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Why can't I put skill points in mt Lt. Cmndr. Skills?

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited March 2010 in The Academy
:mad:I just got, earlier this morning, one of my characters to Lt. Cmndr.! I did all the things I needed to do to get promoted,(Saw AND did all that pertained to getting promoted), but, when I went to try to put Skill Points into one of my character's Lt. Cmndr. Skills, NONE of my character's Lt. Cmndr. Skills were able to have any skills added to them(no arrows or numbers underneath any of them)! Why is that? Do I HAVE to max out all of my Lt. Skills, before I can ever put Skill Points into my character's Lt. Cmndr. Skills! Help! Please!
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    You do have enough skill points to spend on the Lt. Cmndr skills right? Each tier skills cost more per level than the previous ones.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Did you complete the mission to get promoted?

    Also you need more skill points to upgrade a LT.Comander skill than a LT skill which may be the problem.

    The same thing happened to me all you need to do is get a enough skill points and it should let you level them.


    Click on the skill to see how many points you need.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Sometimes lag will prevent you from applying the skill. I've noticed that other times it won't show up as the skill being taken. I close the window go back in and it shows.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    :mad:I know that! It's just that there are no numbers or up or down arrows under the Lt. Cmndr. Skills which makes me think that I've maybe not done something I should've done! And, yes, I did the mission to get promoted!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    :mad:I did everything I had to do, including doing the mission to get promoted, so there should, at least, be up and down arrows, and level numbers, underneath my character's Lt. Cmndr. Skills, even if I can't add Skill Points to them, right?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    :mad:I know that! It's just that there are no numbers or up or down arrows under the Lt. Cmndr. Skills which makes me think that I've maybe not done something I should've done! And, yes, I did the mission to get promoted!

    The first response already answered your question. Did you just pretend it wasn't there?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    :mad: Proletariat12, shouldn't there be, on the Skill Points Page, under my character's Lt. Cmndr. Skills, now that she is a Lt. Cmndr., both up and down arrows, and Skill Level Numbers! There aren't, and that has me mad!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    :mad: Proletariat12, shouldn't there be, on the Skill Points Page, under my character's Lt. Cmndr. Skills, now that she is a Lt. Cmndr., both up and down arrows, and Skill Level Numbers! There aren't, and that has me mad!

    Arrows seem to have ruined your day.

    How about you play the game some more and get some extra skill points so that the arrows Apear
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    :mad:I just got, earlier this morning, one of my characters to Lt. Cmndr.! I did all the things I needed to do to get promoted,(Saw AND did all that pertained to getting promoted), but, when I went to try to put Skill Points into one of my character's Lt. Cmndr. Skills, NONE of my character's Lt. Cmndr. Skills were able to have any skills added to them(no arrows or numbers underneath any of them)! Why is that? Do I HAVE to max out all of my Lt. Skills, before I can ever put Skill Points into my character's Lt. Cmndr. Skills! Help! Please!

    You haven't reached Lt Commnander until you reach level 11, spent 6700 skills points. At that point Amidral Quinn will contact your and give you the Promotion Lt Commander mission. After that you have to travel to Sol and talk to Adm. Quinn. Once you turn in the mission you will be Lt Commander, and gotten a plaque for your new ship. At that point, your lt Commander skills will be unlocked and you can spent points on them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    :rolleyes:fuzun, I already DID all that I had to do to get my character promoted to Lt. Cmndr.! I even turned in the Promotion Mission!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The only thing I can think of is if you JUST got promoted, that means you shouldn't have any points leftover to even try to upgrade any skills. You have to spend all of your skill points to get advanced. When you go do more missions and get more points, then you should be able to upgrade skills.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The only thing I can think of is if you JUST got promoted, that means you shouldn't have any points leftover to even try to upgrade any skills. You have to spend all of your skill points to get advanced. When you go do more missions and get more points, then you should be able to upgrade skills.

    this would be my guess also. check your character sheet and see how many total skill points you have. if it's under 6900, that's your problem. the arrows and numbers won't open up if you don't have enough skill points available to increase at least 1 skill level
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    :)Thanks, Apocalypse! I'll try that the next time I play that character! See, I'd thought I'd spent all the needed Skill Points, because my character got promoted to Lt. Cmndr.! I even went back to Earth Spacedock, talked to Admiral Quinn, did the Promotion Mission, and even got my new ship, so I thought everything was okay!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I'm pretty sure it's the "Not enough points to raise any skills" issue. My Commander has 58 unspent skill points. None of my skill boxes have increment arrows.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    :)Thanks, Apocalypse! I'll try that the next time I play that character! See, I'd thought I'd spent all the needed Skill Points, because my character got promoted to Lt. Cmndr.! I even went back to Earth Spacedock, talked to Admiral Quinn, did the Promotion Mission, and even got my new ship, so I thought everything was okay!

    You need 200 skill points to upgrade a Lt Cmdr skill.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Can wait to see this guy in pvp...........
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Actually, the game is racist against people who use far too many exclamation marks per post on the forums. Adjust your punctuation, and the game will allow you to spend your points (assuming that you have enough).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    That is strange. You should at least get the numbers and arrows appear even if not functional because you don't have enough points.

    I just checked my own skills and the Rear Admiral skills are the same thing because I am only Captain. However all my Captain skills are highlighted but will not work as I do not have enough points.

    So, on your character page it clearly shows you at Lieutenant Commander x right or on the top left of the screen ?

    Perhaps a screenshot showing what you are explaining may help but from what I am understanding from your post is that you might want to post this up as a bug but just in case I am misunderstanding the above mentioned screenshot will clear things up I am sure. Type /screenshot and you should see a ui option. Select that and give it a name. Do that for the Character page and the Skill page showing the problem and hopefully it can be cleared up.

    Edit : Just read Apocalypse's post and I agree. That can be the only cause of that effect. I don't recall seeing it myself though but perhaps I had a few points carried over. If their suggestion doesn't work try the screenshot suggestion to confirm its not a freaky bug :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Gym_Quirk wrote:
    I'm pretty sure it's the "Not enough points to raise any skills" issue. My Commander has 58 unspent skill points. None of my skill boxes have increment arrows.

    Actually that might be right. I have 144 points left on my gal but I do have arrows appearing. So perhaps any number less than 100 will result in this effect.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    kendo33 wrote:
    this would be my guess also. check your character sheet and see how many total skill points you have. if it's under 6900, that's your problem. the arrows and numbers won't open up if you don't have enough skill points available to increase at least 1 skill level

    The 6900 skill point limit stopped me from getting promoted. I was sitting at Lieutenant 10 for a while gathering the extra points to make 6900. It just wouldn't give me the promotion at all so I doubt that is the problem here.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    :confused:I have, on the character I mentioned that is now a Lt. Cmndr., 7024 Accumulated Skill Points, but, not all of that character's Lt. Skills are maxed out! Could the fact that the character I'm talking about here, because she doesn't have all of her Lt. Skills maxed out, even though she's now a Lt. Cmndr., be the cause of my problem? If it isn't I would like to know!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    :confused:Could it be that, even though the character I'm talking about has 7024 Total Accumulated Skill Points, and is now a Lt. Cmndr.1, because she hasn't maxed out her Lt. Skills, the arrows and numbers will not show up under that character's Lt. Cmndr. Skills? Can that be the problem?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    My answer is this:

    If your boff holds the rank of Lt. Cmdr and you are trying to increase the skill points of this boff in the Lt. Cmdr column (that's the second column), with over 7k skills points available and it isn't working, then it's likely the result of a bug.

    That being the case, file a bug report.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    :confused:Gaunt, do I need to max out the Lt. Level Skills of my character that is now a Lt. Cmndr.1, before I can get the arrows and numbers to even show up under my character's Lt. Cmndr. Skills?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    :mad: Proletariat12, shouldn't there be, on the Skill Points Page, under my character's Lt. Cmndr. Skills, now that she is a Lt. Cmndr., both up and down arrows, and Skill Level Numbers! There aren't, and that has me mad!

    YOU N E E D T H E P O I N TS or no arrows show yesh dont get made get a remedial reading class.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    TIny_Tank wrote:
    YOU N E E D T H E P O I N TS or no arrows show yesh dont get made get a remedial reading class.

    I'm usually not snarky but....

    If OP is the same one that is on the COH boards, whatever you say won't make any difference. The useless, non-helpful posts will continue, which is what the ignore feature is good for...:p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    :confused:Gaunt, do I need to max out the Lt. Level Skills of my character that is now a Lt. Cmndr.1, before I can get the arrows and numbers to even show up under my character's Lt. Cmndr. Skills?

    No I don't think so.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    7024 Total Accumulated Skill Points, and is now a Lt. Cmndr.1

    Which means you have 124 unspent skill points. Hence the inability to raise any of your Lt. Cmdr skills, as they each cost 200 points instead of the 100 points you were spending before on Lt. skills.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    :confused:Gaunt, do I need to max out the Lt. Level Skills of my character that is now a Lt. Cmndr.1, before I can get the arrows and numbers to even show up under my character's Lt. Cmndr. Skills?

    There are no skill nor skill level prerequisites for higher ranked skills. When you get promoted, all of the skills for that rank are unlocked. That means you don't have to put any ranks in Starship Operations before you can start ranking up Hazard Emitters.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    :)Everyone, I love the game, no doubt, but there are just so many things I don't understand about the game, which is why I'm so confused about most of it! Please don't look down on me, just because I'm unable to understand so much of the game!
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