I have never once completed this mission. I tried it for days and days after it came out. Groups failed and gave up. Today I thought well I am bored so I will try it. First group I had the people couldn't get the code in after 4 try's for the first shield. The second group I had was just a group of we die a lot.
Ive heard it was like 5 hours or so to do. So I will never probably attempt it. I dont like being glued to my computer for that long. I have kids, a wife and a life.
Im not exactly a casual gamer, and sometimes I do sit down and play something for hours. But thats because I want too. Not because I have too.
Games should seriously move away from anything that takes over an hour or two to complete. Anything more than that is ridiculous....... :mad:
Ive heard it was like 5 hours or so to do. So I will never probably attempt it. I dont like being glued to my computer for that long. I have kids, a wife and a life.
Im not exactly a casual gamer, and sometimes I do sit down and play something for hours. But thats because I want too. Not because I have too.
Games should seriously move away from anything that takes over an hour or two to complete. Anything more than that is ridiculous....... :mad:
Did it twice. First time right when it came out and very little knew how to do it, took about 5 hours. Second time it was done just inside of 3 on a team of 1 expert, 1 person with little experience (me), and 3 rookies. Or was it 4 rookies since one got stuck and couldn't move so he gave up and we got another rookie to take his place in the last room.
/me wonders what the point of this thread is other than to try and make all the people that do enjoy it feel bad.
the OP said he has tried and tried and never got it finished. How is that making those who enjoy it feel bad? If anything they should feel good they got it done reading his post.
/me wonders what the point of this thread is other than to try and make all the people that do enjoy it feel bad.
To show you guys how many people are upset with the mission? The majority of the game is designed for casual gamers yes? And here is this mission, a preview of what's in store until at least Season 2, marketed towards more hard core gamers which does not appeal to the casual gamers, likely your largest number of players LEFT. (Thanks Stormstryke)
Attempted this mission 6 or 7 times. Group always fails at the end room. People don;t follow instructions, fail at jumping, or quit the group suddenly.
Please feel bad if you have completed this mission. Please do. Feel bad for all the people who don't understand what "end game content" is. For the people who PuG this having no clue what the concept of strategy is.
To show you guys how many people are upset with the mission? The majority of the game is designed for casual gamers yes? And here is this mission, a preview of what's in store until at least Season 2, marketed towards more hard core gamers which does not appeal to the casual gamers, likely your largest number of players LEFT.
Fixed.
A lot of the true hardcore gamers have left already because they didn't feel challenged. So putting a challenge at the end, they may not have seen it because they left before getting there.
I'm RA5 and I've actually never got round to doing it.
Same. Can't seem to get the time. Or make the time tbh. I get good stuff from dailies to use on ... well what ? a group mission thyat gives the same sort of stuff ?
I have no characters above commander 6 still. I havent even had time in the past week to login but once. Honestly it doesnt bother me that much. Where I live the economy is horrible and I am just happy to still have a job doing something I enjoy.
The mission where you have to go to the Bajor Fire Caves is filled with bugs, including pathing issues that really slow you up, then there is an issue at the end with the boss disappearing and not coming back. It caused me to have to restart the mission the first time I tried it. I'm waiting for the pathing fixes to go live before I do the mission again. Until then, I'm working on my alt and tribble testing.
LOL i have been away awaiting the new content release tomorrow! I dont even know where i would go to take part in that mission! Anyone point me in the right direction?
A lot of the true hardcore gamers have left already because they didn't feel challenged. So putting a challenge at the end, they may not have seen it because they left before getting there.
Haha thanks for the fix! I'm gonna update that post now =P
Have beat it just about every day, no im not in a fleet just have slowly made friends who also knew what they were doing so usually now i have 2 or people knowing what there doing. Best time currently is 1:17 i know with the right groups u can get under a hour. When i started out i had runs of 5 hours then it slowly kept dropping now i like 2 hrs or less.
To show you guys how many people are upset with the mission? The majority of the game is designed for casual gamers yes? And here is this mission, a preview of what's in store until at least Season 2, marketed towards more hard core gamers which does not appeal to the casual gamers, likely your largest number of players.
Now the question is, why does everyone who dont like harder? quests, have to do it?
IF you dont like it, just dont do it. Finally we got a mission thats more difficult that the rest of the STO's pathetically easy missions.
You guys aren't missing much. Unless you have a group of dedicated experienced players, all you'll find is disappointment and frustration at the complete and utter failure that PuGs normally bring.
Attempted this mission 6 or 7 times. Group always fails at the end room. People don;t follow instructions, fail at jumping, or quit the group suddenly.
Please feel bad if you have completed this mission. Please do. Feel bad for all the people who don't understand what "end game content" is. For the people who PuG this having no clue what the concept of strategy is.
That might be cos up until this missions, not a single mission earlier has needed group play to complete. Every casual just gets mission and expects its to be your basic go afk for 2 hours and have weps on auto fire. And then come back and quest is done.
Now the question is, why does everyone who dont like harder? quests, have to do it?
IF you dont like it, just dont do it. Finally we got a mission thats more difficult that the rest of the STO's pathetically easy missions.
Not everything has to cater casuals.
Problem is from what I've read its going to be a gateway to later raids. Oh and the fact that its the *only* non fluff content coming out until Season 2....
Never done it. I run with two smaller Fleets and neither one (nor both combined when I've checked) ever had enough Admirals on and interested in running it at the same time. Several folks want do to this but we never quite seem to get a critical mass together that can stick around to get it done.
This might seem laughably trivial to folks who do serious raids and the like in other MMOs but to casual gamers and small fleets even this is bordering on prohibitive. It's just a major hassle and investment of time that many of us older, non-hardcore, gamers have trouble dealing with. I'm glad it's in the game but I think STO should go back to focusing on its strengths and that's casual/singleplayer content. That's where STO has the potential to be great but it just needs more content (particularly in Exploration).
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But, I have wait and waited for a group. Nothing.
Im not exactly a casual gamer, and sometimes I do sit down and play something for hours. But thats because I want too. Not because I have too.
Games should seriously move away from anything that takes over an hour or two to complete. Anything more than that is ridiculous....... :mad:
exactly.
Did it twice. First time right when it came out and very little knew how to do it, took about 5 hours. Second time it was done just inside of 3 on a team of 1 expert, 1 person with little experience (me), and 3 rookies. Or was it 4 rookies since one got stuck and couldn't move so he gave up and we got another rookie to take his place in the last room.
I'm more of a casual player and didn't want to play the STF cause it appears to attract the more "serious" players.
LOL!
That was really funny.
the OP said he has tried and tried and never got it finished. How is that making those who enjoy it feel bad? If anything they should feel good they got it done reading his post.
To show you guys how many people are upset with the mission? The majority of the game is designed for casual gamers yes? And here is this mission, a preview of what's in store until at least Season 2, marketed towards more hard core gamers which does not appeal to the casual gamers, likely your largest number of players LEFT. (Thanks Stormstryke)
Please feel bad if you have completed this mission. Please do. Feel bad for all the people who don't understand what "end game content" is. For the people who PuG this having no clue what the concept of strategy is.
Fixed.
A lot of the true hardcore gamers have left already because they didn't feel challenged. So putting a challenge at the end, they may not have seen it because they left before getting there.
My big suggestion:
Please make this radisode, or future ones like it, divided into two parts. See? That works. Some of your missions are like that.
That way, I can finish half of it and come back later and do the rest. And if a team wants to go ahead and do the whole thing they can. Everyone wins.
Please?
Cage of Fire fixes?
Same. Can't seem to get the time. Or make the time tbh. I get good stuff from dailies to use on ... well what ? a group mission thyat gives the same sort of stuff ?
cba
The mission where you have to go to the Bajor Fire Caves is filled with bugs, including pathing issues that really slow you up, then there is an issue at the end with the boss disappearing and not coming back. It caused me to have to restart the mission the first time I tried it. I'm waiting for the pathing fixes to go live before I do the mission again. Until then, I'm working on my alt and tribble testing.
Haha thanks for the fix! I'm gonna update that post now =P
Now the question is, why does everyone who dont like harder? quests, have to do it?
IF you dont like it, just dont do it. Finally we got a mission thats more difficult that the rest of the STO's pathetically easy missions.
Not everything has to cater casuals.
You guys aren't missing much. Unless you have a group of dedicated experienced players, all you'll find is disappointment and frustration at the complete and utter failure that PuGs normally bring.
That might be cos up until this missions, not a single mission earlier has needed group play to complete. Every casual just gets mission and expects its to be your basic go afk for 2 hours and have weps on auto fire. And then come back and quest is done.
Problem is from what I've read its going to be a gateway to later raids. Oh and the fact that its the *only* non fluff content coming out until Season 2....
This might seem laughably trivial to folks who do serious raids and the like in other MMOs but to casual gamers and small fleets even this is bordering on prohibitive. It's just a major hassle and investment of time that many of us older, non-hardcore, gamers have trouble dealing with. I'm glad it's in the game but I think STO should go back to focusing on its strengths and that's casual/singleplayer content. That's where STO has the potential to be great but it just needs more content (particularly in Exploration).