shouldn't be a valid vet reward as by that time 1) The Captain's Table might very well be completely dead and 2) They will have put in almost as much money as lifers did up front.

    It isn't lies (unless you can provide a link to a page where Cryptic said it would be exclusive) and certainly not false advertising.

    Saying that so long as you are a player that there will be no non-lifers there holds no water unless you have power over Cryptic marketing or dev team or programming. You can say you'll quit over it but really, rage quitting over something so miniscule would just make you look very childish by most people's standards.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I am ALL FOR a TCT access Vet reward at 400 days.

    I do however insist it a) become fully functional, and b) become accessible from the bridge, as was given in the book.

    As someone who took a chance and invested in this game EARLY and OFTEN (double lifer here, both CO and STO, both when they were still in Beta), I *do* want to remain unique in some way, and recognized/rewarded for my faith and my willingness to take a chance on Cryptic. But the table is not something we asked for, and not something we were promised, and as such, not something I am concerned about losing.

    If you want to give them Borg, fine, but do so in a manner which still sets us apart.

    If you want to give them MU, fine, but try to keep the "Spock" MU top sacred. They can have the Kirk one (seeing as I'll get it too)

    If the latecomer Lifers get the title, thats fine too.

    Just set us apart, as promised, and fairly, in some fashion. But demanding TCT be Lifer only is silly - we didn't ask for it, we didn't think we were getting it, not at first. Open it up, thats fine. Make it useful, though.

    Every terminal, every vendor, every purchasable item, every function on every other station, in one place. Maybe reserve the "door appears" bridge/captain's chambers bit for the lifers, that would be nice, but not necessary.


    Not all blue names are against it. Particularly those of us who became blue-names for the betterment of the game, not because of an inflated sense of self-worth and self-centric demand.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    How we (Lifers) should get access to it:
    The bar appears to exist in another dimension because its door can appear anywhere around the galaxy, and it is visible only to captains. This is corroborated by the fact that the bar door could not be seen by Tom Paris when he was on an away mission with Captain Janeway; it appeared to the young M'k'n'zy on the planet Xenex, and even to Captain E.J. Smith of the RMS Titanic while aboard his vessel.
    http://memory-alpha.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_The_Captain's_Table
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Look, the whole thing is just a trick to get that Pakled captain Nein Numbskull and Lando close to the captain's table. Palpatine assures me that the Captain's Table IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL.

    It's a trap.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    "It isn't lies (unless you can provide a link to a page where Cryptic said it would be exclusive) and certainly not false advertising."

    http://startrekonline.com/node/1401

    The Captain's Table - A special area exclusive to lifetime subscribers. See below to learn how to claim this perk.

    EXCLUSIVE.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I'm underwhelmed with the Captain's Table as it exists. I'd love to see it fleshed out, and I have no problem with access to it becoming a vet reward.

    It might be interesting to see an iconic Captain there from time to time, telling a story - just have a Kirk bot telling a tale about the first time he met Carol Marcus, as an example. Not particularly functional, but adds a lot to the atmosphere.

    I've read some of the bio's that folks have for their characters, so there's a segment of the player base that likes to write about their toon. Perhaps the writer enthusiasts could email a tale to a console on the Captain's Table, where others could read it? After all, in the books, the only payment for coming aboard was to tell a tale...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Imperius wrote: »
    "It isn't lies (unless you can provide a link to a page where Cryptic said it would be exclusive) and certainly not false advertising."

    http://startrekonline.com/node/1401

    The Captain's Table - A special area exclusive to lifetime subscribers. See below to learn how to claim this perk.

    EXCLUSIVE.

    Exclusive for now doesn't mean exclusive forever.

    For example, most films are released exclusively to theaters.

    They they go to DVD/video release.

    That said, everyone in your anti-non-lifer thread stood against you. Let it rest! :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Personally, the captains table would be more worthwhile if it was more like it is in baldur's gate 2. You can zone into it from anywhere
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Staran wrote: »
    Personally, the captains table would be more worthwhile if it was more like it is in baldur's gate 2. You can zone into it from anywhere

    The comparison doesn't work. The Captain's Table is based on a bar in a series of star trek books.

    It's a bar. That's all it is. And is supposed to be.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    superchum wrote: »
    The comparison doesn't work. The Captain's Table is based on a bar in a series of star trek books.

    It's a bar. That's all it is. And is supposed to be.

    But you could get to it from anywhere...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Imperius wrote: »
    I PROTEST AGAINST THE CAPTAINS TABLE VETERANS REWARD. NO NON-LIFER SHOULD BE IN OUR JOINT! I protest against cryptic and will cancel my account as will many others I know and do a huge campain against companies who use exclusives for lifetime subscribers as bait for new players. or old ones.

    Its ripping us off, its lies, and false advertisement.

    SHAME ON YOU CRYPTIC.

    So long as I'm a player, there will be NO normal players in OUR lifetime sub station!!!!!!

    I suggest that cryptic build a new base, just for the veterans.. Lifers included.. But that the PROMISED SANCUTARY OF CAPTAINS CHAIR REMAIN JUST OURS.. IT WAS PROMISED..

    Wake up cryptic.

    Um you can't cancel a life time sub or get a refund. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I think making the Captain's Table more functional is a great idea. I'll sign that petition. Pass me the clipboard.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    If they make it functional, I may actually care enough to want it to myself... ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Does Cryptic realize that no one is going to spring for a Lifetime Subscription if every attached Exclusive is available at a fraction of the price via the C-Store? Do they realize that no monthly subscriber is going to hang around for 400 days just to hang with us 'cool kids' as it were? Additionally, they had better mean 400 consecutive subscribed days and not...played 30 days, quit, and logged back on 370+ days later. I don't want the 'Where is Sulu' type of player in The Captains Table with me.

    On a more 'up note' if The Captains Table had all the amenities of Earthdock it would become a social hub for Lifers and Veterans. We might be able to hangout with ST fans while we play and not be bothered with those players with very little interest in discussing anything except where an NPC is, where they get ships, or telling intelligent conversationalists that all non-game discussion belongs in private channels or outside of 'an MMO.'
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Does Cryptic realize that no one is going to spring for a Lifetime Subscription if every attached Exclusive is available at a fraction of the price via the C-Store? Do they realize that no monthly subscriber is going to hang around for 400 days just to hang with us 'cool kids' as it were? Additionally, they had better mean 400 consecutive subscribed days and not...played 30 days, quit, and logged back on 370+ days later. I don't want the 'Where is Sulu' type of player in The Captains Table with me.

    On a more 'up note' if The Captains Table had all the amenities of Earthdock it would become a social hub for Lifers and Veterans. We might be able to hangout with ST fans while we play and not be bothered with those players with very little interest in discussing anything except where an NPC is, where they get ships, or telling intelligent conversationalists that all non-game discussion belongs in private channels or outside of 'an MMO.'

    Look, ma, I can color, bold, and italic my text too!!1one!one1!


    The Captains table is for one thing. And one thing only.

    Ironically asking where Sulu is.

    That is it. :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I'd rather see it left with limited functionality and accessible from my ship, from anywhere.

    Full functionality means it becomes a replacement for SB1 etc. and separates vets from the community. Whereas accessing it from your ship fits the lore behind it better and gives it an alternate, convenience based functionality as a place to do some basic vendoring and exchange work but keeps you going back to SB1/DS9/Omega Fleet for everything important.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    I'd rather see it left with limited functionality and accessible from my ship, from anywhere.

    Full functionality means it becomes a replacement for SB1 etc. and separates vets from the community. Whereas accessing it from your ship fits the lore behind it better and gives it an alternate, convenience based functionality as a place to do some basic vendoring and exchange work but keeps you going back to SB1/DS9/Omega Fleet for everything important.

    This.

    Usable ship interiors, combined with some sort of portal to CT, would be awesome. It's still two loading screens away from any location. More or less comparable with flying to the nearest starbase, timewise!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Imperius wrote: »
    "It isn't lies (unless you can provide a link to a page where Cryptic said it would be exclusive) and certainly not false advertising."

    http://startrekonline.com/node/1401

    The Captain's Table - A special area exclusive to lifetime subscribers. See below to learn how to claim this perk.

    EXCLUSIVE.

    I said it once I'll say it again "Club Exclusive doesn't mean Empty Club" IMHO the vet rewards are fair and they deserve it.

    Back on topic
    /signed, I would like to see more functionality at the Captains Table
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    evilsmoo wrote: »

    Look, ma, I can color, bold, and italic my text too!!1one!one1!
    :cool:

    This is just how I have typed on these Forums for about two years. Nothing special about it really, I just like the way it looks.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Does Cryptic realize that no one is going to spring for a Lifetime Subscription if every attached Exclusive is available at a fraction of the price via the C-Store? Do they realize that no monthly subscriber is going to hang around for 400 days just to hang with us 'cool kids' as it were? Additionally, they had better mean 400 consecutive subscribed days and not...played 30 days, quit, and logged back on 370+ days later. I don't want the 'Where is Sulu' type of player in The Captains Table with me.

    On a more 'up note' if The Captains Table had all the amenities of Earthdock it would become a social hub for Lifers and Veterans. We might be able to hangout with ST fans while we play and not be bothered with those players with very little interest in discussing anything except where an NPC is, where they get ships, or telling intelligent conversationalists that all non-game discussion belongs in private channels or outside of 'an MMO.'

    That may in fact be the point, as monthly subs generate constant income, whereas lifetime subs eventually play for free. If everyone currently playing this game had a lifetime sub, and everyone that picks it up in the future bought a lifetime sub, then the game would eventually die because they are no longer making money from it. It does not mean 400 *consecutive* subscribed days, it means 400 *total* subscribed days. If people want to quit after a month and continue paying for a year afterwards, they are stupid.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    wrote:
    I'm glad the Captain's Table is going to be available for veterans of the game!

    I do, however, think Cryptic should move the entrance out of Sol, and give it an entry point directly from sector space.
    This is an idea I had been tossing around but never could fully...conceptualize well enough in words. So, I'll do my best. Anyway, I'd love it if they moved the captain's table to where Drozana station is now. Drozana is just a cheaper looking version of the Table; it lacks the same things the table lacks. Why not replace Drozana with the Table, and then add an additional room to the club that is "lifer/veteran only." Lifers/Veterans get their own space, the entrance to captain's table gets moved OUT of Sol and Qo'nos (which is my biggest problem with the place, actually), and then it actually gets used by people because, aside from one "VIP Lounge," the whole place is open to anyone. Making places "members only" just means that it'll rarely get used once the initial shininess is gone. Besides, in a year, everyone will have access to the table anyway (except those who hadn't been playing long enough by then, but then it's only a matter of time.) I think Captain's Table would be a lot more immersive than Drozana any day. But, that's just my idea.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Imperius wrote: »
    I PROTEST AGAINST THE CAPTAINS TABLE VETERANS REWARD. NO NON-LIFER SHOULD BE IN OUR JOINT! I protest against cryptic and will cancel my account as will many others I know and do a huge campain against companies who use exclusives for lifetime subscribers as bait for new players. or old ones.

    Its ripping us off, its lies, and false advertisement.

    SHAME ON YOU CRYPTIC.

    So long as I'm a player, there will be NO normal players in OUR lifetime sub station!!!!!!

    I suggest that cryptic build a new base, just for the veterans.. Lifers included.. But that the PROMISED SANCUTARY OF CAPTAINS CHAIR REMAIN JUST OURS.. IT WAS PROMISED..

    Wake up cryptic.

    Since everyone was nice, I will be mean,

    I have a hand grenade, a splintery stick, and your head, guess where I want you to shove them?

    Get off your damn I am better then everyone high horse, or at least pretend that your ego does not rival the collective ego of every dictator over the last 40 years.

    BTW: Getting angry over digital art which was underused because few people had access to it? You need serious perspective.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    It would seem that there's a great degree of support for the idea of giving TCT more functionality. Can we get a Dev to take a look at this? Now it's both lifers and vets who want this. :)
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