Hi, I'm colour blind, which means that when making characters I can't know for sure what colour I'm making my character's uniforms and ships. For example: I was worried for a long time that I'd made my character's uniform bright green instead of engineering gold, luckily I think It's actually right. Also there is a good chance my ship is actually purple instead of the blue I wanted.
There would be a simple solution if the Devs wouldn't mind implementing it. Add a box under the colour select one that says the name of the colour your mouse is hovering over.
I am not colorblind, but this seem very useful for the rest of us too.
I always wanted to make sure I pick the same colors for certain uniform parts and having so many shades (and not having a tooltip to show exactly what values those are) makes it a bit difficult to match them. i go as far as to say we'd need RGB values shown, not just names.
Also, this seems like a very small fix to make many people happy so...
Good to see people supporting this. Is posting on here the best way to get the dev's attention or is there another way to bring issues like this to their attention?
The director for Star Trek:The Animated Series was color blind. That is why there is an abundance of pink in the colorizations. He kept his condition hidden at the time, he thought he was using Gray and no one was brave enough to question his color choices.
Maybe we can post the color palettes with descriptions of the color ranges.
Of course it would be nice, if you are using a color palette, it would tooltip a name for the color when you hovered over it a moment, or tooltip by holding down the alt key.
Of course it would be nice, if you are using a color palette, it would tooltip a name for the color when you hovered over it a moment, or tooltip by holding down the alt key.
This, absolutely this. I think this would be ultimately helpful even for us non-colorblind folks. Even it it was nothing more than "green with %20 black" to indicate a darkish green instead of something like "forest green" which really means nothing to anyone.
/signed . I had this same problem with City of Heros. I was walking around for a year with green hair. In STO I have also had problems seeing drops during ground combat in the bases with the bright white floors.
The director for Star Trek:The Animated Series was color blind. That is why there is an abundance of pink in the colorizations. He kept his condition hidden at the time, he thought he was using Gray and no one was brave enough to question his color choices.
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It's true I myself have often mistaken Pink for Gray it's not good!
I am colorblind as well. I just gave up on trying to have a normal hair color and just went bald out of frustration. Tool tips of what color they are would fix it.
Until they fix this, I created a list of haircolor approximations from the Haircolor Selector in game.
The Haircolor Selector is a 21 row (horizontal) by 24 column (vertical) matrix.
The following list refer to color boxes identified by these rows and columns.
Blonde ... r7, c11
Brown .... r4, c1 ... (row 3, column 24 is also good, a bit darker brown)
Auburn ... r2, c1
Red ...... r2, c3
Black .... r6, c24
Grey ..... r6, c10
White .... r6, c13
... so if you want to make a Blonde character, you pick the box in row 7 and column 11.
So on.
Row 6 is entirely black and white (grayscale) colors.
Any colors from that results in shades of grey.
Until they fix this, I created a list of haircolor approximations from the Haircolor Selector in game.
The Haircolor Selector is a 21 row (horizontal) by 24 column (vertical) matrix.
The following list refer to color boxes identified by these rows and columns.
Blonde ... r7, c11
Brown .... r4, c1 ... (row 3, column 24 is also good, a bit darker brown)
Auburn ... r2, c1
Red ...... r2, c3
Black .... r6, c24
Grey ..... r6, c10
White .... r6, c13
... so if you want to make a Blonde character, you pick the box in row 7 and column 11.
So on.
Row 6 is entirely black and white (grayscale) colors.
Any colors from that results in shades of grey.
Once again, good to see the support for this idea! Seems like everyone thinks it would be useful so how do we get it to the Cryptic team's attention?
Posting this thread has almost certainly taken care of that. It's obvious that they do read the forums.
You could also PM it to a dev. Pick the one you think is most likely to be associated with the character creator, and ask them to pass it on if you guessed wrong.
One thing I noticed that CO also lacks this feature (regardless of the fact that it has tons of feaetures in its UI that STO people have been begging for, for ages, like the ability to "Freeze" the character you are creating so it stops fidgeting, or the larger, more visible mouse pointer ... so on).
Some sort of text based label for the color would be a good idea to add to help colorblind players.
Lots of colors would be hard to label. There are many colors for some palettes, so maybe just a hue label? (Red, Orange, etc)
Any other ideas?
The short term solution would be to just show the Red, Green, Blue values of the boxes in a tooltip.
1) "192 64 0".
2) "221 109 91"
3) "255 190 164"
Later on, this could be extended to add the name of the color to the tooltip as well, if it matches a particular, named color.
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I always wanted to make sure I pick the same colors for certain uniform parts and having so many shades (and not having a tooltip to show exactly what values those are) makes it a bit difficult to match them. i go as far as to say we'd need RGB values shown, not just names.
Also, this seems like a very small fix to make many people happy so...
/signed
The director for Star Trek:The Animated Series was color blind. That is why there is an abundance of pink in the colorizations. He kept his condition hidden at the time, he thought he was using Gray and no one was brave enough to question his color choices.
Maybe we can post the color palettes with descriptions of the color ranges.
Of course it would be nice, if you are using a color palette, it would tooltip a name for the color when you hovered over it a moment, or tooltip by holding down the alt key.
This, absolutely this. I think this would be ultimately helpful even for us non-colorblind folks. Even it it was nothing more than "green with %20 black" to indicate a darkish green instead of something like "forest green" which really means nothing to anyone.
/signed
It's true I myself have often mistaken Pink for Gray it's not good!
Just keep bumping the thread every week or so until they put it into the Engineering Reports or there is an official Dev or Mod reply.
Maybe Picard's parents were also colorblind?
/bad joke to bump thread for the benefit of the community
There are worse ways to bump a thread!
The Haircolor Selector is a 21 row (horizontal) by 24 column (vertical) matrix.
The following list refer to color boxes identified by these rows and columns.
Blonde ... r7, c11
Brown .... r4, c1 ... (row 3, column 24 is also good, a bit darker brown)
Auburn ... r2, c1
Red ...... r2, c3
Black .... r6, c24
Grey ..... r6, c10
White .... r6, c13
... so if you want to make a Blonde character, you pick the box in row 7 and column 11.
So on.
Row 6 is entirely black and white (grayscale) colors.
Any colors from that results in shades of grey.
Thanks a lot for this info. Very useful!
/signed.
This would be a great implementation!!!!
Posting this thread has almost certainly taken care of that. It's obvious that they do read the forums.
You could also PM it to a dev. Pick the one you think is most likely to be associated with the character creator, and ask them to pass it on if you guessed wrong.
Then you KNOW it's gotten to them.
Oh, and, even though I'm not colorblind,
/SIGNED!
i agree it is needed.
One thing I noticed that CO also lacks this feature (regardless of the fact that it has tons of feaetures in its UI that STO people have been begging for, for ages, like the ability to "Freeze" the character you are creating so it stops fidgeting, or the larger, more visible mouse pointer ... so on).
By the way, if your avatar is your character, then that hair is a pretty good light brown!
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Lots of colors would be hard to label. There are many colors for some palettes, so maybe just a hue label? (Red, Orange, etc)
Any other ideas?
Grab a copy of rgb.txt from X? Some ~750 named colours. Pick whatever's closest.
1) "192 64 0".
2) "221 109 91"
3) "255 190 164"
Later on, this could be extended to add the name of the color to the tooltip as well, if it matches a particular, named color.
For example:
1) "Mahogany (192 64 0)".
2) "Light Mahogany (221 109 91)"
3) "Very Light Mahogany (255 190 164)"
... so on.
(src: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahogany_(color) )
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Two Options Please. These would display when there is any option to chose colors (on character creation, at tailors, during starship modifications):
1. Display color name (red,green,yellow, etc.)
2. Display RGB values.
These are not "must" options, but they would be nice. Too bad I don't have a HUD that shows me what colors are what in real life