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Hi,

for Federations Ker'rat is one of the places where you can actually do some solo farming. Although the borg cube drop is weak, its still better than hostile encounters in Gamma sector for solo players.

A) invulnerable borgs merged into borg buildings.

Cryptic, how can it be that such an issue isnt solved? Its really annoying.

B) Klingons and its PvP setup.

How much horrid is the setup? Klingons fly around stealthed and wait for a federation
player to face a cube or more. They unstealth, two-volley **** you from the back and
restealth.

(Sorry for the caps, but...

How is this supposed to be IN ANY FORM ENJOYABLE FOR FEDERATIONS PLAYER?

3 Feds track a tactical cube out of the invicible borg house and fight it, a klingon unstealthes
and kicks the tank within 2 volleys and after all feds are easily destroyed he doesnt have to fear
being targeted by the tactical cube. No! All he does is turn invincible mode on again. Stealth.

And guess what he is doing next? TRIBBLE the next, and the next. I have been killed by 1 klingon 5 times in a row until I gave up and yelled "What a ******** game!"

I expect such disgusting patching speed from Command and Conquer and EA, who dont get a ****ing cent for their patches. But YOU get 15 euros a month, 3 month mean a damn whole new game! And you dont even fix the few instances available for RA5.

I am pretty upset currently. I payed you more than I payed for any other game. 55+15€ = 70€.

If you want me to hand you a single more cent you better fix this issue. Take it as constructive criticism and fix it, or take it as offense and ignore me. Results of each decision are obvious.

Regards,
Qhaikron
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Are you complaining about the patching speed of a test server?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Its the most tedious thing ever. Those Borg get stuck inside the nodes you're expected to scan...then they can shoot at you all they want but you can't target them at all. And every time you blow up a cube, two more show up...while that's convenient and entertaining - it doesn't work if you can't shoot back at them!

    The Klingons aren't too much of a hassle though, they're easily out maneuvered...and, in all fairness, if you think this is bad for Feds the Klingons have it even worse.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Alot of Common Ground is Bug fixes, Im sure theyve known of this issue and working on it.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Qhaikron wrote: »
    a klingon unstealthes and kicks the tank within 2 volleys

    That's not even remotely possible.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    You are in a PvP zone. Expect such to happen, or simply leave.

    God im simply getting sick and tired of the whining. If you want to play the game, you got to learn to take the pain.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    You are in a PvP zone. Expect such to happen, or simply leave.

    God im simply getting sick and tired of the whining. If you want to play the game, you got to learn to take the pain.

    There's a huge difference between dealing with tough opponents and dealing with BAD coding. One we look forward to dealing with, the other we should never have to deal with.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    So wait?

    There's actually other stuff to do in Ker'rat besides slaughter Feds? Who knew?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    OpenSorce wrote: »
    So wait?

    There's actually other stuff to do in Ker'rat besides slaughter Feds? Who knew?

    Yeah...massacring Klingons...and annihilating Borg. :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    You are in a PvP zone. Expect such to happen, or simply leave.

    God im simply getting sick and tired of the whining. If you want to play the game, you got to learn to take the pain.

    Who are you to tell me how I am supposed to enjoy the game? If you dont like my complains, what are you doing in my thread and why are you not playing the game? There is no other place where I can fight several cubes 1on1, as I said before. In hostile encounters 3 cubes swirl together with 4 spheres.

    It is a PvP zone. But PvP has absolutely NO sense there. PvP is in no way enhancing the game enjoyment at this map, other than for idiots at the klingon side who like to destroy the fun for feds.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Talk about bad code.....once you get to Kerrat and go into the instance....you simply change instance and all the borg ships are -44 to you. They don't attack you.. you can solo it in a minute.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    NinetyNine wrote:
    That's not even remotely possible.

    Klingons cannot destroy you within a few seconds?

    I fight a borg cube solo.
    The borg cube sucks my shields up.

    My escort has 30.000 health, and is without any shield against a cube.

    A single 4x torpedo does between 15.000 and 20.000 damage.
    A single cannon does at least 1.000 damage a second.
    Klingon has probably 3 cannons, doing 2.500 damage a second.

    So by the time the 4 torpedos arrive, which takes 5 seconds(?), my hull is damaged
    enough for the torpedos to do the rest.

    But according to you... thats not even remotely possible.

    ....
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Qhaikron wrote: »
    Klingons cannot destroy you within a few seconds?

    I fight a borg cube solo.
    The borg cube sucks my shields up.

    My escort has 30.000 health, and is without any shield against a cube.

    A single 4x torpedo does between 15.000 and 20.000 damage.
    A single cannon does at least 1.000 damage a second.
    Klingon has probably 3 cannons, doing 2.500 damage a second.

    So by the time the 4 torpedos arrive, which takes 5 seconds(?), my hull is damaged
    enough for the torpedos to do the rest.

    But according to you... thats not even remotely possible.

    ....

    Oh, with no shields, sure. That I could see.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Qhaikron wrote: »

    It is a PvP zone. But PvP has absolutely NO sense there. PvP is in no way enhancing the game enjoyment at this map, other than for idiots at the klingon side who like to destroy the fun for feds.

    Offcourse it makes sense! Its a competition between two factions to destroy the Borg before the other does. On the road you have the chance/option to destroy your competitors to give your side a higher rate of success.

    PvP in Ker`rat is no different then a Salvage Operation where you want to capture flags and hold them for points. And your sense off "enjoyment" is how YOU percieve and want it, but that doesnt mean that your way is the correct way for all of us. Others want to gank and seek out the opponents while others do the job. In my book thats legitemate cause it IS a PvP zone.

    I play strictly fed myself, and i`ve leared to accept that if i cant take the pain, i shouldnt play the game. No one is forcing you to do it. So stop making an issue of something that ISNT an issue.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Offcourse it makes sense! Its a competition between two factions to destroy the Borg before the other does. On the road you have the chance/option to destroy your competitors to give your side a higher rate of success.

    PvP in Ker`rat is no different then a Salvage Operation where you want to capture flags and hold them for points. And your sense off "enjoyment" is how YOU percieve and want it, but that doesnt mean that your way is the correct way for all of us. Others want to gank and seek out the opponents while others do the job. In my book thats legitemate cause it IS a PvP zone.

    I play strictly fed myself, and i`ve leared to accept that if i cant take the pain, i shouldnt play the game. No one is forcing you to do it. So stop making an issue of something that ISNT an issue.

    The goal of Fed at Ker'rat is to win the mission. If you win it, you get a counter +1. After 15 wins you get like 400-500 BOff points and 200 fleetpoints. This reward, honestly, is delivering zero motivation.

    The loot of borg cubes is by far more rewarding.

    And cloak adds to Klingons having a big advantage.

    So we have
    1. unfair PvP powers to win
    2. unreasonable low reward for the mission and comparable higher rewards if you just play it as PvE with Klingons being some (very) annoying sideeffect.

    And additionally: I payed for the game and I expect to be entertained. You are not the one to tell me to stop playing. As long as there is a chance the dev team can change the game to the better, I will voice my opinion.

    And a fair and entertaining game is obviously in the interest of the dev team. You fanboys stay anyway, the critical leave sooner or later.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    the purpose of Ker'rat is PVP. that's why it's a PVP-enabled map, in the neutral zone. if it were intended for solo PVE farming it would be in one of the many PVE sectors that feds get.

    I understand that you like the loot in Ker'rat, but that doesn't make it a PVE zone. all it means is that the good loot is the hardest to get (because you have to deal with Klingons). easier loot (where there's no Klingon interference) is lower quality simply because it's easier to get.

    -ken
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Snowreap wrote:
    the purpose of Ker'rat is PVP. that's why it's a PVP-enabled map, in the neutral zone. if it were intended for solo PVE farming it would be in one of the many PVE sectors that feds get.

    I understand that you like the loot in Ker'rat, but that doesn't make it a PVE zone. all it means is that the good loot is the hardest to get (because you have to deal with Klingons). easier loot (where there's no Klingon interference) is lower quality simply because it's easier to get.

    -ken

    Purpose is PvP?

    Whatfor should I PvP a Klingon there? I get nothing from killing a klingon.
    Whatfor should I win the mission? I get a few BO points after 2 hours.

    The PvP Motivation is ZERO on that map.

    Currently the PvP is only for Klingons who like to beat down Feds fighting shield-sucking borg. In an equal sense, players who like to kick people lying on the floor and feel satisfied by it. Over and over again.

    Thats just sick.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Try to level a Klingon and then come back whining. We have a few PvE missions that are all repeatable and on a 6 min timer once completed and all our other missions are PvP repeatable's. Also you get more way more xp than us, thus level faster. I have an RA5 and I know it is easier.
    We spend ages in queues for our PvP missions while Feds are busy killing stupid AI bots. If you actually PvP'd more and learned how Klingons work then you would have an easier time of it.

    In the end it is your choice to go into a war zone and your choice to pay the monthly fee. If you don't like it then go.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I wonder what part of the word "PvP" people is missing here.....

    Its a PvP map for goodness sake! Not some free stroll in and out killing borg and get your reward regardless how pathetic it is!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Borg Hunt is highly fun because of the Klingon presence. Without them lurking about it's fairly boring, with them it's unpredictable and fun. Double the threat, double the fun.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    *face palm*
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Well of course the Klingons are gonna blast ya. It's their mission to destroy the facility too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Borg Hunt is highly fun because of the Klingon presence. Without them lurking about it's fairly boring, with them it's unpredictable and fun. Double the threat, double the fun.

    And besides, were Starfleet captains. Taking chances and weirdness is part of the job.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    For a start it,s a PVPVE map. Best map in the whole game. Secondly if you are getting killed by Klingons it,s your own fault. Lost track of the number of times I,ve done it but I,ve nevver been killed by a Klingon and blown many of them away. The only trouble I've had is borgs inside structures.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Qhaikron wrote: »
    Purpose is PvP?

    Whatfor should I PvP a Klingon there? I get nothing from killing a klingon.
    Whatfor should I win the mission? I get a few BO points after 2 hours.

    The PvP Motivation is ZERO on that map.

    Currently the PvP is only for Klingons who like to beat down Feds fighting shield-sucking borg. In an equal sense, players who like to kick people lying on the floor and feel satisfied by it. Over and over again.

    Thats just sick.

    You should read what you and other people write before ranting. You state that there's no incentive for you here, yet at the same time tell everyone that you come here for the loot, that's better for you than elsewhere. To me, that sounds like an excellent incentive. The rewards are better for smaller effort (less computer enemies), yet there is a higher risk for this pay off (presence of Klingon players). You have plenty of reward for killing the Klingons -- access to your prime hunting ground, for goodness sakes!

    I don't see the problem here and I don't think anyone else does. It's Risk vs Reward. Not to mention it's also a PVP map, which you choose to ignore simply because the map fits into your easy-effort / short-time-spent desired ratio... and you want it even easier? You know exactly what you're getting into!

    Other things, like obvious bugs, are clearly legitimate complaints.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    AHHHHH The Borg Hunt map, good times, good times. I go there to PvP as I hate ques.

    You might of seen my Sov patrolling the out skirts of the map, while everyone else goes in to fight the Borg. Only had one group of Klingon's surprise me in that map, while I was fighting a Borg sphere, never got their names but to them I say....good game, made me understand more that I need to look behind me more often and listen.

    I've gotten my butt handed to me a few times, and I also handed a few Klingon's their butts. In the end it's all fun and games.

    So in short if you go into that map. expect some Klingon's to make a game of you. :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Qhaikron wrote: »
    Purpose is PvP?

    Whatfor should I PvP a Klingon there? I get nothing from killing a klingon.
    Whatfor should I win the mission? I get a few BO points after 2 hours.

    The PvP Motivation is ZERO on that map.

    Currently the PvP is only for Klingons who like to beat down Feds fighting shield-sucking borg. In an equal sense, players who like to kick people lying on the floor and feel satisfied by it. Over and over again.

    Thats just sick.

    If your PvP motivation is zero, that doesnt mean it doesnt exist for other players. There are enough PvE to do in the game, if you dont like this map, you can fight the Borg in "Defend Gamma Orionis" or such quests, those are strictly PvE space maps where you can fight your cubes without enemy players presence. You can PvE in Btran or Zenas Expanse and get your marks/badges there.

    Thing is you just want to spoil fun for Klingon players like me who like to PvP. I tell you its fun killing other players Kerrat, coming out of cloak as they fight Borg, killing them with all those nasty combos and run away, cloak and repeat. Over and over again - yes it is fun to me and that is why I am there. You dont need to be there, you have option to do PvE only, but if you come there, you will be attacked.

    If you dont like PvP, then dont PvP. But dont tell other players not to PvP.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    My only issue witht he map were the borg ships hiding inside objects. It took me a while to understand it was actually a PVP map and there were Klingons around, too.

    There are good loot drops, you say? I think I'll have to try out that map again. Especially once the bugs are fixed. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I enjoy the map myself escept for the borg cubes being buged. As for the pvp it adds a fun element to it I think knowing that you always have to be ready for a suprise attack.(I enjoy it on both my fed and klingon). Tha being said I think most people are missing the OPs point. I could be wrong but i dont think it is the pvp that bothered him as much as the fact that he gets ganked while trying to fight mobs at the same time that have already droped his shields, but as others have said maybe this map just isnt for you if it makes you so mad. It adds some fun to other wise rather boring content for klingon players and for feds as well who like to pvp. If you form up groups you could have some ships not engaged watching your six while you and another group fight the borg. It is plans like this that make it fun.:D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Its a WAR zone. Its there for PVP. The borg cubes are simply objectives within a larger, PVP framework. You consent to PVP by entering the zone. If you enter, you are fair game and have no right to complain about dying to other players in a WAR zone. The WAR part is important. This zone is not there for you, or anyone else, to farm.

    The borg getting stuck thing though is known and definitely needs fixing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    You are in a PvP zone. Expect such to happen, or simply leave.

    God im simply getting sick and tired of the whining. If you want to play the game, you got to learn to take the pain.

    The choices for content at max rank is pretty bleak. You have B'tran cluster, Gather data samples for the millionth time or enemyless confrontations aka glitched. Most people leave the ground missions so its even more a wack a mole.

    You got PvP, with a terrible faction imbalance that is causing a very long queue. Horrible ground combat mechanics, and uncounter-able space holds.

    Enemy signal contacts, very hard to solo, very rough on the fingers if done for any length of time. More battery drops then you can shake an energizer bunny at.

    And ker'ak, with buggie borg that only heighten the players frustration level and you have the nerve to call someone a whiner when your sig has a link to a post recommending vast, huge, changes to the game.

    Kettle, meet pot.
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