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Undocumented feature or Bug with today's patch?
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It would also have the fantastic effect of scaring people silly. Like seeing a big shadow under the water and knowing it is a shark.
I have better things to do with my 1/2 of time than grief the Feds.
The issue I have with this is that if Cryptic caved in on this from all the Fed QQ we will be nerfed into the ground until we never win, which is exactly what they want. This is a dangerous precedent.
But on the bright side, it's not something that the Federation players can use to zero on you. In fact, it can be fun, because you can come in below or above them and make like your flying through their fed ball.
And that just about sums it up.
Korthos
Jeez, are you serious? The devs did this? Why don't they just ****i*g delete this faction altogether if they want to begin removing a defining characteristic of KDF warships?
It is no longer a God-Damn cloak if people know where you're at!
Unfortunately you are telling the horrible truth. The devs Stealth Nerfed Cloaks. The sole KDF player our full 5 man group faced again shows up as a nice, convenient red arrow on the map despite him in full cloak as a BoP.
I sent him a tell about the new situation regarding cloaks. Sent him a tell since i can hover my cursor over his red arrow on the mini-map and tell what his name is.
So... Feds no longer have to worry about where the Klingons are. They simply can chase them down with Science captains, bust them out of cloak, and that's that. They no longer have to worry where the KDF is, not even have to worry about what direction the KDF will attack from.
F*ck you, Devs. F*ck you very much.
They need to fix this asap.
haha, ya...now if we can just get the feds to quit needing diaper changes and nap times so they can quit the tantrums huh?:eek:
troll!
Like many others in this game I play both feds and klinks as i will play other races as and when they come out, I logged onto my science fed last night and contrary to the whiners here the klinks appearing cloaked on the radar is actually a nice touch and is not instant win for the feds in anyway for one reason
2D map vs 3D play area.
I still (as my science fed) have to use alot of player skill to find those klinks and a lot of luck is involved as well.
When I went on my klink later that night I was not feeling the love from feds "seeing" me on the 2D map and thus honing in on my hiding place on teh 3D play zone and was still able to wrack up nice damage scores from ambush.
I say leave the bug in, let the klinks cry all they want, once the strong klinks learn that this is not a massive stealth nerf they will continue to win the gankfests of cracked planet without much effort as they mostly do now and the weak klinks will just have to man up.
Its about damn time that players of STO stopped their WoW epeen measuring and crying "QQ" everytime someone doesn't agree with them. STO is new, and like ALL mmo before it the first 6-12months will be full of bugs, crashes, changes large and small in the game as it struggles to find its equilibrium.
But at the end of the day muppets and trolls and WoWQQleetepix aside were all one community and what benefits the game as a whole should be more important than emo rage about stealth cloak nerfs or cannon overpoweredness etc etc.
Being a klink focused player doesn't automatically make you a elite pvper who has any right to look down on the feds who you assume are just noob pvers.
Anymore than being a fed player makes it ok to assume that every fed ship is a hero ship from the series and should be able to do all the funky things those ships do to win the day.
Kinda gave up reading half way.. your a muppet and a STO/Fed fanboi who seems to like to troll...
but ok. lets say it was not a bug (I know it is) does that mean we could then see Fed shield strengh reduced on all ships?.. and also a reduction in the number of weapons a escort can load out? i'm guessing not.. as lets face it, Klingons are only in the game to be Fed content for when they are 45..
On a different note... take it all Feds were PvEing last night? very long queues for Klinks and normaly 5 v 1 or 2 when we did get in.. gonna laugh when FvF comes... bye bye Klinks
And btw how would this make the game balanced since fed sci players just have to scan for our cloak to lock on to uys and shoot? Now they get to know EXACTLY where we are to activate that ability,, NO this is def. a bug not a "reasonable balance".
K'rapok Cptn KDF
I just make sure Im above them or below them I see them all the time trying to bring me out LOL.
So please by all means Feds break up that ball of QQ and come look for us. Just makes it easier to pick you off.
Well thanks *******s this is pretty much a 99% chance my fleet will break up and just go back to Feds(and not PvP)
Like others have said, there's a Z-axis on the battleground that the map doesn't have. Don't sit at 5km from a sci ship on the same level on the Z-axis and he won't find you any more than he did before. They'll just know Klingons are lining up their shot instead of wondering if there's anyone in the game or the Klingons all left.
If that's all it takes to make you lose and quit, I'm not really sorry.
I understand it's probably a bug, but I wouldn't mind seeing it become a feature. Maybe have ships who can battlecloak invisible on the map while others (including MES if it ever gets fixed) would show on the radar, but not visually.
Lets get facts straight.
1. Klingon BOP has battlecloak. They pay for that ability by having less hull and less shields.
2. Cryptic put the federation at having greater shields and hull to balance out the cloaking.
So if Cryptic would make the cloak visible then cloak would be useless and we would require
to lower the hulls and shields of federation players. How many of the federation players would
agree to drop their hull/shields to the same level as the BOP?
I am almost 100% sure no-one would agree on that.
And if they did, what would separate the Federation Players from Klingon Players more than
graphical setup?
There needs to be skills special for Klingons as well as Federation to destinguish the faction.
Some say cloak is unbalanced, well I met federation groups that did not have any problems winning
15-0 in cracked planetoid even with cloaks and all. It is all a matter of learning to play together as a team.
If Klingons do not work together as a team it matters not if they have cloak or not they will get hammered. Same goes with the federation players. If you do not work together as a team, you will loose.
So for all those whom want cloak nerfed and klingons nerfed etc...learn to play as a team rather than want everything handed to you on a silver platter.
Cloak is cloak. Z axis or not. This is easy to combat as all they need to do is fly above and below each other.
Tell me how do I sneak up on someone when they see the red dot sitting over them? You can't surprise is what we get for the reduction in hulls and shields.
If they allow this then they need to just give us the same ships. The feds will still get pawned and then what?
Hope they fix the bug but who knows.
Just saying...
And since we're getting facts straight, let's.
BoP has a battlecloak. I said leave the battlecloak invisible on the radar but show cruisers and possibly raptors (raptor sucks and needs something special, I know, but that's another discussion).
Is that straight enough?
And the difference in shield and hull is rather marginal. A BoP setup with good defense and backed up by his team will be just as sturdy as a fed escort in the same situation just as my battlecruiser setup for healing and tanking will last as long as an equally geared. There are other tradeoffs for the cloak which come more in the form of the lack of ships in T5, where feds can pick better layouts of BOs and consoles on their ships.
Anyways, no point in arguing with people who can only see one side. But with the cloak as it currently is, if they add FvF queues, there will be very little pvp left for Klingons. I'd rather try to avoid that as I like the 2 factions and would hate to be forced into fighting only my own faction, on either side. If showing some of the ships on the radar is the way to fix it, I'm all for it. Another option would to give cloak only to BoPs, but I'm not sure that would fly now would it?