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Minimum reqs state you need a Radeon HD 3850 along the lines of ATi cards. I'm curious if an AGP Radeon HD 4670 1GB would be sufficient for this game. I haven't used an AGP card in years, and have a client who meets the specs otherwise, but doesn't want to spend the cheddar to switch to PCI-E. Most video card ratings show the 4670 a step beyond the 3850, but not 100% that it would hold true with an AGP card.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    PCI-E 1.0 has about twice the bandwidth of AGP 8X. That said, it seems that AGP cards are about 15-20% slower as their PCI-E counterparts.

    The game would probably run but not very well.

    If he's using AGP I would also worry about his CPU.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    one thought that comes to mind, people are running STO on netbooks and laptops with graphics cards that are well bellow minumim spec, though its not recommended or supported. the card you have is supported by STO, the specs dont specify agp or pci-e

    an AGP graphics card shouldnt have any problems running STO although you may need to run on lower settings than on the equivilant PCI-e card

    depending how good a friend your friend is you could always copy your install to their machine and you (not them) test with your account how well you can get STO to work
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Minimum reqs state you need a Radeon HD 3850 along the lines of ATi cards. I'm curious if an AGP Radeon HD 4670 1GB would be sufficient for this game.
    Minimum: NVIDIA GeForce 7950 / ATI Radeon X1800 / Intel HD Graphics
    Features: Minimum attributes
    Required
    Video RAM 256 MB
    Hardware T&L Yes
    Pixel Shader version 3.0
    Vertex Shader version 3.0

    ATI Radeon™ HD 4670 Series GPU Specifications
    # Pixel Shader 4.1
    # Vertex Shader 4.1

    Performance Tests HD 3850 vs 4670 AGP
    http://forums.amd.com/game/messageview.cfm?catid=260&threadid=115533
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Thanks for the responses guys. I should had chosen my words more wisely. Yes the "minimum" requirements say a x1800 from ATi will work. How ever when ever I'm helping a client upgrade, I suggest at minimum they go with the recommended hardware. That way these costly upgrades will hold a while. Should Cryptic start adding to the game, as I'm sure they will, I imagine we will be lucky if a Radeon x1800 supports this game another 8-12 months. Sure it would be nice to have the customer come back to me then for another upgrade, but I personally find that unethical.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Not sure why anyone would recommend upgrading an AGP based system at all vs replacing it. It's got to be at least 5-6 years old and probably older. Why upgrade something that is on the tail end of it's life? Probably can't run a fast processor and limited in memory options, probably no on board SATA. Retire that puppy.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Minimum reqs state you need a Radeon HD 3850 along the lines of ATi cards. I'm curious if an AGP Radeon HD 4670 1GB would be sufficient for this game. I haven't used an AGP card in years, and have a client who meets the specs otherwise, but doesn't want to spend the cheddar to switch to PCI-E. Most video card ratings show the 4670 a step beyond the 3850, but not 100% that it would hold true with an AGP card.

    Hi,

    I'm playing the game with that exact graphics card, as well as the following:

    2.7Ghz Core 2 Duo
    2Gb RAM

    and it runs fine 99% of the time at 1440x900 with every setting maxed out.

    Hope this helps you.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    CapnScragg wrote: »
    Not sure why anyone would recommend upgrading an AGP based system at all vs replacing it. It's got to be at least 5-6 years old and probably older. Why upgrade something that is on the tail end of it's life? Probably can't run a fast processor and limited in memory options, probably no on board SATA. Retire that puppy.

    Well, the board is one of the last to come with AGP. But its a dual core AMD 64 CPU, 3GB of DDR, and a 250GB SATA HDD. The guy has $130 to spend, and hopes the computer will hold until Xmas this year. Believe me I tried getting him to upgrade his whole system but he's very frugal. The only reason he bought this tower, was he ran his K6-2 500mhz system into the ground after six years. 10 hours of Quake II a night for five years will do that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Well, the board is one of the last to come with AGP. But its a dual core AMD 64 CPU, 3GB of DDR, and a 250GB SATA HDD. The guy has $130 to spend, and hopes the computer will hold until Xmas this year. Believe me I tried getting him to upgrade his whole system but he's very frugal. The only reason he bought this tower, was he ran his K6-2 500mhz system into the ground after six years. 10 hours of Quake II a night for five years will do that.

    He certainly gets some serious mileage out of his stuff! If he just wants it to last a year I could see it. You can still find a few good agp cards out there new and if you look on ebay there are many. On the nvidia side of the house a 7950 would work. All kinds of options on the ati side in his price range.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I'm thinking of picking up a used AGP card for a spare Win XP P4 3.ghz system so I'm glad to see threads like this one. I have a XT850 in there right now.
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