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Rifle butt and palm strike - overpowered?

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited March 2010 in PvP Gameplay
Trying to melee with a bat'leth is less than a brilliant experience, due to the ranged weapon melee attacks. The main problem here is that your target will just spam the attack until the hold finally applies, then run away and shoot you. Odds are that this will happen before you get to your third combo strike.

The cause of the problem is that "50% chance to hold" can be repeated endlessly until it works. I think this is the only hold power of that type; all the others seem to have cooldowns. The obvious fix would be to put a cooldown on rifle butt and palm strike.

Opinions?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    It really should stay on the martial arts skill, however it should be removed from rifle butt, especially since that ability is spamable. My Sci officer use to spam that in ground combat till i saw how utterly cheesy that was.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    No offense, but I find it silly to say Rifle Butts are overpowered, when Bat'leth's Third Move is the same thing.

    What's overpowered is the duration of stuns and how easy some techniques can cause exposes.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Riflebutt cooldown to 5 seconds
    Palm strike to 2.5 (it roots you in place which is balanced)

    Put 15+ second cooldown on the shield ability that knocks opponents down on damage. Although I like these shields, they go off entirely too often its not even funny. Its like walking thru a minefield if you are at close range 5-10 ft of enemies and moving.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    They could do what every other MMO does that makes sense - give you 10 sec immunities after you've been held / rooted / etc. in that specific CC.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Roots in this game make no sense. I agree op as watching myself just die is tons of fun!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    the whole ground combat system is borked, rifle butt/palm strike is just a prime example for that, they should remove the expose and hold proc, give it an assured knockback for some ft... with a 4 second cooldown.

    holds should break on damage... change expose state to an assured crit ( +20% dmg if you want )
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Azurian wrote: »
    No offense, but I find it silly to say Rifle Butts are overpowered, when Bat'leth's Third Move is the same thing.

    Arguably this would be acceptable when you're using a real melee weapon, but I wouldn't mind seeing those toned down a bit too.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Big giant expose hits should be the job of the Tactical Captains just like debuffs / heals / cc are for the Sci and devices / shield regen are for the Eng.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    I was searching for a post about the expose chance on rifle butt
    this topic is old but the title suits my purpose so i am not to be bothered with creating a new topic

    plz remove the expose chance on the rife butt.

    ty
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited March 2010
    Miiru wrote:
    Trying to melee with a bat'leth is less than a brilliant experience, due to the ranged weapon melee attacks. The main problem here is that your target will just spam the attack until the hold finally applies, then run away and shoot you. Odds are that this will happen before you get to your third combo strike.

    The cause of the problem is that "50% chance to hold" can be repeated endlessly until it works. I think this is the only hold power of that type; all the others seem to have cooldowns. The obvious fix would be to put a cooldown on rifle butt and palm strike.

    Opinions?

    yeah when someone has a better chance of stunning me with a rifle butt then i can do damage with my batleth it is overpwoered. Rifle butt takes far less time to animate then the batleth shove and therefore wins 75% of the time.
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