Oh and I would also like added: TOS insignia designer! The arrow head insignia we currently have for our TOS uniforms represents the Enterprise only. Either give us five or six (or more!) different insignia's to choose from, or an actual insignia designer!
I presume an "Insignia pack" would be the easiest thing to give us and could easily sell it in the C-Store.
Would actually be cool to introduce this for all, at least at the fleet level, IE: the fleet can make available a uniform insignia for all.
However, in canon, it was a tribute to the success of the Enterprise under Captain James T. Kirk that the Enterprise insignia was adopted as the Starfleet logo. It was standardized in the 2270 era, Constitution Refit.
Shows you how well regarded Kirk was that it is still the Starfleet logo more than 100 years after his death.
Okay, an idea just popped into my head regarding the "Bridge=Superdome Arena" sizes while reading the new responses (I'd like to thank DarkJedi for his nice response that was good to hear).
You can do this 2 ways, although, I think my second choice works best:
1) Make the TOS bridge accurate-to-scale. Basically, in the description in the C-Store, note that this Bridge will be small. You can't invite 100 of your closest friends on it comfortably. Sell as-is with this caveat/simple warning. Let's face it : It is a nice option to invite others, including the other faction,onto your bridge (for legit RP/OOC reasons) but not EVERY player is doing this. To state a generous, yet unsupported statistic, I estimate maybe 25% or less of the player base has done this. (And yes, I could be surprised by actual numbers.)
2) Just give us TWO versions of all bridges; the "Big Bridge" and the "Small ones". They would look the same, but one would be smaller than the other. (Cryptic is about giving customers options, remember?). If company is coming over, say you want to host your tax accounting convention on an STO bridge, you can switch to a larger size.
a) The easy way to switch would be through the Starship "Tailor". Go to Starbase, insert it, done. Should be easier to code (?)
b) The harder way to code, but easier for players, would be just have an option switch put into the game. It could be under "Options" or a sub-menu under the "Go to Your Bridge" selection ("Large" or "Small").
Basically, I understand why all the common/mission areas are wide/big, but we are talking about basically "personal housing" here; an area most players will enjoy by themselves or small groups.
Good ideas.
The two bridges I'd most like to see introduced from the TOS era is the original, Kirk 5 year mission bridge, and the one in the Wrath of Kahn. Those were the two best bridge designs ever.
There's a bigger version on the Ex Astris site, but they don't like direct linking. Just look at the second bridge on the list, labelled "Constitution class USS Enterprise, 2265"
I have TOS uniforms with my Steam DDE
but no use for them without an Constitution Class.
If i can buy a bridge on C-Store... or god forbid if i could have it just for my monthly fee that i allready paid for a year in advance....
i still would have no use for it without the proper Starship to go with it.
The Skirts are nice to have for playing arround with the other uniforms but i dont see me using TOS uniforms on a TMP or later Ship.
I also think that Gamestop customers who have a Constitution Class but no TOS uniforms would appriciate those in the C-Store.
So yes, plz give us the full TOS treatment in the C-Store !
also including those Mirror Universe Uniforms would not hurt. The ones that only the Champions Online Lifetimers got... how stupid is that? I will NOT buy a Lifetime for another Game that i have no intrest in only for one tiny Uniform option!
A lot of people would buy those... probably more then the stuff that is in C-Store right now.
Also the constitution would be nice change for not having to watch at the Miranda Class on the next toon AGAIN and AGAIN...
Although we already have this bridge in the form of the C-Store Assault Cruiser Bridge set, the fact that it's got the two extra seats next to the Captain drives me insane. If I could get my hands on the editor tool that you guys use for these bridges, I'd get rid of those seats and put those BO's on one of the many numerous seats scattered across the rest of that bridge. It's not like it doesn't have enough seats to put them somewhere else. Maybe even actually have two people on the helm/nav station in front and center! Also, lower the opacity on the standup displays so you can actually see through them to the rest of the bridge.
I'd make a comment on the scaling but at this point I don't ever see that changing. At least they figured out that they can make the doors *look* better by reskinning the door piece to have a more acceptable sized door painted in the middle and painting the rest of the piece to look like the walls. I'll laugh if, when they finally get the code working for opening doors installed (that they "found" just before launch), that the doors return to their previous ridiculous sizes.
To link that back to the subject of this thread, I'd fear for the scale of a TOS bridge. I believe it could be done if they keep the interior volume the same as the current Light Cruiser bridges (minus the hallway part, unless they want to make the hallway a turbolift that you can walk into), but it would need more stations with seats in it, the overall shape of the room would need to be rounder (as opposed to the square with rounded corners), and the main viewscreen would have to not be at a weird angle to the captain.
I guess just like some people will drive a model T today, some people want to fly a 200 year old ship. I know technology gets better, but we had trouble keeping a 25 year old space ship from blowing up. Space is rough, the old enterprise is nice and all, but it belongs in a museum, Pakleds could fly circles around a constitution class ship...
Thankfully, Cryptic has already stated that Abramsverse will not become a part of this game.. the only reference is Spock in the game's introduction.. that's it.. after that Abram's Trek does not exist.. as such, neither will the Bridge
I definitely would purchase a TOS Bridge from the C-Store!
I pre-ordered my Collector's Edition from GameStop specifically to get the TOS era Constitution class cruiser, and would love to have the TOS bridge for that ship.
I don't know if it's been mentioned or thought of yet, but just a side-thought...
Would you want the TOS bridge to be modeled off of the original/classic TOS sets, or based on the updated version from the TOS-Remastered?
I'd lean towards the TOS-Remastered, since it did a good job of updating little touches, fixing a few bridge station layouts, etc.
Thankfully, Cryptic has already stated that Abramsverse will not become a part of this game.. the only reference is Spock in the game's introduction.. that's it.. after that Abram's Trek does not exist.. as such, neither will the Bridge
Maybe you haven't seen the Assault Cruiser Bridge pack in the C-Store?
This is the bridge layout from the 2009 movie. The coloring is different (overall blue instead of red), and the panels are up to date with modern versions, but it's the Abrams movie bridge.
EDIT: minus the lovers seats on each side of the Captain :mad:
EDIT2: correctiom: "Star Cruiser bridge pack", not Assault Cruiser
I definitely would purchase a TOS Bridge from the C-Store!
I pre-ordered my Collector's Edition from GameStop specifically to get the TOS era Constitution class cruiser, and would love to have the TOS bridge for that ship.
I don't know if it's been mentioned or thought of yet, but just a side-thought...
Would you want the TOS bridge to be modeled off of the original/classic TOS sets, or based on the updated version from the TOS-Remastered?
I'd lean towards the TOS-Remastered, since it did a good job of updating little touches, fixing a few bridge station layouts, etc.
I agree.. I bought the DDE from Gamestop for the TOS Uniforms, the TOS Connie.. was hoping the TOS Bridge was already in game.. but it wasn't .. now this makes me excited that they are discussing it..
As for the Brige.. most of the TOS Remasterd only Zoomed in and used sharpening and color clarification for bridge consoles.. the ship exterior scenes were either done the same way or CGI re-created.
I think only 2 episodes had slightly different layouts for the Science console than the original TOS.
Anyhow, I don't care which they use.. TOS or TOS-RM.. Using both as reference would be fantastic.. So long as they don't do the TAS bridge.. I good.
Maybe you haven't seen the Assault Cruiser Bridge pack in the C-Store?
This is the bridge layout from the 2009 movie. The coloring is different (overall blue instead of red), and the panels are up to date with modern versions, but it's the Abrams movie bridge.
EDIT: minus the lovers seats on each side of the Captain :mad:
EDIT2: correctiom: "Star Cruiser bridge pack", not Assault Cruiser
Nope.. haven't purchased anything from the C-Store.. holding off with my C-Points for the TOS / ST II: TWOK Bridges and possibly re-skinning / upgrading my T5 ship to look like the TOS Connie. (TWOK Connie refit as well).
This would be totally awesome. I also vote for making it easier to get a whole TOS set (I had to get 2 copies of this game to get the matching constitution class ship to go with my uniform, but I'm still missing my bridge)!
While you're at it, why not make a TOS Klingon ship to go with it for the Klingon side?
Any Federation and Klingon TOS additions would be very welcome, bridges, uniforms, gear, etc.
I would love to get more TOS era ships too. I would love to be able to get my hands on the Constitution Class ship itself, am so jealous when I see them.
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I assume they have references. I was just showing the alternate color schemes I was suggesting.
there, fix't it for ya
this brdige right?
No.
It looks like this:
http://www.ptrope.com/Star_Trek_Reanimated/Images/TOS_Bridge001_003_ws.jpg
Would actually be cool to introduce this for all, at least at the fleet level, IE: the fleet can make available a uniform insignia for all.
However, in canon, it was a tribute to the success of the Enterprise under Captain James T. Kirk that the Enterprise insignia was adopted as the Starfleet logo. It was standardized in the 2270 era, Constitution Refit.
Shows you how well regarded Kirk was that it is still the Starfleet logo more than 100 years after his death.
Good ideas.
The two bridges I'd most like to see introduced from the TOS era is the original, Kirk 5 year mission bridge, and the one in the Wrath of Kahn. Those were the two best bridge designs ever.
Anyway I would love the old style bridge and I think it should be added free
Here's a great reference;
http://cutawayview.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/bridge-drawing.png?w=400&h=270
There's a bigger version on the Ex Astris site, but they don't like direct linking. Just look at the second bridge on the list, labelled "Constitution class USS Enterprise, 2265"
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/bridges/enterprise-c-bridge.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/gallery/bridges1.htm&usg=__BPMfHhRAIpDMnoJR6_ENPH_TsjA=&h=929&w=1356&sz=242&hl=en&start=1&itbs=1&tbnid=mspqGmKH7Lt_7M:&tbnh=103&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dstar%2Btrek%2Bbridge%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG%26gbv%3D2%26tbs%3Disch:1
Im justing kidding around
I would really like to do both, JJ's interiors and the TOS interiors
no, the birdie is wrong. that bridge is an abmination to canon
The JJ bridge kinda sucks. Too much chrome, too white, too bright, looks like an Apple store.
Really, I've not liked any of the bridge sets since the "Genesis Trilogy" ie: Star Trek 2-3-4.
but no use for them without an Constitution Class.
If i can buy a bridge on C-Store... or god forbid if i could have it just for my monthly fee that i allready paid for a year in advance....
i still would have no use for it without the proper Starship to go with it.
The Skirts are nice to have for playing arround with the other uniforms but i dont see me using TOS uniforms on a TMP or later Ship.
I also think that Gamestop customers who have a Constitution Class but no TOS uniforms would appriciate those in the C-Store.
So yes, plz give us the full TOS treatment in the C-Store !
also including those Mirror Universe Uniforms would not hurt. The ones that only the Champions Online Lifetimers got... how stupid is that? I will NOT buy a Lifetime for another Game that i have no intrest in only for one tiny Uniform option!
A lot of people would buy those... probably more then the stuff that is in C-Store right now.
Also the constitution would be nice change for not having to watch at the Miranda Class on the next toon AGAIN and AGAIN...
Hur Hur Hur...
Although we already have this bridge in the form of the C-Store Assault Cruiser Bridge set, the fact that it's got the two extra seats next to the Captain drives me insane. If I could get my hands on the editor tool that you guys use for these bridges, I'd get rid of those seats and put those BO's on one of the many numerous seats scattered across the rest of that bridge. It's not like it doesn't have enough seats to put them somewhere else. Maybe even actually have two people on the helm/nav station in front and center! Also, lower the opacity on the standup displays so you can actually see through them to the rest of the bridge.
I'd make a comment on the scaling but at this point I don't ever see that changing. At least they figured out that they can make the doors *look* better by reskinning the door piece to have a more acceptable sized door painted in the middle and painting the rest of the piece to look like the walls. I'll laugh if, when they finally get the code working for opening doors installed (that they "found" just before launch), that the doors return to their previous ridiculous sizes.
To link that back to the subject of this thread, I'd fear for the scale of a TOS bridge. I believe it could be done if they keep the interior volume the same as the current Light Cruiser bridges (minus the hallway part, unless they want to make the hallway a turbolift that you can walk into), but it would need more stations with seats in it, the overall shape of the room would need to be rounder (as opposed to the square with rounded corners), and the main viewscreen would have to not be at a weird angle to the captain.
Actually, that is an incorrect view of the Bridge..
Chech your source.. that is a re-image of the TAS bridge done in Real Life..
Refer back to my post
http://forums.startrekonline.com/showpost.php?p=2473738&postcount=73
for Authentic TOS bridge
The TOS bridge did not have the hallway off to the left.. that was added per TAS (The Animated Series).
Thankfully, Cryptic has already stated that Abramsverse will not become a part of this game.. the only reference is Spock in the game's introduction.. that's it.. after that Abram's Trek does not exist.. as such, neither will the Bridge
I pre-ordered my Collector's Edition from GameStop specifically to get the TOS era Constitution class cruiser, and would love to have the TOS bridge for that ship.
I don't know if it's been mentioned or thought of yet, but just a side-thought...
Would you want the TOS bridge to be modeled off of the original/classic TOS sets, or based on the updated version from the TOS-Remastered?
I'd lean towards the TOS-Remastered, since it did a good job of updating little touches, fixing a few bridge station layouts, etc.
I would love both! I am a huge fan of the look on both bridges.
Maybe you haven't seen the Assault Cruiser Bridge pack in the C-Store?
This is the bridge layout from the 2009 movie. The coloring is different (overall blue instead of red), and the panels are up to date with modern versions, but it's the Abrams movie bridge.
EDIT: minus the lovers seats on each side of the Captain :mad:
EDIT2: correctiom: "Star Cruiser bridge pack", not Assault Cruiser
I agree.. I bought the DDE from Gamestop for the TOS Uniforms, the TOS Connie.. was hoping the TOS Bridge was already in game.. but it wasn't .. now this makes me excited that they are discussing it..
As for the Brige.. most of the TOS Remasterd only Zoomed in and used sharpening and color clarification for bridge consoles.. the ship exterior scenes were either done the same way or CGI re-created.
I think only 2 episodes had slightly different layouts for the Science console than the original TOS.
Anyhow, I don't care which they use.. TOS or TOS-RM.. Using both as reference would be fantastic.. So long as they don't do the TAS bridge.. I good.
Nope.. haven't purchased anything from the C-Store.. holding off with my C-Points for the TOS / ST II: TWOK Bridges and possibly re-skinning / upgrading my T5 ship to look like the TOS Connie. (TWOK Connie refit as well).
The Enterprise, Show me the bridge of the Enterprise, you chattering piece of ... !
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Umm, isn't that the bridge from the latest movie and not from ToS?
While you're at it, why not make a TOS Klingon ship to go with it for the Klingon side?
I would love to get more TOS era ships too. I would love to be able to get my hands on the Constitution Class ship itself, am so jealous when I see them.