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Deep space Science vessels need a None option for the Secondary array

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The Deep Space Sci vessels (Destiney, trident, nimbus, Oracle) need a "none" option for the secondary array.

pretty straight forward request,
the SCience Recon Vessels have a "none option for their "mission pod" ao i don't see how this is any different.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    AndyX wrote: »
    The Deep Space Sci vessels (Destiney, trident, nimbus, Oracle) need a "none" option for the secondary array.

    pretty straight forward request,
    the SCience Recon Vessels have a "none option for their "mission pod" ao i don't see how this is any different.

    Mission pod is non-essential, the second array is. This was probably a CBS decision and not a Cryptic decision...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Popkornn wrote:
    Mission pod is non-essential, the second array is. This was probably a CBS decision and not a Cryptic decision...

    what about Secondary means essential?
    the ship has a primary deflector array and it uses that for all anomaly scanning. as implied the secondary array is just a backup and pretty much useless in the game, aside for adding or subtracting from the ship's looks depending on your point of view.

    it was probably not included as an option as not to offend the artist who came up with the ship design(s) or maybe this idea just had not occured to cryptic.

    i doubt CBS had any influence over a Startrek ship that never once appeared in an actual episode of startrek.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Dear god, yes, please let us turn the damn thing off. Or at LEAST give us some ability to shorten the pylon between the pod and bottom of the ship. Ever time I jump in mine I am reminded of a seaplane. Actually, I think the ship models are pretty sharp, save that one 'feature'.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I love the secondary array. :)
    Especially the Oracle one because it reminds me of the Excelsior's secondary hull (except it doesn't fit properly on anything other than the Oracle saucer).

    But if people want to turn it off completely, it should be an option.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    AndyX wrote: »
    i doubt CBS had any influence over a Startrek ship that never once appeared in an actual episode of startrek.

    The nomad variant that was going to be released yesterday had to be scrapped and remade as the maelstrom because CBS didn't like it...


    There was a Devpost by Dstahl stating they had to redo all the work because CBS rejected their finished product...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    dstahl wrote: »
    CBS had some issues with the Nomad and asked for a redesign - so it had to be pushed out. It is being replaced by the Maelstrom (which is ready to go).


    here is the devpost from yesterday...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    still the ability to turn it off, if the player didn't want it on their ship, would be a nice touch
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Yeah, those damn pods sticking down from the bottom of science vessels bothers the hell out of me. Nowhere in Star Trek do you see a design like that on a Federation ship. :mad:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I'd love a "none" option, or at least another pod option that is tucked up into the hull rather than stuck way down on a pylon.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I are agreeant.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Clawdius wrote:
    I are agreeant.

    Your avatar makes you look like a part of Team Jacob. :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    they should add a pylon option that brings the pod closer to the bottom of the hull
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    AndyX wrote: »
    i doubt CBS had any influence over a Startrek ship that never once appeared in an actual episode of startrek.

    CBS has approval authority for anything and everything that appears in the game. That includes canonical and non-canonical ships.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    A ships modeler posted that the request has been noted. But the 'power that be' has said no. And adding a 'None' option wouldn't be the easier thing to do. The height of the ship models and center of gravity seem to have been taken into account for the rolling that ships do when turning. Unless the models were realigned if the secondary array is removed, the ships would look very unrealistic when turning.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I always thought the underslung array was the deflector dish. As the deflector is usually located on the secondary hull and the secondary array is located on the primary hull/saucer.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    fuzun wrote: »
    CBS has approval authority for anything and everything that appears in the game. That includes canonical and non-canonical ships.

    This is true.

    It is also the reason for the Nomad skin being pushed back.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    honestly i'd prefer my ship not to have it's "truck nuts" showing,
    give me a "none" option PLZ
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    either a "none" option or a no-pylon option for it so it's tucked closer to the hull would be cool. i'm also interested in a "non" option for the weird "plate" on top of the fleet escorts.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited May 2010
    Yeah, those damn pods sticking down from the bottom of science vessels bothers the hell out of me. Nowhere in Star Trek do you see a design like that on a Federation ship. :mad:

    Well, at least in certain configurations the DSSVs seem to be inspired by the Oberth-class.

    Also reading that article, it would seem that Voyager's nigh-omnipotent shields were not the only canon inspiration for science ships relying primarily on shields.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    Maybe cryptic could chnge this so we have a second option instead of a secondary array, we could get a third warp nacelle instead if we wanted. the really long one, (oracle i wanna say) already looks alot like one just missing the red bussard collector.

    the option of selecting a secondary array would still be there if you really wanted it, this would just be another option if the player didn't want the standard "truck nuts"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    /signed for the NONE option....for all the ship types.... more customizations please.....


    and I'm NOT talking about c-store wallet-TRIBBLE.



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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    This is done. Try it out on Tribble.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited July 2010
    is it? awesome! i'll have to go take a look
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