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ok our fleet has been trying to complete infected now for 4 days... when the stf first came out we were completing it at least once a day but now that you guys have put a timer into the final room the only people who are able to complete the instance are people with expensive computer....not everyone has an expensive computer which means not everyone is able to do the jumping in the room which in turn makes it literally impossible to complete... by the time we can get to the last force feild the first 2 have reinitialized... only once were we all able to get the middle down and even then you need enough time to kill that generator before the timer runs out...[edit] did you guys read like a couple post from hardcore players and decide it wasnt hard enough for them....im sure if you do a poll...95% of people cannot complete that level with the timer


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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Neroly wrote:
    ok our fleet has been trying to complete infected now for 4 days... when the stf first came out we were completing it at least once a day but now that you guys have put a timer into the final room the only people who are able to complete the instance are people with expensive computer....not everyone has an expensive computer which means not everyone is able to do the jumping in the room which in turn makes it literally impossible to complete... by the time we can get to the last force feild the first 2 have reinitialized... only once were we all able to get the middle down and even then you need enough time to kill that generator before the timer runs out...[edit]... did you guys read like a couple post from hardcore players and decide it wasnt hard enough for them....im sure if you do a poll...95% of people cannot complete that level with the timer

    I wholeheartedly agree with you! Even managed just to get 1/4 of the generator down before the forcefield popped up. That when I didn't get stuck inside of the damn forcefield, or get pushed inside of it by a push attack of the borgs! The way out when someone dies? Beam out and beam in... result? Start from the room of the first boss!


    Seriously, what were they thinking when they decided to put a timer in this? It was so much better without this damn timer!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Are you looking for peer tech support about improving the performance on a sub $2000 system?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    yah my computer is set up exactly how the thread suggested as well as tweeking my nvidia sysem and yet i get to that finally room and with all the effects in there it doesnt matter what your system is set too...if you dont run at 60fps or more then you may as well not even bother with the instance
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I don't think the computer is the problem. You might look in other threads for hints on how to beat this.

    Also for those using exploits to win, shame on you, but they are being patched very soon..........
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Is there an actual problem we can help youw ith? Or did you click Tech support thinking it said general STO discussion?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    NEWS FLASH!!

    You don't need one.

    My old single core with this parts:

    Asus A8N-SLI Mainboard
    AMD Athlon 64 skt 939 3500+ (Single Core)
    2gb ddr400 Kingston ValueRAM (Not the overclocking stuff)
    XFX Geforce 7600GT
    1Tb Sata (7200RPM) HD (40 bucks at Fry's, to replace my old IDE Drive that died)

    Played this game with only one knockdown on the graphics settings (IE Full down one notch if you get the drift).

    With no lag what so ever (until a patch).

    That was an 900 Buck Upgrade, and I just replaced pretty much everything for 800 bucks.

    Ya Don't need one!

    Ty Newegg :P

    Upgrade from my origional 500 buck computer.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Focke-Wulf wrote: »
    NEWS FLASH!!

    You don't need one.

    My old single core with this parts:

    Asus A8N-SLI Mainboard
    AMD Athlon 64 skt 939 3500+ (Single Core)
    2gb ddr400 Kingston ValueRAM (Not the overclocking stuff)
    XFX Geforce 7600GT
    1Tb Sata (7200RPM) HD (40 bucks at Fry's, to replace my old IDE Drive that died)

    Played this game with only one knockdown on the graphics settings (IE Full down one notch if you get the drift).

    With no lag what so ever (until a patch).

    That was an 900 Buck Upgrade, and I just replaced pretty much everything for 800 bucks.

    Ya Don't need one!

    Ty Newegg :P

    Upgrade from my origional 500 buck computer.

    You don't say what resolution you're running at (it really bugs me when people don't mention it as the higher resolutions are the main PC killer).

    I'll guess it's not at 1920x1200........
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    the problem is the timer...simply put... with the platforming and the timer...unless you all have 60 fps machines the room is impossible to complete.... you ask why did i post in this thread...pc and technical...well the problem is both pc and technical
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I have a pretty mediocre system at a dual core 2.66 4 GB RAM and a decent 275GTX card,hardly 2000 dollars worth and I finish this instance no problem even with the game near maxed out(highest res on my 24"monitor).

    I would suggest if you are having problems with the timer and the speed you need to move at then lower your resolution or other settings so it will run faster for you,tbh you can not expect to have this instance changed to solve players with lower specs pc's...though lets keep it real,you do not need a $2000 pc to run it even at maxed out settings.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Neroly wrote:
    .[edit] did you guys read like a couple post from hardcore players and decide it wasnt hard enough for them....im sure if you do a poll...95% of people cannot complete that level with the timer


    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Seadgir


    27%...17%....2%...

    You see what I did there? I just made up some numbers like you did.Try what I posted above if that does not work try the general post section for complaints.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I can say pretty much for sure that no dev has a work machine that costs that much (SuperMartin uses his own computer because he is weird, might be nicer), so we would be hard pressed to require it :-)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    $2000?

    Geez, my system (see sig) didn't cost anywhere near $2000.... heck, if I'd had 2k I could have gotten a very nice new monitor to go with it, instead of reusing this 19-inch Samsung (I play at 1280x1024).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I've finshed the mission like 9 times with only 20-30 fps. Sure I could drop everything from highest and get maybe 100+ fps, but 20-30 is certainly doable. Though if you've got bad latency, that may make you miss quite a few landings. Also my 8 year old computer does 30 fps with everything on high, given that most things are greyed out and there are still 3 caps I'd like to replace on the board.

    At any rate for dropping the shield is just a matter of moving from a to b to c to d without having to res anyone and knowing how to use melee + a knockback weapon well. That and learning to press the button together without having to do a countdown every time.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    My computer cost only around $500 or so and I can play the game with excellent framerate.
    the only lag I get is network lag.. never graphical lag.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I play Star Trek Online on a laptop that I picked up on eBay for 526 Euros.

    And it runs the game at near maximum settings. No lag ever. Even when I'm in a fleet action with over a dozen other players.

    If the OP actually wants help perhaps he could post his hardware, then people could help him to find cheap hardware upgrades.

    Unless his real goal is just to cry on the forums about an imaginary issue... if that's the case then perhaps a mod should just close this thread?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I paid $650 USD for my current Desktop. I added a $150 Radeon 5770, and I am able to play on the highest settings at no less than 60fps in most areas. This can dip to around 40 in very demanding situations. If your machine is falling behind on the framerates, then adjust the video settings appropriately. It's that simple.

    Also, to the poster who said when you die the only thing to do is respawn and start over: WRONG. Even if you fall in the plasma, it is quite easy to make it out alive. Simply have another member of your team get as close as possible to you. They should be able to rez you from a platform. As soon as they do, run and jump like a madman until you are out of the plasma. It might take multiple rezs to make it but it certainly beats having to do the whole thing over again.

    In addition to that, something that will help with the timers is making sure that when all 4 generators are deactivated, atleast one teammate gets as close as they can to the generator in the center. This way, even if the shield goes back up, they will be inside of it and they can take it down with ease. Spend that time positioning yourself for the boss fight.

    Hopefully we won't really need this exploit when the Borg respawn timers are fixed. But it works wonders for the time being. My last 2 runs of the Infected have been done in less than an hour.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    nothing beats building your own system:D

    most serious gamer do. its a lot cheaper and and you end up with a system that costs around 7000-800 bucks that out performs system you or or buy from stores costing 2000 bucks or more.

    mine cost around $750 to build with a 24" wide screen flat panel monitor and can run every thing on the market at max including this game. only game it hasn't been able to is ms flight sim x. i also built a media center pc for around $500 it hokked to my 42" hi def tv and it it also run this game at max .

    i can say this game looks sharp on on a 42" hi def tv running through a surround sound system :D

    and basically the gaming rig is using a amd phenom 2 quad core and a nvidia 9800gtx with 1gb vram and 4gb sys ram.
    the media center is just a amd dual core with a radeon 4350 with 512mb vram and only 2 gb sys ram. both with windows 7 64 bit. both handles this game at max nicely.

    so this game most defiantly does not even require any thing near a top of the line machine to run decently.
    most store bought pc's even ones from dell are not configured or built properly in the first . the one that are you pay thru the nose for and even those machine cost the companies that built them less than $1000 and the one you buy at walmart for $500 are actually built with spare parts laying around some parts being 4 or 5 years old which is the why they run the way they do. and people that buy these machines are what keeps me in business so i can pay to play STO
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    hobieone wrote:
    nothing beats building your own system:D

    most serious gamer do. its a lot cheaper and and you end up with a system that costs around 7000-800 bucks that out performs system you or or buy from stores costing 2000 bucks or more.

    mine cost around $750 to build with a 24" wide screen flat panel monitor and can run every thing on the market at max including this game. only game it hasn't been able to is ms flight sim x. i also built a media center pc for around $500 it hokked to my 42" hi def tv and it it also run this game at max .

    i can say this game looks sharp on on a 42" hi def tv running through a surround sound system :D

    and basically the gaming rig is using a amd phenom 2 quad core and a nvidia 9800gtx with 1gb vram and 4gb sys ram.
    the media center is just a amd dual core with a radeon 4350 with 512mb vram and only 2 gb sys ram. both with windows 7 64 bit. both handles this game at max nicely.

    so this game most defiantly does not even require any thing near a top of the line machine to run decently.
    most store bought pc's even ones from dell are not configured or built properly in the first . the one that are you pay thru the nose for and even those machine cost the companies that built them less than $1000 and the one you buy at walmart for $500 are actually built with spare parts laying around some parts being 4 or 5 years old which is the why they run the way they do. and people that buy these machines are what keeps me in business so i can pay to play STO

    Actually, once you get over the £2000 mark it's cheaper to get the PC built for you (at least in the UK) - I've built all my PC's except for my current one, which was around 10-15% cheaper to have built than buy the seperate components. I also got a 3 year warranty, free delivery, the PC was stress tested, free games, a strange laptop bag (I bought a desktop) and a 10,000 RPM raptor thrown in for free.

    But yes, generally, building your own is cheaper.
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