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so the talk of the forum is all about the skill caps recently.
so i have taken it appon myself to offer a solution to those who wish to have the skill cap removed (those who wish to know why there is a skill cap and why it is flawed see post 2 )

so here we go! =D

#1 stop playing till more ranks/levels come out =o ( everybody knows that there will be move levels coming along it just hasn't finished being developed yet... more levels = more skill points = more skills )
#2 respec and spend all your points in low level skills (maxing out lower level skills saves skill points for that tier 5 skill you've been dieing to have =o
#3 develop your own sto private server and remove the skill cap ( self explainatory)
i'll post more solutions as i think of them.
and if you have any others feel free to post!! =D
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    why there is a skill cap!
    skills = exsperience, as such your skill points tie into your level... i.e. have 100 skill points = 100 exsperience points, to remove the skill cap would mean removing the level cap. this can't be don't currently because there are more levels coming out within the next 2-3 episodes so we're all going to get more skill points and max out more tier 5 skills, if the skill cap was removed without removing the level cap, then in 2-3 episodes when the new rank is released it'll cause problems because you'll have people who suddenly jump from being a rank 5 RA to a rank 10 general of the fleet (or some other rank )
    this will cause them to miss out on #1 all of the content between RA and general of the fleet. not to mention they will all just whine when they see all the new tier 6 skills they want that they can't get because they spent all thier skill points maxing out thier tier 5 skills =p
    also as my favorite example in a previous post.....
    endgame, no skill cap = 3 classes that all look identical, all carry the same gear, all drive the same ship and all play exactly the same....
    would you rather play with someone identically powerful to you or would you rather specialization?
    personally i prefer pvping with someone who does NOT have an identical skill set as me. it makes me feel like i'm just playing with myself when i go up against someone with an identical skill set, and if i wanted to play with myself i have a dirty magazine in the bathroom for that...
    if you have any other reason why you thnk the skill cap = good, feel free to post aswell ^_^
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Check my signature, this thread is futile. The linky to the DEV post that is.
    Furthermore, understand that every. single. time. I ever see these discussions, they always devolve into name calling, harrasment, and flaming, and I'm tired of it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Check my signature, this thread is futile. The linky to the DEV post that is.

    i actually support the skill cap ^___^, the thread is mostly a radical solution to a presistent populace who refuse to listen to higher authoritys and move on =o

    p.s. i like your hat =D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Check my signature, this thread is futile. The linky to the DEV post that is.

    Phoxe is not a Dev. He is a CRM.

    There is a HUGE difference.

    Devs can change the way the cap works or get rid of it.

    CRMs can close threads and give infractions, though I'm sure Devs have the power to do that too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Geoduck360 wrote:
    Phoxe is not a Dev. He is a CSR.

    There is a HUGE difference.

    Meh semantics, or are you saying he is a liar too?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I think the skill cap is good idea, its just set too low.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Meh semantics, or are you saying he is a liar too?

    No. It's not semantics, sure the threads devolve and can use locking, but the original posts can be useful for actual Devs to take a look at to gauge the pulse of the community.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I think the skill cap is good idea, its just set too low.

    This is my stance ^^^

    By the way, they are raising it "as soon as season 2", so this really is a moot discussion.

    It has already been stated that:

    1: Skill cap is going no where
    2: Will be "fixed" around Season 2
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Geoduck360 wrote:
    No. It's not semantics, sure the threads devolve and can use locking, but the original posts can be useful for actual Devs to take a look at to gauge the pulse of the community.

    Is he lying or not?

    Is the skill cap going somewhere?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Is he lying or not?

    Is the skill cap going somewhere?

    I wasn't responding to his statement in my first post. I was responding to you calling him a dev.

    What Phoxe said in your link is irrelevant.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Geoduck360 wrote:
    I wasn't responding to his statement in my first post. I was responding to you calling him a dev.

    What Phoxe said in your link is irrelevant.

    Is this thread about skill caps?
    Furthermore, understand that every. single. time. I ever see these discussions, they always devolve into name calling, harrasment, and flaming, and I'm tired of it.

    Not so irrelevant, is it. Especially with your attempts at derailing the topic to meet your needs.

    This thread is moot, the issues have already been explained.

    1: Skill cap will raise around Season 2
    2: Skill cap is going no-where

    (Number 2 came from that "irrelevant" thread.)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Geoduck360 wrote:
    Phoxe is not a Dev. He is a CRM.

    There is a HUGE difference.

    Devs can change the way the cap works or get rid of it.

    CRMs can close threads and give infractions, though I'm sure Devs have the power to do that too.

    devs, EMPLOY CRMs... so CRMS are DEV lackeys and get all of their information directly from the devs.
    so phoxe is a dev by extensions of employment
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    This is my stance ^^^

    By the way, they are raising it "as soon as season 2", so this really is a moot discussion.

    It has already been stated that:

    1: Skill cap is going no where
    2: Will be "fixed" around Season 2

    they are just adding the last 5 lvl's, you can then have 3 tier 5 skills instead of one or somthing low like that.


    btw i dident make this thread
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010



    Not so irrelevant, is it. Especially with your attempts at derailing the topic to meet your needs.

    This thread is moot, the issues have already been explained.

    1: Skill cap will raise around Season 2
    2: Skill cap is going no-where

    (Number 2 came from that "irrelevant" thread.)

    it's funny coz it's true! XD it did it within the first 5 post XD
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I read the OP and still didn't get an answer to the subject line:

    Who is Random, and why was he supposed to fix skill caps?


    :eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Rumbleskin wrote: »
    they are just adding the last 5 lvl's, toy can then have 3 tier 5 skills instead of one or somthing low like that.


    btw i dident make this thread

    Yeah, but it has been reported anyway.

    1: There is a search feature, plenty of topics on this already. Ask Rumble!
    2:
    Furthermore, understand that every. single. time. I ever see these discussions, they always devolve into name calling, harrasment, and flaming, and I'm tired of it.
    --Phoxe

    Rumble, you said somewhere that when they addressed the skill cap you would be "done". (I will dig the post out if I have to find it) Please, be done. We know, you don't like the skill cap. The word from "the hill" (to avoid more semantics) is that the skill cap is here to stay.

    You have your answer.

    As for your post, conjecture and speculation. Just because YOU think it isn't fun, doesn't mean it REALLY isn't fun. You do not decide reality.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Rumbleskin wrote: »
    they are just adding the last 5 lvl's, toy can then have 3 tier 5 skills instead of one or somthing low like that.


    btw i dident make this thread

    oh god i hope ppl don't start thinking we're the same person on 2 seperate accounts Dx
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    oh god i hope ppl don't start thinking we're the same person on 2 seperate accounts Dx

    No worries here :) You gave me a compliment (thank you, I didn't want to make the thread more off topic (sorry))

    Rumble, while his intentions are grand and awesome, has a bit of a problem "calming down". (This is my opinion, and not an insult in any way.) The answers have come, it's time to let it drop until Season 2 (at least?).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Kineel wrote:
    I read the OP and still didn't get an answer to the subject line:

    Who is Random, and why was he supposed to fix skill caps?


    :eek:

    i am random. and i gave a list of ways to fix it



    on a side note, i still like my idea of creating a private server without a skill cap and seeing how long before people become bored of the lack of a skill cap.
    honestly you could, without a skill cap just lower the levels down to 5 levels and you unlock a new ship each lvl..... no need for ranks... ust 100 skill points = lt, 200 skill points = ltc, 300 skill points = commander ...
    and so on and so on...
    it'd be a great marketing scheme too, you could probably charge people more then what they're paying now to play a capless sto and you'd make millions =o and eventually when people see how flawed a capless system is.........
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    i am random. and i gave a list of ways to fix it

    Aye, but why didn't you?

    Random "was" to fix the skill caps!

    It's your fault!!!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Yeah, but it has been reported anyway.

    1: There is a search feature, plenty of topics on this already. Ask Rumble!
    2: --Phoxe

    Rumble, you said somewhere that when they addressed the skill cap you would be "done". (I will dig the post out if I have to find it) Please, be done. We know, you don't like the skill cap. The word from "the hill" (to avoid more semantics) is that the skill cap is here to stay.

    You have your answer.

    As for your post, conjecture and speculation. Just because YOU think it isn't fun, doesn't mean it REALLY isn't fun. You do not decide reality.

    I really don't care one way or the other about skill caps. I do think they need to be somewhat higher but it is not going to cause me to quit if they stay the same.

    However who made you the protector of these boards do you work for cryptic? If not why do you feel the need to tell others what to post? This TRIBBLE goes on at every MMO board, wow, ever-quest and so on. There is always some fanboi who thinks he need to protect the company.

    Hello fanboi.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    no text at all
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Aye, but why didn't you?

    Random "was" to fix the skill caps!

    It's your fault!!!!

    lies! it's a typo!, except random does not make typos random makes new advances in language and the formation of new slang words!
    it's societys fault for not picking up on randoms new words!

    -corrects typo <.<....>.>.....-
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Rumbleskin wrote: »
    I am reality

    reality is relative to the person, by saying you are reality you are both true and false at the same time. why you are reality to yourself, you cannot apply the same logic to someone else "i.e. you are not reality to me" unless said person choose to make you a part of thier reality =o

    isn't science fun! ^_^
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Hillaan wrote:
    I really don't care one way or the other about skill caps. I do think they need to be somewhat higher but it is not going to cause me to quit if they stay the same.

    However who made you the protector of these boards do you work for cryptic? If not why do you feel the need to tell others what to post? This TRIBBLE goes on at every MMO board, wow, ever-quest and so on. There is always some fanboi who thinks he need to protect the company.

    Hello fanboi.

    Do you know what a person is called who posts to a thread that the "don't care about" only to drag it off topic, and pepper it with insults?

    You obviously do not know the situation, and have expertly stuck your foot in your insulting mouth.

    It is posts like that, that cause these threads to get shut down. Sheesh.

    Oh, and me a "fanboy" you really don't know the situation!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Do you know what a person is called who posts to a thread that the "don't care about" only to drag it off topic, and pepper it with insults?

    You obviously do not know the situation, and have expertly stuck your foot in your insulting mouth.

    It is posts like that, that cause these threads to get shut down. Sheesh.

    Oh, and me a "fanboy" you really don't know the situation!

    Whatever you say but you were the one telling people to stop posting about it. By the way Fanboi is not an insult, it is only an insult if you take it as such. Many people are happy to be fanbois.

    As to the topic its an easy fix really, if cryptic would do it. Right now you are either gimped on the ground or in space. You cant do both well. All they need to do is separate the talents. Issue different points for both so you don't have to choose between them. I really don't care how many points they give, cryptic can decided that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Hillaan wrote:
    Whatever you say but you were the one telling people to stop posting about it. By the way Fanboi is not an insult, it is only an insult if you take it as such. Many people are happy to be fanbois.

    Not an insult?
    1. boi 733 up, 191 down love it hate it

    1. in the TRIBBLE community, a young transgendered/androgynous/masculine person who is biologically female and presents themselves in a young, boyish way; a boidyke; often also identifies as genderqueer.

    2. in the TRIBBLE community, a young TRIBBLE man;

    3. in the BDSM community, someone who presents themselves in a young, boyish way and is usually a bottom/submissive;

    4. an alternate spelling of boy often used by young teenage boys.

    1. J doesn't feel like s/he fits the mold of any one gender. S/he presents hirself in a young, boyish manner, and hir appearance in quite androgynous/masculine. S/he's a boi.

    2. J is a young, masculine TRIBBLE male who presents himself in a boyish manner. He's a boi.

    3. Daddy's boi and/or Mommy's boi.
    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boi

    Are you using the #4? If not, you are insulting me. Don't play word games, if you meant it as a "not insult" you would have said nothing. That was a dig, and now you back peddle trying to hide it, obvious what is obvious? (Not you, just your actions in this thread.)
    Hillaan wrote:
    As to the topic its an easy fix really, if cryptic would do it. Right now you are either gimped on the ground or in space. You cant do both well. All they need to do is separate the talents. Issue different points for both so you don't have to choose between them. I really don't care how many points they give, cryptic can decided that.

    And they have said they would. Which if you were "in the know" (or cared about the topic) you would know. Did you even read this thread? I posted where they said:

    1: Skill cap is going nowhere
    2: Skill cap will be raised around season 2

    I also posted that a MOD/DEV/Whatever said that every time they see these threads, they turn into insult fest 98'. (Which you have shown is true.) As such, I have reported the thread. It has nothing to do with the OP'er who seems like a great person, nothing to do with Rumbles incessant rantings, nor your insults. It has to do with the mere fact that I am tired of seeing these threads, and since they are against the rules now I can do something about it. Of course that is what miffs you, isn't it?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Hillaan wrote:
    Whatever you say but you were the one telling people to stop posting about it. By the way Fanboi is not an insult, it is only an insult if you take it as such. Many people are happy to be fanbois.

    As to the topic its an easy fix really, if cryptic would do it. Right now you are either gimped on the ground or in space. You cant do both well. All they need to do is separate the talents. Issue different points for both so you don't have to choose between them. I really don't care how many points they give, cryptic can decided that.

    i do both ground and space equally well =/ what are you talking about =/
    and what if you are a girl, fanboi could be insulting to a girl =o
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Not an insult?

    http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=boi

    Are you using the #4? If not, you are insulting me. Don't play word games, if you meant it as a "not insult" you would have said nothing. That was a dig, and now you back peddle trying to hide it, obvious what is obvious? (Not you, just your actions in this thread.)



    And they have said they would. Which if you were "in the know" (or cared about the topic) you would know. Did you even read this thread? I posted where they said:

    1: Skill cap is going nowhere
    2: Skill cap will be raised around season 2

    I also posted that a MOD/DEV/Whatever said that every time they see these threads, they turn into insult fest 98'. (Which you have shown is true.) As such, I have reported the thread. It has nothing to do with the OP'er who seems like a great person, nothing to do with Rumbles incessant rantings, nor your insults. It has to do with the mere fact that I am tired of seeing these threads, and since they are against the rules now I can do something about it. Of course that is what miffs you, isn't it?

    Wow just wow you proved my point, as to being a teen boy lets see is 49 old enough for you. I have been playing these games longer then many of the people now playing them have been alive. This will be my last post on this but the fact you felt the need to report it proves everything I said was true.

    I have not checked but I hope to God there is an ignore button on this thing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    can we get back on track and talk about ways to fix the skill cap or why the skill cap is a productive thing please

    if we must derail this thread then you must derail it in a fashion that is productive to me become an STO easter egg!
    i demand a panda on a ball in every bar!!
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