I know this has probably been posted in the past. I want to bring this back up to hopefully get it looked at. The ranking of the characters is just wrong. There shouldn'd be so many admirals running around and in fact captaining ships. Here is my suggestion to fix the problem.
At captain that is it. You dont get a new rank as you level. If they ever take the game past 45 and past say 51 where you would say rank. You dont get a new rank but a new class of ship.
I know this has probably been posted in the past. I want to bring this back up to hopefully get it looked at. The ranking of the characters is just wrong. There shouldn'd be so many admirals running around and in fact captaining ships. Here is my suggestion to fix the problem.
At captain that is it. You dont get a new rank as you level. If they ever take the game past 45 and past say 51 where you would say rank. You dont get a new rank but a new class of ship.
I'm for this...you could also add Fleet Captain and Commodore as they were both in TOS.
Indeed. The ranks are not going to change as per dev statement. I would guess the reason is fundamental alteration of the entire leveling schema. To change ranks would essentially mean a near complete reformatting of almost every bit of mission text, and system code. If one thing is missed the entire system would cease to function.
Admirals did indeed have their own ships and engage in fleet actions in the TV shows. It was a frequent thing in TNG as well as First Contact.
It was stated by Riker in All Good Things... (and I believe before this) that one of the perks of being an Admiral is that you get to choose your own ship. And in times of war (like we are in now) all ships are needed.
I would just like to inform everyone viewing this thread that I have just posted a huge update to my thread regarding the Rank Structure, the new post is on page #17 within my thread and contains a wide selection of Content Suggestions to be associated with the Ranks, please remember they are only suggestions.
I would just like to inform everyone viewing this thread that I have just posted a huge update to my thread regarding the Rank Structure, the new post is on page #17 within my thread and contains a wide selection of Content Suggestions to be associated with the Ranks, please remember they are only suggestions.
There is a lot to read, if you have not previously viewed the thread.
Dude, I have seen your thread. I shake my head every time I see you have updated it. nearly 200 posts and about 1/2 of them are yours. Cryptic has concisely stated they are not going to change the ranks.
Dude, I have seen your thread. I shake my head every time I see you have updated it. nearly 200 posts and about 1/2 of them are yours. Cryptic has concisely stated they are not going to change the ranks.
ya he just tryed to so on his that they havent told me one thing he wont here at beta
I would just like to inform everyone viewing this thread that I have just posted a huge update to my thread regarding the Rank Structure, the new post is on page #17 within my thread and contains a wide selection of Content Suggestions to be associated with the Ranks, please remember they are only suggestions.
There is a lot to read, if you have not previously viewed the thread.
The problem with your system is I agree with the OP of THIS thread that rank should stop below admiral. You advocate adding 5 admiral ranks which I do not agree with.
Dude, I have seen your thread. I shake my head every time I see you have updated it. nearly 200 posts and about 1/2 of them are yours. Cryptic has concisely stated they are not going to change the ranks.
ya he just tryed to so on his that they havent told me one thing he wont here at beta
Please read post #151 which is the first post on page 16 within my thread, it contains a reply from dstahl which contradicts everything you're saying. Also I'll have you know I was here before beta, during beta, I'm still here now and I'll be here for the rest of my life as a lifer, thank you very much.
What do you have against everything in my thread anyway? Have you two even read it?
You both seem to have very closed opinions on the subject and you also both seem to have very little respect for people who like to help others, offer suggestions and attept to contibute to the community. Where as you're both posting absolute useless, unimaginative and uncreative information.
Please read post #151 which is the first post on page 16 within my thread, it contains a reply from dstahl which contradicts everything you're saying. Also I'll have you know I was here before beta, during beta, I'm still here now and I'll be here for the rest of my life as a lifer, thank you very much.
What do you have against everything in my thread anyway? Have you two even read it?
You both seem to have very closed opinions on the subject and you also both seem to have very little respect for people who like to help others, offer suggestions and attept to contibute to the community. Where as you're both posting absolute useless, unimaginative and uncreative information.
get over it its not goin to happen if you where here at beta what didnt get on forums till now??? cuz you sould know this seens you where on at beta
I'm for this...you could also add Fleet Captain and Commodore as they were both in TOS.
Yet you suggest adding Fleet Captain which is not a Rank and the Rank of Commadore which is equal to the Rank of Rear Admiral Lower Half, which also replaced the Rank of Commodore when TNG was introduced.
The problem with your system is I agree with the OP of THIS thread that rank should stop below admiral. You advocate adding 5 admiral ranks which I do not agree with.
I advocate adding the Canon Ranks from Star Trek Tv Series / Movies to a Star Trek game, and I have recently posted a lot of Content Suggestions to be associated with those ranks as requested by another community member.
Alecto, I did look. That response does not say anything that points to renaming ranks. It only states that they are working out progression schema, not rank titles. The ranks are not going to change. The logistic implications of such a proposal outweigh the importance of redesign.
I advocate adding the Canon Ranks from Star Trek Tv Series / Movies to a Star Trek game, and I have recently posted a lot of Content Suggestions to be associated with those ranks as requested by another community member.
I understand that, I am simply saying I just don't agree with you. I prefer the limiting of the ranks to Captain as the poster of this thread suggests.
I understand that, I am simply saying I just don't agree with you. I prefer the limiting of the ranks to Captain as the poster of this thread suggests.
Thats cool dude, you can stay Captain for as long as you like, thats the players prerogative, but what about everyone else who plays the game, who doesn't want to be "limited", shouldn't they eventually be given the opportunity to progress further in the game and get to unlock some realy cool game features?
Thats cool dude, you can stay Captain for as long as you like, thats the players prerogative, but what about everyone else who plays the game, who doesn't want to be "limited", shouldn't they eventually be given the opportunity to progress further in the game and get to unlock some realy cool game features?
You don't like it when someone doesn't agree with you, do you?
It has nothing to do with unlocking content. Some of us just prefer the idea of stopping the player ranks at captain (although I realize it will probably never happen of course). Just as you want more admiral ranks in the game, we want none. It's a matter of preference and we are both entitled to our opinions.
Thats cool dude, you can stay Captain for as long as you like, thats the players prerogative, but what about everyone else who plays the game, who doesn't want to be "limited", shouldn't they eventually be given the opportunity to progress further in the game and get to unlock some realy cool game features?
Actually, no, he can't. If we want access to new content, the content of higher ranks, (more missions) we are FORCED to rank up, eventually to Admiral. The only way you can stay at Captain is to not do anything but walk around Sol or DS9 and fly around Sector Space or visit Risa.
ill say this...
when have you ever seen an ensign in star trek lore command a starship vessel? (outside of a shuttle or runabout - if even then)
admirals have and will be able to command - nuff said.
besides - there are tons of threads advocating a change and many advocating no change...simple answer as many here have said - the devs have said it will not change. end of story.
ill say this...
when have you ever seen an ensign in star trek lore command a starship vessel? (outside of a shuttle or runabout - if even then)
admirals have and will be able to command - nuff said.
besides - there are tons of threads advocating a hchange and many advicating no change...simple answer as many here have said - the devs have said it will not change. end of story.
Actually, no, he can't. If we want access to new content, the content of higher ranks, (more missions) we are FORCED to rank up, eventually to Admiral. The only way you can stay at Captain is to not do anything but walk around Sol or DS9 and fly around Sector Space or visit Risa.
Sorry so you're saying he can, agreeing with the facts and you're contradicting your self by saying he can't because he has to get promoted to unlock content?
You do currently have to get promoted to Rear Admiral in game at present to gain access to new content anyway so theirs nothing wrong with what I'm doing, by simply suggesting ways in which Cryptic can improve upon their own design, it is logical that it is far more likely to succeed.
In the end, wht I post is nothing more than a suggestion, and yes of course I like many others would like their suggestions to appear in game but in the end it's all down to Cryptic to make the decisions. I figure the easier we make our suggestions for them to implememnt, the more likely we are to succeed and also, if only one of our many suggestions were to be implemented, it would make us happy right?
So why are community members complaining or posting negitive useless information in reply to perfectly good suggestions, that are nothing more than suggestions?
Wow you all have derailed this post. The only thing i was saying was to keep the rank at capt doesnt have **** to do with the levels. Just make a change to the system that anything at RA is Captain 15 or something like that.
Wow you all have derailed this post. The only thing i was saying was to keep the rank at capt doesnt have **** to do with the levels. Just make a change to the system that anything at RA is Captain 15 or something like that.
I was agreeing with you.
Alecto decided to take your thread to promote his "Lets have 5 Admiral rank" idea.
Dude, I have seen your thread. I shake my head every time I see you have updated it. nearly 200 posts and about 1/2 of them are yours. Cryptic has concisely stated they are not going to change the ranks.
Amen to that. It's almost as bad as the gold spam in my email.
Just trying to figure out why...this is all arbitrary, they could have level 40 Ensigns and it would still be level 40. I am not saying they are right, but changing the ranks doesn't solve real issues.
ill say this...
when have you ever seen an ensign in star trek lore command a starship vessel? (outside of a shuttle or runabout - if even then)
admirals have and will be able to command - nuff said.
besides - there are tons of threads advocating a change and many advocating no change...simple answer as many here have said - the devs have said it will not change. end of story.
I would prefer they work on the early levels instead of admiral rank. They should have had a Starfleet Academy on earth before you go to Sol station. The noob zone should have been to gradualte the Academy and become a Lt.
As far as rank, it won't change. But I would have liked to see Captain as the highest rank. But it is all the same leveling anyway. It is just a label.
I would prefer they work on the early levels instead of admiral rank. They should have had a Starfleet Academy on earth before you go to Sol station. The noob zone should have been to gradualte the Academy and become a Lt.
As far as rank, it won't change. But I would have liked to see Captain as the highest rank. But it is all the same leveling anyway. It is just a label.
I agree with you about Captain being the highest rank. It just seems weird to me to have a bunch of admirals running around doing missions. In fact didn't Kirk once say "Never let them promote you past Captain"?
I agree with you about Captain being the highest rank. It just seems weird to me to have a bunch of admirals running around doing missions. In fact didn't Kirk once say "Never let them promote you past Captain"?
They could have gone with a Captain Mark of Excellence. So we would be Captain M5. Leave the Admiral for a future expansion.
It's not going to change now, but I wanted to be a Captain of my own ship. Not a admiral that is just working for Starfleet. Why are Admirals flying around in ships and not Captains anyway? :cool:
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I'm for this...you could also add Fleet Captain and Commodore as they were both in TOS.
I would agree here but I would think there is more admirals than those ranks. I still think stop at captain.
Indeed. The ranks are not going to change as per dev statement. I would guess the reason is fundamental alteration of the entire leveling schema. To change ranks would essentially mean a near complete reformatting of almost every bit of mission text, and system code. If one thing is missed the entire system would cease to function.
It was stated by Riker in All Good Things... (and I believe before this) that one of the perks of being an Admiral is that you get to choose your own ship. And in times of war (like we are in now) all ships are needed.
Greetings all
I would just like to inform everyone viewing this thread that I have just posted a huge update to my thread regarding the Rank Structure, the new post is on page #17 within my thread and contains a wide selection of Content Suggestions to be associated with the Ranks, please remember they are only suggestions.
The thread is the 4th in my signature and is titled, Cryptic, can we have 11 Ranks instead of 6 please?
There is a lot to read, if you have not previously viewed the thread.
Dude, I have seen your thread. I shake my head every time I see you have updated it. nearly 200 posts and about 1/2 of them are yours. Cryptic has concisely stated they are not going to change the ranks.
ya he just tryed to so on his that they havent told me one thing he wont here at beta
The problem with your system is I agree with the OP of THIS thread that rank should stop below admiral. You advocate adding 5 admiral ranks which I do not agree with.
Please read post #151 which is the first post on page 16 within my thread, it contains a reply from dstahl which contradicts everything you're saying. Also I'll have you know I was here before beta, during beta, I'm still here now and I'll be here for the rest of my life as a lifer, thank you very much.
What do you have against everything in my thread anyway? Have you two even read it?
You both seem to have very closed opinions on the subject and you also both seem to have very little respect for people who like to help others, offer suggestions and attept to contibute to the community. Where as you're both posting absolute useless, unimaginative and uncreative information.
get over it its not goin to happen if you where here at beta what didnt get on forums till now??? cuz you sould know this seens you where on at beta
Yet you suggest adding Fleet Captain which is not a Rank and the Rank of Commadore which is equal to the Rank of Rear Admiral Lower Half, which also replaced the Rank of Commodore when TNG was introduced.
I advocate adding the Canon Ranks from Star Trek Tv Series / Movies to a Star Trek game, and I have recently posted a lot of Content Suggestions to be associated with those ranks as requested by another community member.
Just please, in the name of the Prophets, open the skills up so we can learn all of those.
I understand that, I am simply saying I just don't agree with you. I prefer the limiting of the ranks to Captain as the poster of this thread suggests.
Thats cool dude, you can stay Captain for as long as you like, thats the players prerogative, but what about everyone else who plays the game, who doesn't want to be "limited", shouldn't they eventually be given the opportunity to progress further in the game and get to unlock some realy cool game features?
You don't like it when someone doesn't agree with you, do you?
It has nothing to do with unlocking content. Some of us just prefer the idea of stopping the player ranks at captain (although I realize it will probably never happen of course). Just as you want more admiral ranks in the game, we want none. It's a matter of preference and we are both entitled to our opinions.
Actually, no, he can't. If we want access to new content, the content of higher ranks, (more missions) we are FORCED to rank up, eventually to Admiral. The only way you can stay at Captain is to not do anything but walk around Sol or DS9 and fly around Sector Space or visit Risa.
when have you ever seen an ensign in star trek lore command a starship vessel? (outside of a shuttle or runabout - if even then)
admirals have and will be able to command - nuff said.
besides - there are tons of threads advocating a change and many advocating no change...simple answer as many here have said - the devs have said it will not change. end of story.
ty amen amen!!! lol
Sorry so you're saying he can, agreeing with the facts and you're contradicting your self by saying he can't because he has to get promoted to unlock content?
You do currently have to get promoted to Rear Admiral in game at present to gain access to new content anyway so theirs nothing wrong with what I'm doing, by simply suggesting ways in which Cryptic can improve upon their own design, it is logical that it is far more likely to succeed.
In the end, wht I post is nothing more than a suggestion, and yes of course I like many others would like their suggestions to appear in game but in the end it's all down to Cryptic to make the decisions. I figure the easier we make our suggestions for them to implememnt, the more likely we are to succeed and also, if only one of our many suggestions were to be implemented, it would make us happy right?
So why are community members complaining or posting negitive useless information in reply to perfectly good suggestions, that are nothing more than suggestions?
I was agreeing with you.
Alecto decided to take your thread to promote his "Lets have 5 Admiral rank" idea.
I personally like your idea better.
Amen to that. It's almost as bad as the gold spam in my email.
I would prefer they work on the early levels instead of admiral rank. They should have had a Starfleet Academy on earth before you go to Sol station. The noob zone should have been to gradualte the Academy and become a Lt.
As far as rank, it won't change. But I would have liked to see Captain as the highest rank. But it is all the same leveling anyway. It is just a label.
I agree with you about Captain being the highest rank. It just seems weird to me to have a bunch of admirals running around doing missions. In fact didn't Kirk once say "Never let them promote you past Captain"?
They could have gone with a Captain Mark of Excellence. So we would be Captain M5. Leave the Admiral for a future expansion.
It's not going to change now, but I wanted to be a Captain of my own ship. Not a admiral that is just working for Starfleet. Why are Admirals flying around in ships and not Captains anyway? :cool: