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So uh...whats the odds we might see the old Klingon Magnetic Pulse Weapon?
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I believe it came from the D7/K'tinga fore torpedo tube. was it a torp like weapon or a energy type weapon? Beats me! What did it do? Im not sure...it did leave arcing electrical like disturbances along the hull of the target.
It would make a nice post pre-order bonus for the Klingons.
Maybe it'll have a chance to drop the EPS for all sub-system(not necessarily diasable). Or maybe it cancels out polarized hull. Nothing too uber, but something different and unique for the KDF.
It would pressumably travel at the same speed as a photon torpedo, but do less damage.
It would make a nice post pre-order bonus for the Klingons.
Maybe it'll have a chance to drop the EPS for all sub-system(not necessarily diasable). Or maybe it cancels out polarized hull. Nothing too uber, but something different and unique for the KDF.
It would pressumably travel at the same speed as a photon torpedo, but do less damage.
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and CommanderKor - I'll just point out that the Romulan torpedoes are green, but not because they're green photons, but because the Romulans use Plasma Torpedoes.
The only group this would be applicable to, if I recall correctly, would be the Cardassians. They seem to break the mold in that they use Photons, but theirs are somehow color-shifted to be more of a yellowish instead of the otherwise standard red.
Plasma torpedoes would be unique in that they are giant ball of plasma.
It would also explain why heavy plasma torpedoes are slower than normal torpedoes. They require more energy to launch and could destabilize at higher velocities.
Bloody cardies! Leave it to them to add lemons to their torps, they do the computers.
Here you go.
http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Magnetic_pulse_weapon
I checked out the MA reference to Star Trek III, but it turns the electric arcing shown there was just speculation. Watching on youtube, you can see both the Enterprise and the BoP's torpedos caused arcing on the hull...so it wasnt anything necessarily an indication of Kruge using one.
So other than the single visual of the weapon discharge in flight on Memeory Alpha, there is no other info...I'll see if I can find more.
I could have sworn Klingons did have green photon torpedoes at one time(or brief period)....Im almost certain....In fact Kruge's torpedoes in ST III have a definite green hue to them.
Then again, the Bird-of-Prey was originally designed to be a Romulan ship when the script called for Romulans and not Klingons (the name of the ship was in keeping with the older Bird-of-Prey that was captained by Mark Leonard's Romulan Commander). So it's logical to assume that the green photons were most likely based on Romulan power signatures.
the Devs actually read this section?
Who knew???
SFC/OP is still my favorite trek game to date, I don't recall a magnetic pulse??
Back then the Klingons had now ship model, they received it in the third season.
You can see the Enterprise with this weapon here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjCNeDJr5Bs
It's at 1:18 and Kirk calls the shots "magnetic pulses".
They became blue in the Remastered edition but nothing else changes.
This is also the only episode they are metioned in.
As for the arc in Star Trek 3 (and 5) : It was not really an arc, more like a green ball.
http://services.tos.net/pics/st5/st5-kli3.jpg
Personally I always figured it was a very small Plasma Torpedo launcher.
Interesting is also that is looks almost exactly like the Type F Plasma launchers from SFC.
This would also fit well with the original backstory that the ship was stolen from the
Romulans.
Additionally the weapon in ST3 looks nothing like the one the BoP in Star Trek 6 used, so
it can't be a photon.
Of course the idea that the Klingons used some other kind of torpedo in the Origninal Series was pretty much overruled by "Enterprise" where the Klingons were supposed to have Photon Torpedoes.
However Hoshi actually made a mistake since she said pu'Dah dak cha, which is made from the words phaser, something in the middle, and torpedo.
Actually otlh cha means Photon torpedo.
I do NOT speak Klingon, but I know that much.
So either it is a weapon different from our familiar Photons or it is simply a different name for them.
I mean a Photon Torpedo uses matter and antimatter seperated from another by *drumrolls* a magnetic field.
I must admit I would the Klingons to have a torpedo weapon of their own.
Of course everyone can use everyones weapons if he pleases, but the Feds have Photons and Quantums, the Romulans have Photons and Plasmas and the Klingons...?
I very much liked the idea from Microprose's "Birth of the Federation" where the Federation had Photons on the earlier and Quantums on the later ships, and the Klingons upgraded from Photons to Ion-Torpedoes.
Perhaps something like that as a modern successor would be quite nice.
Take a look at what the (K'Vort=supersized) Bird of Prey fires at around 4 minutes into the vid, does it look like your average Photon Torpedo?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8cMVo3Nytk&feature=related
They did not simply copy the Torpedo effect from the Enterprise D and turned it green or something.
It looks a lot different from other torps.
I'm all for a new type of torpedo for/from the Klingons.
Were you at right the timeindex?
The one at 4:03 is the one I was talking about.
The one at 6:10, which is blue, is NOT a torpedo.:)
The dialogue in the episode also clearly identifies it as a disruptor.;)
I was under the impression that a photon was a lightwave/particle and could therefore be any color, depending on its vibratory frequency.
He's using photon as short for photon torpedo. He's not referring to the elementary unit of light.
I think that was the Ion pulse cannon that actually also found it's way into SFC III. Wicked short range weapon much like the Romulan plasma Torpedos , fun stuff , ah , the memories. The weapons impact disapated with increasing range , much like the show , TOS.
Phaser and Disruptor colors are by cannon due to impurities in the crystals used to collimate the beams, the color of the field surrounding the matter/anti-matter in photon torpedos is a function of wasted radiated energy, Plasma Torps would be the only consistantly colored weapon based on cannon information I have read over the last 3 or 4 decades.
You would have loved Starfleet Battles before the days of Computer games. Well I should say before the days of seriously graphical computer games.
That's the wrong one.:)
You are looking about 2 minutes too late into the scene.
I meant the torpedo at counter 4 minutes 03 seconds.
According to the TNG Technical Manual, the Photon Torpedo is your typical guided missile-style weapon just like we've ssen them in Star Trek 2, 6 etc.
The glowing effect around the torpedo that appears after launch is some kind of casing that if put around the actual torpedo.
My guess is that they are kept there with some kind of forcefield and that the entire idea is to protect the torpedo from interstellar gases etc.
However the science in this is somewhat bumpy, especially when we consider that the torpedo has its own navigational deflector.
So technically it does not really matter what colour the glow has since it's the actual warhead that counts.
Just like with the beams it's dependant in what tech is used to produce that beam.
In the old SFB materials it is even stated that a "phaser" is some kind of directed energy weapon with capabilities comparable to its Starfleet counterpart.
In case of the alien Andromedans it is even the case that their Phaser 1 and Phaser 2 work on entire different physical principles.
As for the Plasma Torpedoes thers is an interesting aspect that is usually overlooked.
In the Original Series the big red ball fired from the Romulan ship is generated by the ship itself.
It is a large amount of plasma encased in a forcefield.
Just like it is represented in Star Fleet Battels and Starfleet Command.
During the Next Generation era, the familiar green glowing Plasma torpedoes are actually solid-cased torpedoes, just like Photons (they were actually abbreviated this way in TNG sometimes, like in Q-Who)
In DS9 Season 7 episode 1 "Image in the Sand" Odo tells Kira that the Romulans are stockpiling Plasma Torpedoes in the Hospital on the Bajoran moon.
I mean how can you stockpile balls of plasma in forcefields?
A photon torpedo (I thought) is constructed of the elementary element of light. If so it can be any color based off of its vibratory frequency.
Yes and no, the Photon torpedo itself is just that, a torpedo.
The glowing itslf is added dirung the launch.
It can be seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KwTW6EzY1c
4 minutes, 28 seconds into the scene "Bones, where's my torpedo?"
You can see Spock and Bones working on the actual torpedoe's guidance,
it only starts to glow as it leaves the tube.
And I totally agree it does not really matter what colour it has.
Besides, it changes arbitrarily between show and episodes sometimes.
For example the Cardassians had purple beams and torpedoes in their first
appearances and changed later on DS9 and the 7th season of TNG to yellow.
And I can tell you purple beams on Cardassian ships don't look really great.:)
A photon torpedo is a big metal box with a matter/anti-matter warhead in it. The "Photon" part of the name probably comes from the fact that they are warp capable devices and therefor can move at (or above) the speed of a photon.
The colors are probably dependent on propulsion systems and launcher mechanics. Which would easily explain the different colors seen in the show.
More information can be found on memory-alpha: http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Photon_torpedo
It might be possible that torpedoes house warp plasma which generaste thier warp filed through iteraction with the warp sustainer engine previously energized or inititated by the handoff coils in the tube.
If this is the case, the torpedo may be glowing like, and for the same reason as, the warp nacelles on the ships themselves.
Now this might imply that torpedoes should exhibit the same "glow" as the firing ship's warp nacelles...unless they utilize a different type of plasma in the torps. One might find it worthwhile to inject the plasma into the torpedo from the EPS just prior to launch, than to store it...though we know they can and do store plasma in Trek.
The color can also be an indication of the energy level of the warp plasma in the torp(not necessairly the explosive yield). It might not be a coincedence that Q-torps fly faster(is that canon?) if it turns out the warp plasms more highly energized, therefor possibly providing a stronger propulsion through the warp sustainer engine.
For instance, did the torp change color toward the higher energy spectrum when they increase the yield of a torp in canon?
In Star Fleet Battles (game) the Klingons had a ship called a Mauler. Essentially a D6 / D7 (light cruiser) built around a large weapon. Took time to build up a shot. Had other lighter weapons for defense. No I'm not a geek (or at least I keep telling myself this).