Hear me out. I think it strikes a nice compromise between those that wanted a death penalty and those that did not. I believe it's the best-case-scenario for all players involved. Cryptic is actually trying to demonstrate they listen to both sides of an argument and devise solutions which include...and not exclude...all of the paying subscribers.
With that being said, I'd like to see two rules implemented to make the optional death penalty truly work. First, make the optional death penalty tied to the difficulty slider. If you want to play on easy, normal, or hard you get no death penalty...just increased ship count, difficulty, etc. If you want to play on hardcore you get the aforementioned PLUS the death penalty. That way it's tied into a logical and linear progression of difficulty and doesn't just seem arbitrary or randomly applied and removed according to the player's whims. Secondly, tie in teams, fleets, or random player groups into one difficulty setting per instance/team/whatever. In other words, everyone on a team must have the same sliding difficulty as that set by the team leader or group leader. That way if I'm in an instance where I have the slider maxed out with death penalty I won't have to worry about "griefers" or other assorted clowns warping in and messing with things by dying over and over, engaging enemies, drawing in fleets, or crashing into Crystalline Entity shards with no fear of death or consequences while TRIBBLE over everyone else.
The death penalty as an option WILL work if it's tied to the max difficulty slider setting and groups cannot mix difficulty settings within instances/teams/groups. Ok, that's my two cents (or energy credits) so feel free to discuss, flame, disagree, yell, whine, etc....
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So do you think everyone should just post their "replies" to existing topics as new threads if they dont like the existing discussions, or just you?
Pretty much everyone really...beauty of a free society and open forum. Since the thread was not a reply to any one thread or comment located anywhere else it doesn't require posting under similar yet not identical threads. But thanks for your constructive input, regardless... :rolleyes:
Otherwise, the idea of missions that get more challenging as you progress pretty much gets negated...
I'm afraid the mods would disagree with you, and that is why they close and or merge threads that are about existing topics.
Sorry, but if this were NOT in response to the other threads where people are saying they DIDNT like the optional DP idea, then you would have no reason to announce the fact that you feel the opposite.
My pleasure :rolleyes:
And since they have not merged any of the other 15 "DP" threads I would tend to disagree with you...
A statement of fact (I like the optional DP) does not necessarily have to relate to anyone else's (they don't like it). Your assumption that I am in some way responding to a particular posting is erroneous and fallacious on its face. I am stating that I like the death penalty. I like the concept of optionality. I never stated a response, challenge, or reply to any post or thread created by anyone else. I never referenced or linked or quoted any other thread or posting.Sorry, nice try, thanks for playing and we have some nice parting gifts for you in the lobby...;)
"I actually LIKE the optional DP"
The word "actually" is used as a response to a differeing idea. The fact that you capitalized the word "like" further emphasizes you are responding to a differing opinion. You didnt simply say you liked the DP, you wanted to show your difference of opinion versus the existing threads where people are saying they dont like it. And that is what you call a "response"
I posted the Jack thing in another thread and it got buried. I posted a new thread saying the same thing and it got lots of replys!
You pay to play, and you can post whatever you want as long as it not against the forum rules!
And in this case, it is:
Creating Duplicate Threads
Posts and/or private messages that, in any manner whether directly or indirectly, create new threads about existing topics or separate threads about an existing topic for further discussion in more than one forum (e.g., cross postings) may be subject to an infraction.
http://forums.startrekonline.com/announcement.php?f=128&a=3
And what your doing is posting off topic and trolling the OP.
At least your bumping the OP's post tho.
Note: dstahl mentioned this somewhere in the March 11 engineering report comments
As a matter of fact, I am directly responding to a statement the OP made earlier in this thread regarding why he posted this seperately rather than in an existing thread. Since I am directly responding to his own statements, it is not off topic.
Shhhhh don't tell anyone!!
I disagree twice over.
If the DP is an encounter reset like the end of Infected (with a space revival mechanic activated, so suppressing respawn has the same effect in space as on the ground) then I would want to turn it on regardless of where I stuck the difficulty slider. On the other hand, I want to ramp content up in difficulty to the point where it can defeat me with some frequency and I'm not interested in roleplaying Sisyphus, so if there is a resource loss or debuff DP I'd never turn it on.
In point of fact, the definition of "actually" is that of "an actual fact" or is "used to imply that one would expect the fact to be the opposite of that stated" not in opposition to someone else's statements...but hey, what does that guy Webster and his stupid book know? :rolleyes:
I'll have to check that out....exactly what I was thinking and I'd wholeheartedly support something like that.
I'm aware of its definition, and I'm also aware of the way its used in common language. I have a feeling you are too, even though you want us to believe otherwise.
Nagus, will you please just let the mods do the modding? :rolleyes:
If you will notice, I am not the person who first pointed out the OP's problem, I am simply responding to his own statements.
Yes, we understand you have posted 7 times in a thread that you don't think should exist.
Have a cookie?
And you are replying to posts that you obviously think shouldnt exist either. I'll take half, and leave you the other half
That being said, I applaud your efforts to help moderate the forums. I used to try to do it, but trying to moderate trolls and flamers was like trying to run on water. I gave up on it. It's easier to let phoxe and the gm's handle it. Oh, and Q, the best moderator of them all.
I to like the option as it allows people to play as they like to. Your ideas are also good as it allows those who want a challenge but not a time sink to have fun as well. Though I still wish they would have made a reward for not dieing I think an idea like this would work well.