You know, as review after review comes out, it gets harder and harder to believe that every single reviewer is somehow a Blizzard lackey. I hope Cryptic takes these seriously and works twice as hard to change these reviews.
Meh, I don't trust Gamespots reviews. Anybody that will give positive reviews for money is not ok in my book. Note how much higher the user score is. Also, note the overall review score of 73% based on all reviews on the main page.
You know, as review after review comes out, it gets harder and harder to believe that every single reviewer is somehow a Blizzard lackey. I hope Cryptic takes these seriously and works twice as hard to change these reviews.
true but most of them seem to be around what a lot of expected. this one seems to be lower then normal.
Amazing differences between averaged out user score and the review scores from places like Gamespot etc.
Honestly nowadays if you like the sound of a game and its something which interests you then the only way you're going to be able to tell if it worth playing or not is to take the chance on it.
Reviews are and always will be opinions, and sometimes its been known for a review place to have someone who hates the subject matter to do the review (don't ask for proof, I have seen it a few times over the years).
What really matters at the end is whether or not you're having fun, sure its good to know that there is room for improvement, no death penalty, light on content, but that in my book is 'irrelevant' is the game is fun, and has the promise of future updates.
I've played plenty of games which got high scores, plenty of content and very good graphics, yet they missed the fun factor.
Yep here is one while the "paid critic" only rated the game a 5.something 432 other people rated the game at least a 7.2. I noticed no one said anything about that so i figured i would throw that out there
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true but most of them seem to be around what a lot of expected. this one seems to be lower then normal.
Yep, GameSpot drilled this one home. I will have to say, when you remove the "omg it's Star Trek!" aspect, the game really is lacking in many ways. It is light, just as they say. It has tons and tons of bugs too. So, I have to agree with them. When you're not a fanboi like most here, then the reality comes in and you see it for what it really is.
Looks like a fair review to me. With MMO after MMO that has released and failed due to a variety of reasons, but primarily a lack of content, Cryptic releases a game with repetitive leveling content, and zero end game content. They think that that is acceptable? That they will be the first MMO to NOT fail when there is a huge lack of content?
Yep, GameSpot drilled this one home. I will have to say, when you remove the "omg it's Star Trek!" aspect, the game really is lacking in many ways. It is light, just as they say. It has tons and tons of bugs too. So, I have to agree with them. When you're not a fanboi like most here, then the reality comes in and you see it for what it really is.
So you agree with the critic and we agree the 432 other people who give it a 7 out of 10 and we are fan boys.........whats that make you :cool:
These are the same people that have changed review scores due to the publisher of the game complaining... They also gave ME2 on PC a 9.0, meh.
The points I have seen in many of these reviews are true. Basically what it boils down to, is you believe the game is headed in the right direction and want to stick with it, or you don't. Pretty simple. I do have to say this though, I tried, Conan, Warhammer, AION, EVE, and many others I didn't like. I simply left them and moved onto something else. I did not sit in the forums and link reviews of those that agreed with me.
Yep, GameSpot drilled this one home. I will have to say, when you remove the "omg it's Star Trek!" aspect, the game really is lacking in many ways. It is light, just as they say. It has tons and tons of bugs too. So, I have to agree with them. When you're not a fanboi like most here, then the reality comes in and you see it for what it really is.
well I'm a fanboi. I love the game, part because it is star trek, and part because I want it to grow. Now I see it's problems, and I want to see them get fixed. ( I guess that makes me a haterboi ) personally I'm not to worried about this game, just because of the one server fact. the nice thing about one server is it can be scaled down if the population is low, that way we still see people around. that and Star trek is one of the strongest IP in Sci FI ( sorry star wars, but our nerds are bigger ) so I don't worry about reviews.
Sorry.... I guess it sucks more than what the average metascore says.... The reviews all state the same issues that plague STO. Crappy ground combat, lack of content, poor mission design.... and the list goes on.
Sorry.... I guess it sucks more than what the average metascore says.... The reviews all state the same issues that plague STO. Crappy ground combat, lack of content, poor mission design.... and the list goes on.
well the reviews are up and down. added to that reviews are nothing more the an Opinion with a microphone. it is no different then what I think of the game, and what you think of the game. none of us are right, and none of us are wrong.
These quotes pretty much sum up my feelings. I wish Cryptic would respond, but once again they have taken the road of silence. STO is going to be a ghost town soon if Cryptic doesn't start talking and fixing things ...
"It isn't bugs that make Star Trek Online feel unfinished, however. It's the inherent shallowness."
"Some of the flaws will improve in time; MMOGs are, by their very nature, evolving creatures. Other flaws--the poor ground combat and oddly disconnected nature of the universe--are threaded into the core design and less likely to see improvement."
"For now, Star Trek Online is a shell, lacking the substance and the style that the franchise so rightfully deserves. "
just imagine if this was just a space game with no IP....only reason the fanboys stick around is that its STAR TREK like whoa...STAR TREK!!! it stinks and has no depth by by the gods, its STAR TREK!!!
game was such a cash grab by Cryptic, i feel sorry for the lifetime subscribers out there =/
i feel utterly ripped off by purchasing the game, never going near a Cryptic game again. i was suckered in by the Star Trek IP and feel foolish now for biting.
only highlights of this game is the character creation (VERY good customization, like truly good job) and SOME of the missions in the DS9/Cardy areas. exploration, pvp, "crafting" are all a joke and you can complete almost every mission by facerolling your keyboard while asleep....so unchallenging.
maybe worst is the instancing, talk about cheaping out on hardware....go to DS9 and its dead, even the newb station in Sol is dead, with NPC's filling it up to make it look busy. wish it had actual servers.
then there is the broken up skill tree and all its lovely vagueness (and uselessness).
at least i only got dinged with the digital download and cancelled in time before first billing cycle.
Cryptic already made their profit with retail/digital sales, dont expect things to get much better.
then theyll send the former players emails asking them to come back with a promo or some other nonsense "Hey, our servers rock now!!! rejoin us and we just might allow a respec within the next 6 months or so" ... only reasons the servers would rock is because theres not much load on them as much of the player base has gone.
Mr. Roddenberry would be ashamed and angered. this game is a very disrespectful homage to the Star Trek he envisioned.
This kind of pseudo zen-like equivocation doesn't really help anyone.
Just admit, STO has major problems. I've said so from the beginning. You can still like the game, play the game and hope for the best. That's what I'm doing.
I'm also honest enough to admit the reviews are pretty effing fair for the most part. I think Gamespy's was overly harsh, but Gamespot was just about right. Both fail to mention that Trekkies have a built-in immunity to lots of stupid stuff, but that doesn't take away the flaws of the game.
This is the best reviewer from Gamespot and he always gives fair score imo! Like it or not, Gamespot has a huge influence and it does not look good for the future of Cryptic.
This kind of pseudo zen-like equivocation doesn't really help anyone.
Just admit, STO has major problems. I've said so from the beginning. You can still like the game, play the game and hope for the best. That's what I'm doing.
I'm also honest enough to admit the reviews are pretty effing fair for the most part. I think Gamespy's was overly harsh, but Gamespot was just about right. Both fail to mention that Trekkies have a built-in immunity to lots of stupid stuff, but that doesn't take away the flaws of the game.
well it does still work, and I have admitted that it needs work . fact is pushing you're opinion is pointless. I'm just stating that.
well it does still work, and I have admitted that it needs work . fact is pushing you're opinion is pointless. I'm just stating that.
I think the frank reviews are a good thing. It forces Cryptic to get out of their developer bubble and face the music. Most people at Cryptic probably saw this coming anyway.
It's pretty clear the game would've been significantly better if it had been held 6 more months.
Yeah it's not going to help sales. In fact Gamestop just announced they are slashing prices on STO by $10 and $20 for the regular and collector's edition respectively. Guess they see the sales slump coming and wanted to be proactive.
So what. You don't want to lure people into the game by having BS reviews. The reviews reflect the game as it is now. In 3 months things will be better and hopefully those of us who hold on will be vindicated.
I'm calling B.S. on this. The review just repeats what the majority of people are saying on the forums. Way to research there Gamestop.
However, I'm also calling B.S. on the people who completely write off this review. Because we know they didn't just make this review up. And if it was a positive review, all the fanaliens would be touting it as proof that the game really is super awesome.
So yeah... everyone is wrong but me. I'm the only right one here.
I think the frank reviews are a good thing. It forces Cryptic to get out of their developer bubble and face the music. Most people at Cryptic probably saw this coming anyway.
It's pretty clear the game would've been significantly better if it had been held 6 more months.
Yeah it's not going to help sales. In fact Gamestop just announced they are slashing prices on STO by $10 and $20 for the regular and collector's edition respectively. Guess they see the sales slump coming and wanted to be proactive.
So what. You don't want to lure people into the game by having BS reviews. The reviews reflect the game as it is now. In 3 months things will be better and hopefully those of us who hold on will be vindicated.
The truth will set you free... it really will.
well just an FYI about game stop, the last few MMOs I've bought through them, they have done that. it's cleaning about the over stock,
and I agree with you, but we have to step back, and remember that these are just people like you and me, and are views are just as valid as theirs.
"The tense and not-always-respectful chatter of the main sector chat channels will have you seeking refuge in your own fleet's channel as soon as you join one. Or you may, at least, wish that the game had a specific help channel for players sorting out some of the more convoluted aspects of travel and leveling."
Yeah.... coulda told them the fanbois are *******s. That's all I see when I go in is fanbois giving other players grief. Which only proves they are just as bored as the haters. Only the haters waste all their stupid time stuck in the forum here.
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true but most of them seem to be around what a lot of expected. this one seems to be lower then normal.
The 3rd lowest in fact. Only gamespy and some place nobody has ever heard of named NSD gave lower reviews.
This quote from the review is DEAD on, death penalty pun intended.
Also...this..."For now, Star Trek Online is a shell, lacking the substance and the style that the franchise so rightfully deserves."
These quotes are VERY hard to argue with...and I WANT this game to succeed and flourish. I am also an AVID WoW hater...lol
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/rpg/mountandblade/review.html
Amazing differences between averaged out user score and the review scores from places like Gamespot etc.
Honestly nowadays if you like the sound of a game and its something which interests you then the only way you're going to be able to tell if it worth playing or not is to take the chance on it.
Reviews are and always will be opinions, and sometimes its been known for a review place to have someone who hates the subject matter to do the review (don't ask for proof, I have seen it a few times over the years).
What really matters at the end is whether or not you're having fun, sure its good to know that there is room for improvement, no death penalty, light on content, but that in my book is 'irrelevant' is the game is fun, and has the promise of future updates.
I've played plenty of games which got high scores, plenty of content and very good graphics, yet they missed the fun factor.
that doesn't seem to bad, all of the others are around what we expected.
Yep here is one while the "paid critic" only rated the game a 5.something 432 other people rated the game at least a 7.2. I noticed no one said anything about that so i figured i would throw that out there
:cool:
Yeah, the average of 73 sounds about right. I can see that going up over 80 once some of the content the devs are working on is implemented.
Yep, GameSpot drilled this one home. I will have to say, when you remove the "omg it's Star Trek!" aspect, the game really is lacking in many ways. It is light, just as they say. It has tons and tons of bugs too. So, I have to agree with them. When you're not a fanboi like most here, then the reality comes in and you see it for what it really is.
So you agree with the critic and we agree the 432 other people who give it a 7 out of 10 and we are fan boys.........whats that make you :cool:
The points I have seen in many of these reviews are true. Basically what it boils down to, is you believe the game is headed in the right direction and want to stick with it, or you don't. Pretty simple. I do have to say this though, I tried, Conan, Warhammer, AION, EVE, and many others I didn't like. I simply left them and moved onto something else. I did not sit in the forums and link reviews of those that agreed with me.
well I'm a fanboi. I love the game, part because it is star trek, and part because I want it to grow. Now I see it's problems, and I want to see them get fixed. ( I guess that makes me a haterboi ) personally I'm not to worried about this game, just because of the one server fact. the nice thing about one server is it can be scaled down if the population is low, that way we still see people around. that and Star trek is one of the strongest IP in Sci FI ( sorry star wars, but our nerds are bigger ) so I don't worry about reviews.
Whoops...
Ever since that Kane and Lynch debacle, I have decided to take their word with a grain of salt.
umm 6.5 vs 5.5 is my math off or something.
Sorry.... I guess it sucks more than what the average metascore says.... The reviews all state the same issues that plague STO. Crappy ground combat, lack of content, poor mission design.... and the list goes on.
well the reviews are up and down. added to that reviews are nothing more the an Opinion with a microphone. it is no different then what I think of the game, and what you think of the game. none of us are right, and none of us are wrong.
"It isn't bugs that make Star Trek Online feel unfinished, however. It's the inherent shallowness."
"Some of the flaws will improve in time; MMOGs are, by their very nature, evolving creatures. Other flaws--the poor ground combat and oddly disconnected nature of the universe--are threaded into the core design and less likely to see improvement."
"For now, Star Trek Online is a shell, lacking the substance and the style that the franchise so rightfully deserves. "
just imagine if this was just a space game with no IP....only reason the fanboys stick around is that its STAR TREK like whoa...STAR TREK!!! it stinks and has no depth by by the gods, its STAR TREK!!!
game was such a cash grab by Cryptic, i feel sorry for the lifetime subscribers out there =/
i feel utterly ripped off by purchasing the game, never going near a Cryptic game again. i was suckered in by the Star Trek IP and feel foolish now for biting.
only highlights of this game is the character creation (VERY good customization, like truly good job) and SOME of the missions in the DS9/Cardy areas. exploration, pvp, "crafting" are all a joke and you can complete almost every mission by facerolling your keyboard while asleep....so unchallenging.
maybe worst is the instancing, talk about cheaping out on hardware....go to DS9 and its dead, even the newb station in Sol is dead, with NPC's filling it up to make it look busy. wish it had actual servers.
then there is the broken up skill tree and all its lovely vagueness (and uselessness).
at least i only got dinged with the digital download and cancelled in time before first billing cycle.
Cryptic already made their profit with retail/digital sales, dont expect things to get much better.
then theyll send the former players emails asking them to come back with a promo or some other nonsense "Hey, our servers rock now!!! rejoin us and we just might allow a respec within the next 6 months or so" ... only reasons the servers would rock is because theres not much load on them as much of the player base has gone.
Mr. Roddenberry would be ashamed and angered. this game is a very disrespectful homage to the Star Trek he envisioned.
This kind of pseudo zen-like equivocation doesn't really help anyone.
Just admit, STO has major problems. I've said so from the beginning. You can still like the game, play the game and hope for the best. That's what I'm doing.
I'm also honest enough to admit the reviews are pretty effing fair for the most part. I think Gamespy's was overly harsh, but Gamespot was just about right. Both fail to mention that Trekkies have a built-in immunity to lots of stupid stuff, but that doesn't take away the flaws of the game.
official and user reviews average are spot on, nuff said.
well it does still work, and I have admitted that it needs work . fact is pushing you're opinion is pointless. I'm just stating that.
I think the frank reviews are a good thing. It forces Cryptic to get out of their developer bubble and face the music. Most people at Cryptic probably saw this coming anyway.
It's pretty clear the game would've been significantly better if it had been held 6 more months.
Yeah it's not going to help sales. In fact Gamestop just announced they are slashing prices on STO by $10 and $20 for the regular and collector's edition respectively. Guess they see the sales slump coming and wanted to be proactive.
So what. You don't want to lure people into the game by having BS reviews. The reviews reflect the game as it is now. In 3 months things will be better and hopefully those of us who hold on will be vindicated.
The truth will set you free... it really will.
However, I'm also calling B.S. on the people who completely write off this review. Because we know they didn't just make this review up. And if it was a positive review, all the fanaliens would be touting it as proof that the game really is super awesome.
So yeah... everyone is wrong but me. I'm the only right one here.
well just an FYI about game stop, the last few MMOs I've bought through them, they have done that. it's cleaning about the over stock,
and I agree with you, but we have to step back, and remember that these are just people like you and me, and are views are just as valid as theirs.
Yeah.... coulda told them the fanbois are *******s. That's all I see when I go in is fanbois giving other players grief. Which only proves they are just as bored as the haters. Only the haters waste all their stupid time stuck in the forum here.