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I know on these forums for games its common for complaints and negativity to spread, but think about the launch of this game compared to others, they are doing a good job and deserve praise and ideas.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    agreed, though Feedback is usually negaitve, because it usually a bug that ****es us off. Though the dev are doing a good job fixing the problems and letting us know what they are working on.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    As do I. I think the game was released before they had everything they wanted in it. It is aslo one of the better launches I have seen. The only real problems I had was some disconnects. Which most of were last week. It is a very good game I like it best of the MMO's I have played.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    This game was rushed because Atari is banking on it, there are rumors of them going bankrupt. I think considering how rushed the game was the devs have been good about asking us what to improve.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I've been praising the devs from the get go, and despite all the bugs with the game, I've loved every min I've played of this game. And I love the developers for their inclusion of us in the gaming process. Not even Blizzard does that with Warcraft.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Stop making excuses for the devs, it was an aweful launch of a bad game, simples.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Hirikan wrote: »
    Stop making excuses for the devs, it was an aweful launch of a bad game, simples.

    What excuses? That Atari forced Cryptic to rush the game out with a pre-determined deadline? That's no excuse, that's fact. Atari is the official publisher of Star Trek Online. They say when the game and its expansions are to be released. Not Cryptic. If Cryptic were the publisher AND the developer like Blizzard is with World of Warcraft, then this game would've been released later this year.

    And this game is by no means a "bad game". Star Trek: Legacy - There's a bad game. Age of Conan - There's a bad game. Warhammer - There's a REALLY bad game.

    STO may not be on Warcraft's level yet, but it is by no means a bad game. It's the best Star Trek game I've ever played, and the one that comes closest to emulating Star Trek and Starfleet.

    If you don't like the game, feel free to stop playing it and leave the forums.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Hirikan wrote: »
    Stop making excuses for the devs, it was an aweful launch of a bad game, simples.

    Sorry, In my experience with MMORPGs you are absolutely wrong. I have played nearly 40 MMORPGs at launch and none of them had gone as smoothly at STO. Actually, my four highest ranking MMORPG launches in reverse order are STO, CO, PotBS, and CoH. none of them were flawless but they are the best and smoothest. Cryptic is often overlooked for their capacity in deployment and attentive maintenance during the birth of a MMORPG.

    I give Cryptic a thumbs up for the launch and two thumbs up for the damage control the implementation of the "transparency" policy and pro-action preforms. They are really stepping forward in new and interesting ways. In a year or so people will criticize the MMORPG launches because they don't have a transparency policy... something Cryptic is setting a precedent for.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Hirikan wrote: »
    Stop making excuses for the devs, it was an aweful launch of a bad game, simples.

    When you say this you should consider who you are talking about, when I say devs I mean the individual programmers who are mostly following orders trying to make a great game despite this. To that I say great job!

    If there is blame to assign here it goes to Atari then maybe Cryptic management who assigned a release date that was to early. Then when it was obvious in beta testing that the game could not be ready they would not modify that date. This game needed/needs a few more months of development before it will be ready for release. If I could I would find out who was responsible ultimately for that decision and ruin him/her the way STO was so nearly ruined.

    What's the saying "you only get one chance at a first impression" I think Atari would have made more money in the end if they hadn't rushed and put out a polished product that doesn't turn off all but the hard core Star Trek fans.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Ayenn wrote:
    In a year or so people will criticize the MMORPG launches because they don't have a transparency policy... something Cryptic is setting a precedent for.

    yes, and sadly, when Blizzard takes this idea and implements it for Warcraft, everyone will be praising them for "introducing" this new transparency policy.

    -wonders if Cryptic can/should patent while they can- rofl
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Props to the devs, the game is good. It's not perfect, but it's good. IMHO.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Thank you Dev's! STill playing, still having fun!:)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    DKizz wrote: »
    I know on these forums for games its common for complaints and negativity to spread, but think about the launch of this game compared to others, they are doing a good job and deserve praise and ideas.

    I really like Zinc's hair in the latest video.

    I wonder what product he uses...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    ChiefBrex wrote: »
    yes, and sadly, when Blizzard takes this idea and implements it for Warcraft, everyone will be praising them for "introducing" this new transparency policy.

    -wonders if Cryptic can/should patent while they can- rofl

    ActiBlizz may pick it up but I have a feeling it will not impact that community quite the same way it seems to be in the STO community. Now if Cryptic expands this to CO and then implements it right off the bat with their next project it could become a Cryptic signature feature. If that is done it would go a LONG way to healing the bad blood, largely inappropriately applied to Cryptic, over time.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    ChiefBrex wrote: »
    Age of Conan - There's a bad game

    Well, i would prolly put STO even with Age of Conan. If you seriously mean that STO has been better at launch then AoC, i would recommend you take your fanboi glasses off.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    DKizz wrote: »
    I know on these forums for games its common for complaints and negativity to spread, but think about the launch of this game compared to others, they are doing a good job and deserve praise and ideas.

    Why? they dont deserve any.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Masses wrote:
    Well, i would prolly put STO even with Age of Conan. If you seriously mean that STO has been better at launch then AoC, i would recommend you take your fanboi glasses off.

    Actually, the deployment process for STO has been better. It has been far more stable and less exploitative.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010

    A barrel of Blood Wine for the Devs!!! :D

    Here, here!

    STO is my first MMO so I have no experience with others, but I feel that the launch of STO went relatively smoothly and updates seem to be comming along nicely, patches and maintenence are pretty fast.

    I've tested a couple of new fixes and updates on the Tribble Server and I can't wait for it all to be patched into the Live Server!

    Well I can wait, and have plenty of things to keep me busy in STO although i do now feel like I would rarther be playing in the Tribble Server but it gets very lonely in there, it's almost like a space simulator, empty compared to the Live Server anyway. LoL :p

    The Devs also deserve a big round of applause for all of the responces we have been recieving from them within the forum.

    Thumbs up from me to the OP!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Hirikan wrote: »
    Stop making excuses for the devs, it was an aweful launch of a bad game, simples.

    Actually it was a pretty good launch as they go, but I believe everyone knows the game was rushed by now. That dead horse is gonna come back to life and start hitting you back with your own stick if you arent careful. ;)

    I think the devs deserve points for their efforts. Its the "big wigs" that make the decisions like putting the game out asap, not the devs working on it. But it is the devs who are working like mad to get things the way it should have been and it is that effort that we should be praising. Not condemning.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    ChiefBrex wrote: »
    What excuses? the developer like Blizzard is with World of Warcraft, then this game would've been released later this year.
    .
    Like BLIZZARD,?????C'mon bro-if they so great why is STARCRAFT 2 taking a million years when no new races added?

    and that's the facts. :cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Masses wrote:
    Well, i would prolly put STO even with Age of Conan. If you seriously mean that STO has been better at launch then AoC, i would recommend you take your fanboi glasses off.

    Right. Everyone that I know in this game, and have spoken to share the same view Ayenn and I do - STO had a much smoother launch than most MMOs, including Warcraft's. If anyone needs their eyes checked it's you friend.


    @SpockDawg: First of all - post all of my post from that, rather than editing it and making it look like I said something else. Here is what I said in its entirety:
    ChiefBrex wrote:
    What excuses? That Atari forced Cryptic to rush the game out with a pre-determined deadline? That's no excuse, that's fact. Atari is the official publisher of Star Trek Online. They say when the game and its expansions are to be released. Not Cryptic. If Cryptic were the publisher AND the developer like Blizzard is with World of Warcraft, then this game would've been released later this year.

    Secondly - you made my point exactly. Blizzard is BOTH publisher and developer of all of its games. The reason Starcraft 2 is taking so long to be released is because Blizzard is: 1) focusing a lot of energy and attention on WoW, because that is their biggest money maker and 2) is trying to polish off Starcraft 2 so that is has a nice live release and doesn't have half the QQing that people are doing on these forums over STO's rushed release. That's the advantage of being both publisher and developer - you choose your own schedule. Cryptic doesn't have that option. And yet sadly, people are attacking/hating on the devs for something they can't control.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I think the game is going well overall. It's a bit boring and sterile but I keep logging in. I think some new PvP space maps would go a long way, or at least somehow incentivize the existing maps so the PvP is more well rounded. I honestly think PvP is a driving force in this game. Cryptic should continue to focus on the PvP aspects as much as possible.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Thanks for the responses, I think people are being too impatient about the content. Sure there was a release that had lacking content for Klingons, but they were pressured to get the game out now. I am not planning to leave because I know this game is going to GET BETTER. The devs seem to listen to the fan base better than other companies and it would be a mistake to cancel your sub now. That is just my opinion.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    DKizz wrote: »
    I know on these forums for games its common for complaints and negativity to spread, but think about the launch of this game compared to others, they are doing a good job and deserve praise and ideas.

    /agree the Devs should be the first to be praised for jobs that are well done.

    I'm also a vocal proponet of telling them off when they TRIBBLE something up.

    Props to all the Devs that are working on and fixing the game.

    -Sil
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    YAY! Dev's, I'm going to send you some coffee for all your hard work.:)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    DKizz wrote: »
    I know on these forums for games its common for complaints and negativity to spread, but think about the launch of this game compared to others, they are doing a good job and deserve praise and ideas.

    Thanks Dev's ! From your friendly nieghborhood recruiter..whould you guys like one of my tribbles ?
    Great FUN game ! :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Right. Everyone that I know in this game, and have spoken to share the same view Ayenn and I do - STO had a much smoother launch than most MMOs, including Warcraft's. If anyone needs their eyes checked it's you friend.

    Probably user error. Hell i even played SWG on Bria....BRIA..and it wasnt as bad as this. I think you all have short memories. On WoW launch i started on Destromath, i know some servers like Blackrock had issues but to claim, as a whole, it was worse than this? Yea... sure..whatever you say.

    I do add, however, that they did fix up the issues nicely. No issues during my play time in quite a long time.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    In General I agree, the dev's have done a good job save for 1 aspect.

    Communicating with the Klingon Players !!!

    4 posts in the klingon gameplay feedback section of the forums (none of which have anything to do with the post) (moving, locked ect)

    They can do better than this.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I'l go with a +1 on this :)

    Its a new game - I expected issues. True - they brought some hurt on themselves (that whole weekend thing probably not a good move hehe), but for the most part things are being addressed and in a fairly timely manner (these ARE humans - even when some GM claim they have robots on the team they can only do so much every 24 hrs :D )

    I'm not into the issues of their release timing (hey - at least it got released - Duke Nukem will never see the day of light) or content (yes, more is always better - but I want more money too and it doesn't fall in my lap :) ) - as long as I continue to see active posts and attempts to engage the community and issues we find I'm good to go :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Like all mmo's at launch it has had good and bad, but overall, the staff at crytpic seem to be doing a good job, and I am gald they have allot of cummunication with the community.. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Probably user error. Hell i even played SWG on Bria....BRIA..and it wasnt as bad as this. I think you all have short memories. On WoW launch i started on Destromath, i know some servers like Blackrock had issues but to claim, as a whole, it was worse than this? Yea... sure..whatever you say.

    I do add, however, that they did fix up the issues nicely. No issues during my play time in quite a long time.

    /agee You can give credit where credit is due.

    In my opinion STO had a smoother launch, they just have a whole lot less of everything else that makes a MMO.

    I was able to play and they fixed the login issues pretty fast etc on launch day, but now i'm stuck with craptastic gameplay.

    They havent fixed that yet. Ground combat and planet exploration is a joke. Not to mention crafting, if thats what it is. I could go on buut many otheres already and continue to do so.

    This isn't fun, for me at least

    A smooth lauch does not an MMO make.

    -Sil
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