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So It now seems that UK & Euro players can look forward to having their W/E play time disrupted every week by the mid day and the "unexpected" 8pm GMT downtimes...

Cryptic are showing us here that the only player base they are really her for are the Americans, n TRIBBLE the rest!

Nice One Guys! Gold Star!
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ok, suggest a time that works for every time zone?

    Not easy is it.

    It's a no-win situation for Cryptic, they have to fix things, they are doing so with regular patches, yet people still whinge.

    If they weren't patching and fixing things people would whine harder. Some mmo's only get patches every few months and they usually break more than they fix.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    It's the first month, they've already said that the weekend downtime is not going to carry on once they get past the first month or so. It's just that doing it at this time at the moment affects the least number of people.

    I don't get what the big problem is. It's only 2 hours. It has to be done. The game has only been out for a week or so, you've got to give them time to get into a routine and get themselves sorted out and set up to maintain the game now its been released. Once the first month is out the way things will change.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Old.Tallen wrote: »
    Ok, suggest a time that works for every time zone?

    Not easy is it.

    It's a no-win situation for Cryptic, they have to fix things, they are doing so with regular patches, yet people still whinge.

    If they weren't patching and fixing things people would whine harder. Some mmo's only get patches every few months and they usually break more than they fix.

    Most MMO's i played Stagger their DT as to not affect the same group all the time...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    washproof wrote: »
    So It now seems that UK & Euro players can look forward to having their W/E play time disrupted every week by the mid day and the "unexpected" 8pm GMT downtimes...

    Cryptic are showing us here that the only player base they are really her for are the Americans, n TRIBBLE the rest!

    Nice One Guys! Gold Star!

    Lets see.... they can take the servers down to fix something that could be causing larger issues, like the crash yesterday. And people complain.

    Or they could not take them down and let the sever crash. And people complain.

    Just curious how you propose they fix a problem? Osmosis?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    lol 2 whole hours without a computer game, somebody needs to get s life. or a box of tissues
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Surely the most sensible time for downtime is in the week...it isn't rocket science to see that the weekend is the time when the most players will be online.

    I'm annoyed its europe primetime...but on a weekend...thats just stupid.

    In fact alot of other games have downtime at 11-1pm because its when the most americans are sleeping, but ive never heard of regular maintenance on a weekend before.

    I'd like to know the reason behind this...because ic ant think of one good reason for scheduled downtime during the weekend....can anyone else?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    washproof wrote: »
    Most MMO's i played Stagger thier DT as to not affect the same group all the time...

    Most MMO's that I have played keep their scheduled down time at the same time as always. Usually those times are based on when their staff is not in bed. IE during their day time. Which only makes sense for a game that is played world wide.

    There are of course those games that schedule down times based on certain areas. But those are also the games that have multiple servers. STO has one. So they can't exactly do that now can they?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    windra wrote: »
    Surely the most sensible time for downtime is in the week...it isn't rocket science to see that the weekend is the time when the most players will be online.

    I'm annoyed its europe primetime...but on a weekend...thats just stupid.

    In fact alot of other games have downtime at 11-1pm because its when the most americans are sleeping, but ive never heard of regular maintenance on a weekend before.

    I'd like to know the reason behind this...because ic ant think of one good reason for scheduled downtime during the weekend....can anyone else?

    11am-1pm GMT is not Europe primetime.
    That's lunch time.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    You can't call it a fact, since the death of STO has not happened yet.

    When it does die eventually and you have evidence that it is shutting down at this time that did was what killed the MMO then you can call it a fact.

    People leave hyperbole to politicians, it's what I elect them for.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    washproof wrote: »
    So It now seems that UK & Euro players can look forward to having their W/E play time disrupted every week by the mid day and the "unexpected" 8pm GMT downtimes...

    Cryptic are showing us here that the only player base they are really her for are the Americans, n TRIBBLE the rest!

    Nice One Guys! Gold Star!

    First the downtime is expected and is warned well ahead of time, Second the game needs to be patched there are alot of people complaining and game time is going to be sacked here and there in order to get the early patches out. As time goes on the will be less and less.

    Please tell me you do not honestly believe Cryptic only cares about its American customers?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Lets see.... they can take the servers down to fix something that could be causing larger issues, like the crash yesterday. And people complain.

    Or they could not take them down and let the sever crash. And people complain.

    Just curious how you propose they fix a problem? Osmosis?

    Or they could take it down when they have the patch ready and not always pick the same time every day but then that would upset the yanks.... Imagine them having to endure 2 hours in the middle of Sunday.

    As to a better time, well thats the tough one so why not stagger the times just to show some farness. After all the world does not yet revolve around the USA :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Phage wrote:
    lol 2 whole hours without a computer game, somebody needs to get s life. or a box of tissues

    Every other day, if it isn't unexpected then you get this. 2 hours a week isn't much, but it starts to count up. And it is a fact that their have been proposals already been posted to rotate the DT so it isn't always the same Timezone that gets shafted. And bringing it down at a later date their techpeople will be happy to, as they don't have to get up that earlly.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    windra wrote: »
    Surely the most sensible time for downtime is in the week...it isn't rocket science to see that the weekend is the time when the most players will be online.

    I'm annoyed its europe primetime...but on a weekend...thats just stupid.

    In fact alot of other games have downtime at 11-1pm because its when the most americans are sleeping, but ive never heard of regular maintenance on a weekend before.

    I'd like to know the reason behind this...because ic ant think of one good reason for scheduled downtime during the weekend....can anyone else?

    Yes. The game is new and needs fixes. Once we get past the first month or two then no doubt they will set a regular 1-2 day downtime that will be done in the middle of the week. Prolly a Tuesday or Thursday (or both) if other games are any indication.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Old.Tallen wrote: »
    Ok, suggest a time that works for every time zone?

    Not easy is it.

    It's a no-win situation for Cryptic, they have to fix things, they are doing so with regular patches, yet people still whinge.

    If they weren't patching and fixing things people would whine harder. Some mmo's only get patches every few months and they usually break more than they fix.

    No its impossible to find a time that works for all people. STO has a wide variety of players in several countries.

    Its the middle of the night where Cryptic is located and thats when you'll probably expect down times.

    But right now is the middle of the European weekend. At a time when they are up and about and wanting to play.

    Perhaps the time cant change but the day of the week might could use a move. Monday sounds better. Or Tuesday.

    But not the weekend.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ELITE-Kaos wrote: »
    Or they could take it down when they have the patch ready and not always pick the same time every day but then that would upset the yanks.... Imagine them having to endure 2 hours in the middle of Sunday.

    As to a better time, well thats the tough one so why not stagger the times just to show some farness. After all the world does not yet revolve around the USA :D

    2 Hours during the day on a weekend? Ok that is fine by me I say lets go for it so I don't have to listen to the paranoid brits, and I can talk to the ones who don't think everyone in a different timezone is out to get them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    washproof wrote: »
    Most MMO's i played Stagger their DT as to not affect the same group all the time...

    Name them all.

    I have played most major mmo's since UO and can't honestly remember any which did this except possibly EvE? But i really can't remember that minor point in any detail. Unless your going to spout of about games with regional servers like WoW, WAR etc, which don't count as this game only has 1 server.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Please tell me you do not honestly believe Cryptic only cares about its American customers?

    Yes because it is always the same time that they use. Minimum USA players maybe online but the rest of the world is awake. Just for once it would be nice to see the downtime changed so that it is early morning for the EU or Australia but then the nerd rage from a certain age group would make these forums a very ugly place indeed.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    washproof wrote: »
    So It now seems that UK & Euro players can look forward to having their W/E play time disrupted every week by the mid day and the "unexpected" 8pm GMT downtimes...

    Cryptic are showing us here that the only player base they are really her for are the Americans, n TRIBBLE the rest!

    Nice One Guys! Gold Star!

    you think you and the UK make up most of sto lmao get a life
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Im sorry but the reason MMO maint. usually caters to North Am s downtime is cuz guess what??? Theres more of us than of you. Your little country and the 6 next to it could probably fit in Ohio, <which is just one of our states, one of the smaller btw> SO

    that means that there are probably less people living in a group of countries the size of texas, than a group of people living in 50 states and however many provinces,, each one the size of 3 of your countries put together. Its called common sense people its not hard, hellz even wow has it maint. at what 5am? some conveneitn time for PST zoners. Please your island is not the center of the universe, they <cryptic> are merely doing what ****es the least amount of people off.

    PS This is not a flame or rage post and I have nothing against europeans, just when they whine.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    like the crash yesterday.

    you mean the regular, 8pm on the dot "unexpected" crash? you can set your watch by it tbh...

    well I work for a living, so i dont get alot of gaming time in the week, i play Sat, Sun & Tue if im lucky, it seems every time i come to get online its down.

    3am till 5am PST = 11am till 1pm GMT

    I Think it should be:

    1am till 3am PST = 9am till 11am GMT...

    after peak for America, before peak for europe...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ELITE-Kaos wrote: »
    Or they could take it down when they have the patch ready and not always pick the same time every day but then that would upset the yanks.... Imagine them having to endure 2 hours in the middle of Sunday.

    As to a better time, well thats the tough one so why not stagger the times just to show some farness. After all the world does not yet revolve around the USA :D

    No but maintenance schedules typically revolve around server loads. Meaning, the times with the lightest load are usually selected for maintenance times, because it is the less impact. Is there some impact? Sure, but it is smaller than other times.

    There is an easy solution. Get more people in your area to buy the game and log on. Then you become a heavier load time, and they'll pick a different window. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ELITE-Kaos wrote: »
    Yes because it is always the same time that they use. Minimum USA players maybe online but the rest of the world is awake. Just for once it would be nice to see the downtime changed so that it is early morning for the EU or Australia but then the nerd rage from a certain age group would make these forums a very ugly place indeed.

    Fair enough.

    (American here)


    And yes it is amazing that the server always crashes on the day maintenance is 'scheduled'.

    Hopefully things will sort out soon.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    No its impossible to find a time that works for all people. STO has a wide variety of players in several countries.

    Its the middle of the night where Cryptic is located and thats when you'll probably expect down times.

    But right now is the middle of the European weekend. At a time when they are up and about and wanting to play.

    Perhaps the time cant change but the day of the week might could use a move. Monday sounds better. Or Tuesday.

    But not the weekend.

    They have said this won't be the case all the time, they just seem to have a lot to fix atm. Can't see a problem with weekend patching in the short-term and i live in the EU ;)

    I'd like to see things fixed sooner rather than later, gives people less time to have to put up with new bugs.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Im sorry but the reason MMO maint. usually caters to North Am s downtime is cuz guess what??? Theres more of us than of you. Your little country and the 6 next to it could probably fit in Ohio, <which is just one of our states, one of the smaller btw> SO

    that means that there are probably less people living in a group of countries the size of texas, than a group of people living in 50 states and however many provinces each one the size of 3 of your countries put together. Its called common sense people its not hard, hellz even wow has it maint. at what 5am? some conveneitn time for PST zoners. Please your island is not the center of the universe, they <cryptic> are merely doing what ****es the least amount of people off.

    PS This is not a flame or rage post and I have nothing against europeans, just when they whine.

    there are more people living in Europe than the US, but i suspect more people play in the us
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    washproof wrote: »
    So It now seems that UK & Euro players can look forward to having their W/E play time disrupted every week by the mid day and the "unexpected" 8pm GMT downtimes...

    Cryptic are showing us here that the only player base they are really her for are the Americans, n TRIBBLE the rest!

    Nice One Guys! Gold Star!

    FACT:

    Seeing these threads started when ever the servers are down is TRIBBLE

    Use the 5,000,000 other threads started just like this one too save space:p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    washproof wrote: »
    you mean the regular, 8pm on the dot "unexpected" crash? you can set your watch by it tbh...

    well I work for a living, so i dont get alot of gaming time in the week, i play Sat, Sun & Tue if im lucky, it seems every time i come to get online its down.

    3am till 5am PST = 11am till 1pm GMT

    I Think it should be:

    1am till 3am PST = 9am till 11am GMT...

    after peak for America, before peak for europe...

    1am is a busy time for US players im afraid and probably one of the higher server load times, especially on a weekend.

    3am is usually quieter.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The time of the maintanence I dont think anyone can argue with, If 11am-1pm GMT is the time that least affects the majoraty of users then fair enough, Its the day, why choose sunday?
    If it was Wednesday @ 11am then im pretty sure a vast majoraty of UK/Euro players would be at work/school/the farm/the nut house, and wouldnt give a hoot about STO being offliine
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    No its impossible to find a time that works for all people. STO has a wide variety of players in several countries.

    Its the middle of the night where Cryptic is located and thats when you'll probably expect down times.

    But right now is the middle of the European weekend. At a time when they are up and about and wanting to play.

    Perhaps the time cant change but the day of the week might could use a move. Monday sounds better. Or Tuesday.

    But not the weekend.

    Why not the weekend? THe game is new. Would you rather play with all the bugs and issues that there currently are or would you rather them fix those bugs and issues asap? The sooner they get fixed the sooner that there will be less down time. Eventually they will get to the point where they will only do a scheduled maintence once a week. If I have to deal with some extra down time now in order for there to be less down time in the future then I'd rather do that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    washproof wrote: »
    you mean the regular, 8pm on the dot "unexpected" crash? you can set your watch by it tbh...

    well I work for a living, so i dont get alot of gaming time in the week, i play Sat, Sun & Tue if im lucky, it seems every time i come to get online its down.

    3am till 5am PST = 11am till 1pm GMT

    I Think it should be:

    1am till 3am PST = 9am till 11am GMT...

    after peak for America, before peak for europe...

    Then what about our Aussie friends? Or folks living in the Asia-Pac area? Now your proposed time is impacting them.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    ELITE-Kaos wrote: »
    Or they could take it down when they have the patch ready and not always pick the same time every day but then that would upset the yanks.... Imagine them having to endure 2 hours in the middle of Sunday.

    As to a better time, well thats the tough one so why not stagger the times just to show some farness. After all the world does not yet revolve around the USA :D

    The world might not revolve around us, but guess what, it's an American game, therefore, the maintenance schedule goes around our time, not yours, get used to it.
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