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SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited April 2010 in PvP Gameplay
The title says it all. I am so tired of hearing people yell, swear and accuse each other of exploiting, cheating, fighting and hurling insults between sides in open zone chat during pvp matches.

I pay to enjoy the game, not listen to people cry cause they lose and then try to blame the other side, fight, swear and argue the entire match.. Here is why I am so frustrated by this.

Last night I jumped on for some ground pvp action. There was one individual I encountered over and over in various ground pvp matches on the fed side that was absolutely atrocious. I will leave the individuals name out of it but I am sure many have encountered this person before with different names.. I will give ya a big hint though, The name stars with Y....

Anyway since the patch, episode 1 the number of available pvp ques have been reduced. Even far more so for ground pvp matches. This is why I came up against the same person all night long.. Every single match the moment this person entered and died, sometimes even before dying, would start yelling, cursing, accusing the other side of cheating, exploiting, taunting, starting fights in every single match, every single time, non stop all night long..

Example, the said individual instead of sticking with their team would charge a group of us every time. This fed would then try to kill whomever they faced with a bat'leh. Naturally when 2 or more of us using good team work would start using melee or other methods to knock the person back we would instantly get accused of exploiting..

The individual in question would always start with accusing one or more individuals of exploiting rifle butt. Hello you broke from your teamates and charged head long into a group of us every time.. Even when i tried defending the person being attacked, hello i hit you with telekineis from behind, an 18 foot knock back, it wouldn't matter. The cursing attacks would continue.

Other insults the person would hurl, "Stay the fk off the spawn points" "You people are all a holes, have to cheat, exploit, abuse bugs to win". I could spend all afternoon listing the insults and profanity this person started in every single match.. Even when trying to use reason it still didn't matter.

Trying to explain there are no set spawn points, they are random in ground matches and it's not our fault cryptic uses such a poor respawn method. You die and often times you spawn right back in the same area, surrounded by enemies. In other occasions just a few feet behind them. In this case instead of the person trying to run in a different direction to find a way to group up, they would charge right back in. Then yell at us for camping spawn points..

Anyway this one person is the poster child for Disabling cross communications between the two sides. Yes i know there is an ignore option and you can simply ignore the person. However you can still see the arguments, profanity and fighting being hurled back by one of your own team mates. Not to mention this person is just one example. I would have to ignore half the player base on both sides..

There are many examples of games disabling cross communication, open zone chat and tells between the two sides. It's absolutely wonderful to just enjoy a night of fun gaming with teamates and not having to listen to each side fighting, cursing, taunting, and all the profanity...

Let an old man enjoy the game in peace... = ).
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    heres an idea for you, turn off zone chat.


    long wall of text concealing a whine... tl:dr
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Turning off zone chat is a bad response. I or other people shouldn't have to be the ones penalized for the actions of other people. Not everyone on the same side joins the same teams. I have ran into matches where everyone is on the same team and others stay in their own little team of friends.

    Why should one side have every available method of communication cut off from them due to the actions of others.. That is poor advice i'm afraid.. Disable cross communication. Leave it in pve, but there it has no use in pvp in the first place other than just the two sides griefing and taunting one another anyway. I have never encountered any match where both sides have used open chat to engage in friendly conversation..

    In every case it's always bragging, taunting, insulting, hurling profanity, or fighting...

    Disable it, it has no use other than promoting recidivism.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Its called the ignore button. Use it. Use it liberally.

    I've ignored my own teammates before because they were jerks, and I've certainly ignored plenty of the other side too.

    If you don't use the ignore feature, then you can still get hate tells or emails even. And, that's all that removing the chat channels would do, they would just take their anger and immaturity to the private channels, so your proposal would in fact solve nothing.

    Just use the ignore feature.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Well, the way I see it, you have two options:

    1) play wow
    2) grow a pair
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    2) grow a pair

    I fail to see what rolling an alt will do for him. Having two federation characters to choose from doesn't do anything since he still has to queue up in PVP like everyone else.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    superchum wrote: »
    I fail to see what rolling an alt will do for him. Having two federation characters to choose from doesn't do anything since he still has to queue up in PVP like everyone else.

    chum,

    It's okay. You don't have to defend reply's like that. I realize there are ignorant people playing every game and responses like that are expected.. Some individuals just lack the intelligence for extemporaneous formulation of thought..


    fox,

    I didn't just mean zone chat.. I mean all methods of cross communication.. There are several games I used to play, one in particular, World War II on line, the opposing sides can't communicate in any fashion.. They can't communicate in open chat, zone chat, yells, etc. If they try to it just comes across as garbled letters and words. They can't send tells back and forth to members of the opposing side, they can only send tells to people on their side, nor can they create any other means of private communication between the sides..

    Except for the idiot that creates an alt just to jump to the other side and start trouble. Then you can ignore that person. It works beautifully..
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    No, please don't get rid of cross communication. I am sick and tired of MMOs that insist that the only way you're allowed to interact with half the people in the game is by shooting at them. That's total TRIBBLE. The only game where it wasn't TRIBBLE was DAoC and it only wasn't TRIBBLE there because every realm had its completely seperate playfield.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Rothnang wrote:
    No, please don't get rid of cross communication. I am sick and tired of MMOs that insist that the only way you're allowed to interact with half the people in the game is by shooting at them. That's total TRIBBLE. The only game where it wasn't TRIBBLE was DAoC and it only wasn't TRIBBLE there because every realm had its completely seperate playfield.

    This. terrible idea.

    Yeah there's some abusive idiots out there, but lets face it they're both sides of the fence.

    There are people I know and respect and genuinely enjoy talking to on both sides. Not to mention my fleet has both Klingon and Federation sides, cross communication between the two is a huge bonus.

    If someones being a numpty just ignore em.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I hear ya there Kelmvor.

    Sadly though, it isn't just Federation, I've had my own stint with Klingon players. The best I can suggest is to use the ignore button, sadly turning off cross-communications won't work overly to well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Kelmvor wrote:
    chum,

    It's okay. You don't have to defend reply's like that. I realize there are ignorant people playing every game and responses like that are expected.. Some individuals just lack the intelligence for extemporaneous formulation of thought..

    It's funny when people try to use big words to look smart, use them wrong, and then have grammatical and spelling mistakes littering their post. Perhaps you meant I am unable to write extemporaneously. Of course that's TRIBBLE considering you were responding to something I had written. Or do you think I created massive advance plans for that post?

    Sorry chump, learn to live with it because games that turn it off blow TRIBBLE. Stop being so dumb and people will stop making fun of you so much.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    superchum wrote: »
    I fail to see what rolling an alt will do for him. Having two federation characters to choose from doesn't do anything since he still has to queue up in PVP like everyone else.

    Ummmm when he said "grow a pair" he didn't mean roll an alt....he meant it as Man up, allow your ********s to descend...etc.:eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    It's funny when people try to use big words to look smart, use them wrong, and then have grammatical and spelling mistakes littering their post. Perhaps you meant I am unable to write extemporaneously. Of course that's TRIBBLE considering you were responding to something I had written. Or do you think I created massive advance plans for that post?

    Sorry chump, learn to live with it because games that turn it off blow TRIBBLE. Stop being so dumb and people will stop making fun of you so much.

    Extemporaneous - composed, uttered, or performed on the spur of the moment.. 2. carefully prepared without the use of notes or text..


    What is even funnier then being accused of using words to look smart is the accuser not actually knowing the definition of the word. Extemporaneous means far more than just writing, to be a good writer you have to think extemporaneously first, wink. As for spelling an grammatical errors, that is what 2nd drafts and publicists are for. Now, since i didn't make this post to get into petty arguments, you will be ignored in the future... Have a wonderful day.. Keep the personal attacks coming though. Those that do so are perfect examples of why cross communication should be removed..

    Big...

    I understand what your saying. There are other means of cross communicating between the fleets. I too am a member of a fleet containing one on either side.. We created a sub channel, gave it a name and communicate that way..
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Kelmvor wrote:
    I will leave the individuals name out of it but I am sure many have encountered this person before with different names.. I will give ya a big hint though, The name stars with Y....

    I know exactly who you're talking about. The woman even threatened to report me for being seductive and wearing pyramid earings.

    I re-read your post and couldn't stop laughing at how awful she plays. C'mon it's a riot!

    But you have to admit, it's fun to beat them up when they're using a Bat'leth without any skill at all.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Kelmvor wrote:
    Big...

    I understand what your saying. There are other means of cross communicating between the fleets. I too am a member of a fleet containing one on either side.. We created a sub channel, gave it a name and communicate that way..


    Which is kinda what I meant, if you meant just in PvP/zone then I obviously misread your post ^^
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Kelmvor wrote:
    Extemporaneous - composed, uttered, or performed on the spur of the moment.. 2. carefully prepared without the use of notes or text..


    What is even funnier then being accused of using words to look smart is the accuser not actually knowing the definition of the word. Extemporaneous means far more than just writing, to be a good writer you have to think extemporaneously first, wink. As for spelling an grammatical errors, that is what 2nd drafts and publicists are for. Now, since i didn't make this post to get into petty arguments, you will be ignored in the future... Have a wonderful day.. Keep the personal attacks coming though. Those that do so are perfect examples of why cross communication should be removed..

    You're TRIBBLE and trying pitifully to flail around and distract everyone from your ridiculous mistake that you pulled trying to look smart.

    I'm not sure why you posted a definition that proves me right and then tried to say it did the opposite. You are incredibly foolish and clearly should not be listened to.

    hint: planning thought is impossible (planning IS thought), therefore "extemporaneous thought" is by definition redundant. If you actually understood english, you'd know that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Kelmvor wrote:
    The title says it all. I am so tired of hearing people yell, swear and accuse each other of exploiting, cheating, fighting and hurling insults between sides in open zone chat during pvp matches.

    #1. Turn on profanity filter.

    #2. Use the ignore function.


    There I solved your problem without you cramming your warped views of MMO gaming down everyone's throat.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Kelmvor wrote:
    Extemporaneous - composed, uttered, or performed on the spur of the moment.. 2. carefully prepared without the use of notes or text..


    What is even funnier then being accused of using words to look smart is the accuser not actually knowing the definition of the word. Extemporaneous means far more than just writing, to be a good writer you have to think extemporaneously first, wink. As for spelling an grammatical errors, that is what 2nd drafts and publicists are for. Now, since i didn't make this post to get into petty arguments, you will be ignored in the future... Have a wonderful day.. Keep the personal attacks coming though. Those that do so are perfect examples of why cross communication should be removed..

    Big...

    I understand what your saying. There are other means of cross communicating between the fleets. I too am a member of a fleet containing one on either side.. We created a sub channel, gave it a name and communicate that way..

    I read this and I find you acting like the people in PvP? What is up with this. Turning off the communications between Klingon's and the Federation would be wrong. It takes you back to world of warcraft where you can't communicate with the Horde. How exciting.

    Some people I watch get all frustrated with the pvp. A lot of times they are going on and on just like you are in this post. Sometimes I will cut in with some BS just to drag you around by your nose just like I am now.

    I don't know, you just come across like a real pvp'er ****ed at some Klingon or Fed for some mistake you made.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ok the feds and kling had a treaty so there was open communication right....
    Wellllllllll there nolonger treaty and the klings are starting war so limited communication makes sense klingons that work and talk to the fed would be considered traiter and like worf not allowed back till another house votes them back and so for pluss kling and fed being able to talk makes for easy spying klingon player on a fed character sits in pvp and relays locations strat and the like it should be limited for a lot of reasons ty for reading
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    dogpire wrote:
    Ok the feds and kling had a treaty so there was open communication right....
    Wellllllllll there nolonger treaty and the klings are starting war so limited communication makes sense klingons that work and talk to the fed would be considered traiter and like worf not allowed back till another house votes them back and so for pluss kling and fed being able to talk makes for easy spying klingon player on a fed character sits in pvp and relays locations strat and the like it should be limited for a lot of reasons ty for reading

    Never bring Canon thinking into a PvP gameplay forum.

    The only canon we'll stand for has a 3rd N
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Kelmvor wrote:

    fox,

    I didn't just mean zone chat.. I mean all methods of cross communication.. There are several games I used to play, one in particular, World War II on line, the opposing sides can't communicate in any fashion.. They can't communicate in open chat, zone chat, yells, etc. If they try to it just comes across as garbled letters and words. They can't send tells back and forth to members of the opposing side, they can only send tells to people on their side, nor can they create any other means of private communication between the sides..

    Except for the idiot that creates an alt just to jump to the other side and start trouble. Then you can ignore that person. It works beautifully..


    Use the ignore feature, it does what you want it to. There is no reason to restrict communication at all with the ignore feature in place. You ignore who you need to, while everyone else is worth talking to, or at least tolerable.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I understand the frustration but I disagree with clicking the nuke button on the communication features. Tactical strikes on the offending player(s) are better, in my opinion. Sometimes cross communication is quite helpful and informative so losing it just doesn't feel right to me.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I agree with OP. its like war hammer and daoc. not being able to understand the other realm makes them seem more foreign. the chat is only used for flames and trash talk/ zone chat should be for your team only.

    im not here to be friends with them, im here to kill them. what am i meant to talk about a diplomatic solution before we fight? xcross realm chat does not help game in anyway. but it does hurt it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I disagree... even though, I believe, I had the displeasure of experiencing the player the OP mentioned just last night.

    Trash talking has been around in MMOs since the beginning. Deal. We already have the tools to remove it from our sight and don't need more dev interference in "unnatural" game mechanics. There is also another tool that has not been mentioned: player justice. Quite simply and without even saying it out loud, the offending trash talker became our primary target and focus fired into dirt nap mode instantly whenever he showed his face. If they had been able, I'm sure his own team would have helped.

    All in all, I have to say that this game contains the friendliest, most mature player base I have seen in any MMO. I have had way more pleasant, helpful and humorous exchanges between factions than negative. It would also suck if I was not able to "tip my hat" when I get pwned or recognize superior game play or sportsmanship.

    Anyway, disabling cross faction talk doesn't stop trash talking. Anyone who has played WoW knows this to be true. The trash talkers will still talk trash no matter what... but instead of targeting the opposition they will, instead, target their own side with their vitriol.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I will give ya a big hint though, The name stars with Y....


    OMG my name starts with a Y......
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Yyrd wrote: »
    OMG my name starts with a Y......

    BURN THE WITCH
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I hated not being able to communicate with the Horde in WoW. There were actually some nice people on the other side...

    I have more than one Fed on my friends list from meeting them in PvP.

    This STO community is fairly polite in PvP compared to other games I've played. There's not the same hatred and rage that's associated with many other games. Mostly just "Nerf VM and SNB!!" which is pretty harmless.

    I think disabling cross-communication would be a very bad idea. Our community is small enough as it is let's keep all the communication we can get.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I made my best in-game friends through PvP zone chat.
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