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SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited April 2010 in PvP Gameplay
champ7442 wrote: »
I think they need to add more Pve to the nuetral zone for the klingons. Then let the fed enter the maps as added defense(open PvP). the Klingons missions could be daily to destroy postions(PvE&PvP)or other mission on the map in the nuetral zone.the feds daily missions(PvP) could be partol of the zone. These missions could be on the ground & in space.Also put a daily timer on the neutral zone (for control of zone) and start it over every day. Add some new mission in the zone(Klingon PvE) and add more as we go. Some player want open PvP where your wander the sector and atttack the enemy. that is a bad idea . But add some contact signals in the nuetral zone(PvE) and allow both sides in the signals. one sides working the mission; the other side defending the PvE(add goals for both).Add both signals to defend(feds&kling).
I think this could add more content for both sides. And maybe some fleet action in the nuetral zone as well.
If we get our war , the feds are about defense and the klingons are about, all out war.

I also have an idea for the respawn camping problem. Creat beacon that draw power from an enemy shields & weapons when in range(send a message letting the player know whats going on when in range). Player would learn to keep thier disance.

PvP Arenas are becoming boring. Please work on something for open PvP.
Please post your Ideas for PvP here.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    no one has an opinion on Open PvP. Shocked
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    champ7442 wrote: »
    no one has an opinion on Open PvP. Shocked

    I do...we need an open pvp area. I agree.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I think open PvP should not only be in the game, but should be a core part of it.

    You should have the option not to participate, by turning off a PvP flag, but it should be there.

    It would be great to have planetary systems and sections of space as capture points.

    Really can't see much downside to this.... Those who don't want to open PvP don't have to. Those who do, can.

    There is a lot of potential here that is not being tapped.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I think open PvP should not only be in the game, but should be a core part of it.

    You should have the option not to participate, by turning off a PvP flag, but it should be there.

    It would be great to have planetary systems and sections of space as capture points.

    Really can't see much downside to this.... Those who don't want to open PvP don't have to. Those who do, can.

    There is a lot of potential here that is not being tapped.

    Premades would still stomp pugs in open pvp, then you'd still be crying!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Yes lots of ppl are interested in Open PVP. There's been a number of threads about it such as this one:

    http://forums.startrekonline.com/showthread.php?t=149122
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Signed, I would love to see open pvp, on a planet. P'jem would be cool.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Thats what i am talking about. the more ideas we have the more likely we will see some open PvP in the future and i understand that it will take time. As someone said there is so much potential. It would be some much more fun then the arena play. I Play my dailies but i would spend more time playing open PvP. I enjoyed the PvE But now what(and yes i help many people most days). Open PvP would give us something to do everyday. The link had some good ideas.,take a look. More ideas please. thanks for your post so far.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Aelife wrote:
    Premades would still stomp pugs in open pvp, then you'd still be crying!

    Unless there was a huge shift in numbers you would not need a premade to kill the KDF. If as some want they have static capture bases dot'd about, and god forbid those have an ingame bonus (10% extra xp or credits etc you get the picture) as soon as one KDF player decloaked or a grp tried to capture it within moments open pvp starved Fed players would be warping in from everywhere an it would soon be 200-1.

    All that will happen at best is a few pve'er get ganked, or a base switches faction at 3am because all the fed players are asleep. If the bases have no in game value at all then it will just be a few solo or low grp'd players getting caught by a cloaked ship so the pilot of it can call them noob.

    I am not saying that this would be a bad thing, if it did cause people to swap sides it coud work really well, i remember in swg entire guilds would opt to swap factions when pvp numbers became to imbalanced because they cared enough to make pvp work, i just dont get a sence that such a move is likely here.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ardept wrote: »
    Unless there was a huge shift in numbers you would not need a premade to kill the KDF. If as some want they have static capture bases dot'd about, and god forbid those have an ingame bonus (10% extra xp or credits etc you get the picture) as soon as one KDF player decloaked or a grp tried to capture it within moments open pvp starved Fed players would be warping in from everywhere an it would soon be 200-1.

    All that will happen at best is a few pve'er get ganked, or a base switches faction at 3am because all the fed players are asleep. If the bases have no in game value at all then it will just be a few solo or low grp'd players getting caught by a cloaked ship so the pilot of it can call them noob.

    I am not saying that this would be a bad thing, if it did cause people to swap sides it coud work really well, i remember in swg entire guilds would opt to swap factions when pvp numbers became to imbalanced because they cared enough to make pvp work, i just dont get a sence that such a move is likely here.

    I see by your quite that Aelif is still trying to be insulting as ever. No shock there.

    That aside, they could have only one planet/system vulnerable a day. And a special event at that location would be going on. Be it a convoy to protect, a base to destroy or even a ground assault. Then at the end of the designated time period, the side that had more wins than losses takes control of the planet. Of course, there would need to be some kind of incentive. This would be maybe a purple item that could be bought with PvP tokens. Like 500 or 1000 of them. Expensive, but only available when a certain planet is captured. This might make players really care about who controls what. If you REALLY want that item... then you had better make sure that X system is captured.

    On a side note, if PvP tokens could be used for this...and they were expensive, then I think it may have an added effect of actually boosting PvP queues. People would want to build up mass amounts of tokens for these items, when they are available.

    Any thoughts?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    a question; open PvP means anyone can join right, with no real "maximum" of players?

    I really do like these territory disputes, but em, Feds outnumber us Klingons 10:1 or something, so how would you correct that?
    Minimum of 20 ships?
    Minimum of 40 ships?

    Will an AI assist the Klngons if they just have 20 ships and the Feds are attacking with 50?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Cryptic simply lack skills to do it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    I see by your quite that Aelif is still trying to be insulting as ever. No shock there.
    Any thoughts?

    actually not at all,

    He mentioned that premades would still beat pug grps, i happen to agree with that assessment for the most part, tho some pugs could be too strong for an average premade, but assuming near equal players then yes i would say premades should win.

    My point was simply that given the number imbalance it will not matter if open pvp allows huge numbers whether the KDF is premade grps or not, they will simply be over run in most cases, a grp can only take so much focus fire before any attempts at defence become meaningless
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ardept wrote: »
    actually not at all,
    Actually he was. I am sure the "Premades would still stomp pugs in open pvp, then you'd still be crying!" comment that was aimed at me was the same as his pages of "QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ" that made as a response to a post I had made so that I put him as the only person on my ignore list. He has a thing about me and every time I post something he TRIES to take a snipe at me.. and fails

    He just seems jaded.

    Now as far as Premades doing well in open PVP. Sure they will. No doubt. But if you had a flag for PVP or to not PVP then it would not matter. Most people flagged would probably be in a group anyway.. traveling war parties. But this is also where a solo klingon could shine. Cloaked a waiting... BOOM.

    Since I am sure that about 99% of the klingon players played rogues on WoW, .. I am sure they are familiar with this tactic.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Actually he was. I am sure the "Premades would still stomp pugs in open pvp, then you'd still be crying!" comment that was aimed at me was the same as his pages of "QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ" that made as a response to a post I had made so that I put him as the only person on my ignore list. He has a thing about me and every time I post something he TRIES to take a snipe at me.. and fails

    He just seems jaded.

    Now as far as Premades doing well in open PVP. Sure they will. No doubt. But if you had a flag for PVP or to not PVP then it would not matter. Most people flagged would probably be in a group anyway.. traveling war parties. But this is also where a solo klingon could shine. Cloaked a waiting... BOOM.

    Since I am sure that about 99% of the klingon players played rogues on WoW, .. I am sure they are familiar with this tactic.

    you said i see by your quote (meaning mine), and actually by my quote you could not see that, however given your clearly taking the moral high ground and not indulging in any sort of TRIBBLE for tat retorts or making any snide comments at all, i cannot see why he would make such comments about a well mannered person such as yourself.

    I have not played wow as it happens, but i am familiar with the cloaked soloist attacking from other games. if this is the only type of pvp you have an interest in i can see why you want open pvp as a core element, so you can find a low lvl BG or commander that you can gank because anything more of a challenge is presumably to much for you. i can only assume his comment that you will still be crying is about as accurate a comment as i am likely to se on these boards
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ardept wrote: »
    you said i see by your quote (meaning mine), and actually by my quote you could not see that, however given your clearly taking the moral high ground and not indulging in any sort of TRIBBLE for tat retorts or making any snide comments at all, i cannot see why he would make such comments about a well mannered person such as yourself.

    I have not played wow as it happens, but i am familiar with the cloaked soloist attacking from other games. if this is the only type of pvp you have an interest in i can see why you want open pvp as a core element, so you can find a low lvl BG or commander that you can gank because anything more of a challenge is presumably to much for you. i can only assume his comment that you will still be crying is about as accurate a comment as i am likely to se on these boards

    Now YOUR taking this personally lol. I never said anything about you. I stated the facts of the situation. So stop with the attack campaign, ok. I was talking about the guy you quoted who I blocked.

    Geez.. people need to relax

    As far as the cloaked thing, that was an actual statement of legitimate tactics that could be played. Nothing here was an insult to you in any way,.. yet you have taken every word as directed to you. I even agreed with your.. and you are mad.

    You need to relax a bit man

    What is it with forum people.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Now YOUR taking this personally lol. I never said anything about you. I stated the facts of the situation. So stop with the attack campaign, ok.

    Geez.. people need to relax

    As far as the cloaked thing, that was an actual statement of legitimate tactics that could be played. Nothing here was an insult to you in any way,.. yet you have taken every word as directed to you.

    You need to relax a bit me.

    What is it with forum people.

    when everyone seems to be taking offece at you, perhaps, and this could be a long shot, the problem could reside in the manner in which you choose to engage people in your posts and just maybe it is you that needs to take a step back. unless you actually think you are not the problem and it is in fact everyone who you come into contact with is just against you for no reason at all.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ardept wrote: »
    when everyone seems to be taking offece at you, perhaps, and this could be a long shot, the problem could reside in the manner in which you choose to engage people in your posts and just maybe it is you that needs to take a step back. unless you actually think you are not the problem and it is in fact everyone who you come into contact with is just against you for no reason at all.

    And you are still at it?

    lol.

    Seriously. How did I insult you?

    Please, tell me.

    I am curious. I said I agreed with you and then said another tactic that might work well for the solo klingon..and you flipped out.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    And you are still at it?

    lol.

    Seriously. How did I insult you?

    Please, tell me.

    I am curious. I said I agreed with you and then said another tactic that might work well for the solo klingon..and you flipped out.

    i think it would be fair to say this post reflects what i mean, and why you continually get on my nerves everytime you address me, normally i skip most of what you write, tell you what lets draw a line under it before it gets out of hand. Well after that last word you will almost certainly need because that is what you're like
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Ardept wrote: »
    i think it would be fair to say this post reflects what i mean, and why you continually get on my nerves everytime you address me, normally i skip most of what you write, tell you what lets draw a line under it before it gets out of hand. Well after that last word you will almost certainly need because that is what you're like

    This has nothing to do with the last word at all. I am honestly curious. You say you skip most of what I write. I am asking an honest question and want an honest response. I was in complete agreement with you in every way. And somehow this upset you.

    I asked a question. You got mad at me for no reason I can see. I agreed with you. So, tell me how I insulted you by agreeing with you? I really don't care if you block me or not, because if this is how you are going to act with somebody who agrees with you,...then I don't want you seeing what I write any more. Seriously.

    So, are you going to tell me?

    I would guess not.

    My guess is that you misread something, got mad about it. Then maybe went over it later and saw that I was in agreement with you. But instead of "manning up" and just saying "oops misread it." you have continued on.

    Well, such is life.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Since I am sure that about 99% of the klingon players played rogues on WoW, .. I am sure they are familiar with this tactic.

    .....Ignorance at its best. Please do everyone a favor and stop posting about PVP when you obviously know very little to nothing about it.
    No need to respond just walk get in your starship and fly back to RP land
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    akumarev wrote:
    .....Ignorance at its best. Please do everyone a favor and stop posting about PVP when you obviously know very little to nothing about it.
    No need to respond just walk get in your starship and fly back to RP land
    .__________>/^\<
    | ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '|__\
    | WAMBULANCE - | i<<
    I_______________|I
    ..""(@)&quot;""""""""(@)&quot;............

    The 99% of rogues play Klingons is a statment on tactics Akumarev. It is the same as the "hide by the harvest node and stab stab stab" Every person I know who played a rogue on WoW has a Klingon as their main now. It is just a playstyle preference.

    I know more about PvP than you believe I do. But nothing I will ever say will convince you otherwise.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    The 99% of rogues play Klingons is a statment on tactics Akamarev. It is the same as the "hide by the harvest node and stab stab stab" Every person I know who played a rogue on WoW has a Klingon as their main now. It is just a playstyle preference.

    I know more about PvP than you believe I do. But nothing I will ever say will convince you otherwise.

    Actually I was a shaman......

    Man imagine a shammy with stealth........

    Then I just drop out of stealth behind them and FRAWWWWSTSHAWWWWWK
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Actually I was a shaman......

    Man imagine a shammy with stealth........

    Then I just drop out of stealth behind them and FRAWWWWSTSHAWWWWWK

    I loved the Shaman class. I think I pretty much played everthing. But my favorite was my DK for Arenas
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited April 2010
    Yes i know that the sides are uneven but cryptic needs to encourage people to play for the Klingon. what if they offered something that can only be acquired by playing an Klingon toon and offer it for your fed or Klingon toons. then more people may join the enemy side. i still think that Klingon can do PvE with the feds entering the maps. the key is grouping and working together. it won't be easy. but do you really want it to be.

    last, the easiest way for some open PvP is enemy contact signals as we know them. (Put them in the neutral zone).enter, play the mission. the enemy enter to stop us. the signal changes to blue or red depending on the side that wins. if it is blue then the fed enter to defend. if it is red then they enter to destroy. and the opposite for the klingons. limiting players by instances. same reward as now for enemy contacts. players level should not matter. The destroying action is destroying all PvE Ships (PvE) . the defending action is PvP, rewarded for number of kill reached, lets say 50. they win. we would need to respawn in different places.
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