test content
What is the Arc Client?
Install Arc

Why should we pay

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
Why should we pay a monthly fee for a game that is pre beta quality. Wait a few years and they will bring the game up to standards. By then they might just start answering the phone, god they might even answer the many tickets i have sent in.

They by law have a legal oblagation to maintan a playable game. They are charging a monthly fee and they are not doing anything to improve game play or content on a game they know to be flawed.

This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea
Post edited by Unknown User on

Comments

  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    timflow wrote:
    They by law have a legal oblagation to maintan a playable game

    oh...

    lawd.


    You kids these days. Back in my day trolling meant something.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    timflow wrote:
    Why should we pay a monthly fee for a game that is pre beta quality. Wait a few years and they will bring the game up to standards. By then they might just start answering the phone, god they might even answer the many tickets i have sent in.

    They by law have a legal oblagation to maintan a playable game. They are charging a monthly fee and they are not doing anything to improve game play or content on a game they know to be flawed.

    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea.

    Well they fulfilled any legal contractual obligation the moment you redeemed your key.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Everyone into the bomb shelter, quick!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    timflow wrote:
    Why should we pay a monthly fee for a game that is pre beta quality. Wait a few years and they will bring the game up to standards. By then they might just start answering the phone, god they might even answer the many tickets i have sent in.

    They by law have a legal oblagation to maintan a playable game. They are charging a monthly fee and they are not doing anything to improve game play or content on a game they know to be flawed.

    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea.


    they have done more updates from day 1 then a lot of MMO.

    What they could of done is make each ship/NPC harder to kill, increase time of quests by average of 20 minutes. - More creatures to kill, More ships, More things to scan.
    maybe make each level require double the Skill poiints needed instead of the current level.

    That would of added a lot of more time. Give them time!!! You are paying for more content and improvements and they ARE working on it.

    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Obiswift wrote: »
    they have done more updates from day 1 then a lot of MMO.

    What they could of done is make each ship/NPC harder to kill, increase time of quests by average of 20 minutes. - More creatures to kill, More ships, More things to scan.
    maybe make each level require double the Skill poiints needed instead of the current level.

    That would of added a lot of more time. Give them time!!! You are paying for more content and improvements and they ARE working on it.

    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea

    But he wants it now.

    I thought that part was perfectly clear. If he can't get it now, he doesn't want it at all. And that will teach everyone a valuable lesson.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    timflow wrote:
    They by law have a legal oblagation to maintan a playable game.
    Even if that's true, they fulfill this obligation, don't they? However bad you perceive the game, it is playable and no argument is going to change that in court.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    timflow wrote:
    Why should we pay a monthly fee for a game that is pre beta quality. Wait a few years and they will bring the game up to standards. By then they might just start answering the phone, god they might even answer the many tickets i have sent in.

    They by law have a legal oblagation to maintan a playable game. They are charging a monthly fee and they are not doing anything to improve game play or content on a game they know to be flawed.

    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea.

    dont pay *shrug*

    simple
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    timflow wrote:
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea

    How DARE you. My parents were killed by a ****. It was pronounced asterisk asterisk asterisk asterisk.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    timflow wrote:
    Why should we pay a monthly fee for a game that is pre beta quality. Wait a few years and they will bring the game up to standards. By then they might just start answering the phone, god they might even answer the many tickets i have sent in.

    They by law have a legal oblagation to maintan a playable game. They are charging a monthly fee and they are not doing anything to improve game play or content on a game they know to be flawed.

    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea.

    You could just not pay.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    timflow wrote:
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea


    Maybe you should give helo kitty online a try.

    good bye no one is gonna miss you.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Even if that's true, they fulfill this obligation, don't they? However bad you perceive the game, it is playable and no argument is going to change that in court.

    Here's how I imagine it going in court. If it was a criminal trial, that I think OP would want to go for, it would be thrown out on the spot.

    If it were a civil trial, in America, Cryptic would have to prove that they reasonably supported an MMO. This would require a legal definition of an MMO in the first place, which would be a bad thing, as any future MMO that didn't fit squarely within this definition could not be sold as an MMO, no matter how good it may be, as a definition is set into law, and not meeting said definition would constitute false advertising (REAL false advertising, not what trolls try to say Cryptic did with STO).

    However, nobody would be able to define it, as such a definition would either need to come from an expert witness (and who really would have the credentials to be an "expert" on what makes an MMO an MMO, that would actually WANT a legal definition?), or from the Supreme Court or Congress (and who really wants them involved in games anyway?). This would mean that either we get the Federal Government involved in games regulation, or the case is thrown out.

    If by some chance the case wasn't thrown out (either because it's too stupid to sue because you don't like your MMO or you have no legal backing for such a suit), it would then take a jury of average people - a lot of whom hate games for myriad reasons, a lot of whom hate MMO's for myriad reasons and a lot of whom would have a problem with someone paying for something they knew they didn't like beforehand and then suing over it - to decide if Cryptic did a reasonable job supporting the game. All they'd have to do is show the patch notes and prove that said patches were implemented. Case won by Cryptic, and OP has to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars to the court and to Cryptic for legal fees.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    timflow wrote:
    They by law have a legal oblagation to maintan a playable game. They are charging a monthly fee and they are not doing anything to improve game play or content on a game they know to be flawed.

    Another fine graduate of the "10 Wheaties box tops School of Law".
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    timflow wrote:
    Why should we pay a monthly fee for a game that is pre beta quality.

    If you dont think the game is worth your money, then dont pay for it. Its your choice, so dont complain to us about the choice YOU made. If your problem is lack of self control, then seek professional help.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I'm not one of those "don't let the door hit you on the way out" kinds of people, but I will say this: If you're not happy with the game, then you shouldn't pay to play it. It's really that simple.

    I'm personally happy with the game at the pace I play, so I'll stick around for a while, but the moment it is no longer fun for me, or I stop playing out of boredom, I'm going to cancel my subscription and move on to slowly leveling in another MMO. I'm not going to come here and ask "why should I keep paying to play a game I'm bored with?? lolwut?".

    Edit: TGN stole some of my thunder ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ytram wrote: »
    "don't let the door hit you on the way out"

    Amen :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Dear Dionaea,

    You have managed to successfully edit this thread to remove violating passages, but somehow missed the thread lock button in your editing frenzy.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    You know what bugs me abot these threads? The fact that This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea and then they This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea and further more, This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea so they can take it and This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea so hard and far that This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea with a rusty spoon!!!!!!!:mad::mad:
    I hope that got my point across!
    :D:p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    This thread is hilarious. Never seen so many edited posts by moderator in one topic. :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Dear OP, you don't have to pay for anything. You have free will and the right to spend your money however you wish to spend it. I hope you find a game you like eventually. STO will still be here if you want to give it another try in 6 months, or so.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    mickeyx wrote:
    This thread is hilarious. Never seen so many edited posts by moderator in one topic. :D

    Maybe Dionaea got a new, bionic post editor and is testing it out? :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    If it were a civil trial, in America, Cryptic would have to prove that they reasonably supported an MMO.

    Cryptic, as the defending party, would not need to prove anything if a silly lawsuit, such is threatened by every third person on the Internet for anything from a skip in a youtube video to a lost GMail message. The suit would not make it past summary judgement.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    We shouldn't pay a monthly fee for STO, it is not worth it. So I am not doing it. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Although I am not subscribing at the end of my bought time (a huge disappointment for me but hey), normally I would be defending a post like this but...

    Its pointless making threads like this that have zero quality because, to be honest, your making yourself look like a whiney kid

    Be constructive or dont post
Sign In or Register to comment.