Q sent the enterprise off towards a borg cube far earlier than the federation should have ever met the Borg.
Setting in motion Wolf 359, and giving the borg the sum total knowledge of the enterprise's computer core to them, to become more effective adversaries.
I'm not saying it's his fault... But if I don't say that, I can't finish my sentence.
Oh I'm well aware of HOW the Borg came to be infatuated with Earth. I'm just saying....they should have let the Borg come to Earth, beam down, then kite them all around till they were dead.
I mean really....if I can beam down to a planet full of Borg, pull every last one of them, and just kite kite kite....
How hard could it be? They're freaking slow moving zombies.
I bet they weren't even properly geared with blue Mk X phasers. They were using Mk II.. maybe Mk III, tops. Also, Worf specced too much for melee powers.
I bet they weren't even properly geared with blue Mk X phasers. They were using Mk II.. maybe Mk III, tops. Also, Worf specced too much for melee powers.
Also, weapons in this century shift frequency modulations automatically, thus defeating the major item in favor of the borg.
Q sent the enterprise off towards a borg cube far earlier than the federation should have ever met the Borg.
Setting in motion Wolf 359, and giving the borg the sum total knowledge of the enterprise's computer core to them, to become more effective adversaries.
I'm not saying it's his fault... But if I don't say that, I can't finish my sentence.
there are other epsiodes, in enterprise and i believe voyager as well, which indicate that the borg were coming anyway and already knew about the feds, and as such q was doing picard and the feds a favour by giving them a warning before they showed up.
there are other epsiodes, in enterprise and i believe voyager as well, which indicate that the borg were coming anyway and already knew about the feds, and as such q was doing picard and the feds a favour by giving them a warning before they showed up.
Incorrect..
Enterprise borg encounter is considered widely as non-canon.. it simply shouldn't have happened.. we first encountered them when Q flung the enterprise into the path of the cube (deep gamma quadrant I think).. wasn't untill then, after the drones scanned enterprise-D and learnt of sector 001 that they came coming.
Oh I'm well aware of HOW the Borg came to be infatuated with Earth. I'm just saying....they should have let the Borg come to Earth, beam down, then kite them all around till they were dead.
I mean really....if I can beam down to a planet full of Borg, pull every last one of them, and just kite kite kite....
How hard could it be? They're freaking slow moving zombies.
Actuly, im pretty sure two of the borg in the last ground mission i did had ranged weapons... Out of.... 60? And oh, yea, the ones that DONT can be kited around when im aim mode and spend 95% of their lives crawling towards turrets and killing them as one of your engineer's put them up
Also, weapons in this century shift frequency modulations automatically, thus defeating the major item in favor of the borg.
The borg would have adapted to the change in federation tech like they adapted to the changes in every other races tech over the previous thousands of years they have been running around. They are the masters of adaptation, there is no excuse.
This sissy - Borg - problem started much earlier, with ST:VOY to be exact.
Captain Janeway even managed to set up a temporary alliance with the Borg. A slap in the face of all of us who were watching the original run of "The best of both worlds" (double episode of ST:TNG) and were VERY excited about the fate of Locutus of Borg and the Federation and all that.
This sissy - Borg - problem started much earlier, with ST:VOY to be exact.
Captain Janeway even managed to set up a temporary alliance with the Borg. A slap in the face of all of us who were watching the original run of "The best of both worlds" (double episode of ST:TNG) and were VERY excited about the fate of Locutus of Borg and the Federation and all that.
Q sent the enterprise off towards a borg cube far earlier than the federation should have ever met the Borg.
Setting in motion Wolf 359, and giving the borg the sum total knowledge of the enterprise's computer core to them, to become more effective adversaries.
I'm not saying it's his fault... But if I don't say that, I can't finish my sentence.
Q sent the enterprise off towards a borg cube far earlier than the federation should have ever met the Borg.
Setting in motion Wolf 359, and giving the borg the sum total knowledge of the enterprise's computer core to them, to become more effective adversaries.
I'm not saying it's his fault... But if I don't say that, I can't finish my sentence.
No its Picards fault for opening his trap saying there wasent a problem that Starfleet couldent solve.
Q: "Oh really?" *PUNT!*
You gotta give it to the borg though, damn persistant bastages to go that far out of there way to punt starfleet like a year later. Just think of all those world they skipped.
This sissy - Borg - problem started much earlier, with ST:VOY to be exact.
Captain Janeway even managed to set up a temporary alliance with the Borg. A slap in the face of all of us who were watching the original run of "The best of both worlds" (double episode of ST:TNG) and were VERY excited about the fate of Locutus of Borg and the Federation and all that.
Enterprise borg encounter is considered widely as non-canon.. it simply shouldn't have happened.. we first encountered them when Q flung the enterprise into the path of the cube (deep gamma quadrant I think).. wasn't untill then, after the drones scanned enterprise-D and learnt of sector 001 that they came coming.
Much as I hate to defend Enterprise... It's canon. You can say it's 'widely not considered canon', but that doesn't change the fact that it is, indeed, canon.
There is also the matter of the TNG episode "The Neutral Zone" which hints at the existence of the Borg (entire frontier colonies disappearing) well before any other mention of them, if you need another canon reference.
The borg would have adapted to the change in federation tech like they adapted to the changes in every other races tech over the previous thousands of years they have been running around. They are the masters of adaptation, there is no excuse.
They never seemed to adapt to bullets though, made me wonder how they took over those 'primitive' planets
Oh I'm well aware of HOW the Borg came to be infatuated with Earth. I'm just saying....they should have let the Borg come to Earth, beam down, then kite them all around till they were dead.
I mean really....if I can beam down to a planet full of Borg, pull every last one of them, and just kite kite kite....
How hard could it be? They're freaking slow moving zombies.
you're what? about 14?
But back on topic, the Borg were pretty hard core until Voyager came along and nurfed them due to the inability of the writers to actually, you know, write.
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Setting in motion Wolf 359, and giving the borg the sum total knowledge of the enterprise's computer core to them, to become more effective adversaries.
I'm not saying it's his fault... But if I don't say that, I can't finish my sentence.
I mean really....if I can beam down to a planet full of Borg, pull every last one of them, and just kite kite kite....
How hard could it be? They're freaking slow moving zombies.
Also, weapons in this century shift frequency modulations automatically, thus defeating the major item in favor of the borg.
there are other epsiodes, in enterprise and i believe voyager as well, which indicate that the borg were coming anyway and already knew about the feds, and as such q was doing picard and the feds a favour by giving them a warning before they showed up.
Incorrect..
Enterprise borg encounter is considered widely as non-canon.. it simply shouldn't have happened.. we first encountered them when Q flung the enterprise into the path of the cube (deep gamma quadrant I think).. wasn't untill then, after the drones scanned enterprise-D and learnt of sector 001 that they came coming.
Congratulations, you just won the "ST":"O" - forums.
Actuly, im pretty sure two of the borg in the last ground mission i did had ranged weapons... Out of.... 60? And oh, yea, the ones that DONT can be kited around when im aim mode and spend 95% of their lives crawling towards turrets and killing them as one of your engineer's put them up
The borg would have adapted to the change in federation tech like they adapted to the changes in every other races tech over the previous thousands of years they have been running around. They are the masters of adaptation, there is no excuse.
Captain Janeway even managed to set up a temporary alliance with the Borg. A slap in the face of all of us who were watching the original run of "The best of both worlds" (double episode of ST:TNG) and were VERY excited about the fate of Locutus of Borg and the Federation and all that.
Well done in completely missing the point.
No its Picards fault for opening his trap saying there wasent a problem that Starfleet couldent solve.
Q: "Oh really?" *PUNT!*
You gotta give it to the borg though, damn persistant bastages to go that far out of there way to punt starfleet like a year later. Just think of all those world they skipped.
Slap in the face but...
Got 7 of 9 out of the deal.
Seems like a win to me :P
Much as I hate to defend Enterprise... It's canon. You can say it's 'widely not considered canon', but that doesn't change the fact that it is, indeed, canon.
There is also the matter of the TNG episode "The Neutral Zone" which hints at the existence of the Borg (entire frontier colonies disappearing) well before any other mention of them, if you need another canon reference.
They never seemed to adapt to bullets though, made me wonder how they took over those 'primitive' planets
you're what? about 14?
But back on topic, the Borg were pretty hard core until Voyager came along and nurfed them due to the inability of the writers to actually, you know, write.
Does this have basis in more than 1 episode?
Holograms do not count as bullets btw.