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Thoughts on honor.

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The Klingon lore is about honor in many places, but what is the reason for there desire, if it is for self prestige, then it would still be selfish, if it is because honorable things have better larger effects in society then it would not be for selfish reasons.

Thinking on the ideas of Klingon Honor in the show, and comments around things like Samurai and such in posts, I read a comment where someone mentioned being heroic.


But much of that has to do with the reasons for being heroic, most people do not want to be heroic to be heroic, but because of what such things change and fix. It is not the actual effect or label, since it is not about the person, but the better world such actions create. I think there is a disconnect in Klingon lore around that point, and also in some Norse traditions and such. If Heroic action becomes the desire for honor, and not the desire for what honorable actions create, then like in most things, there are issues with the effects.

A person does not want to be seen as someone saving a damsel in distress, they don't want damsels in distress. And that leads to them saving damsel, but the damsel never being in that position would be better. Do you go out and slay the dragon for peer reward, or to stop the dragon from scorching the fields?

There is a huge difference in those two worlds because one of them requires unnecessary hardship for the effect of a single person, while the other one wants better situations for most people.

I find that an interesting look at Klingon honor, which could in many of the ways it is used in the show not be honor but pride, or desire for approval, and not a healthy trait.

I find that an interesting thought.
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