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Why so soon after the release of this MMO that i just spent $100 on the collectors edition of ( i played open beta till now) Am i going out to rent a game?

Sadly because this game is borderline TRIBBLE.
Dont get me wrong I do love the core of the game, when things work i have alot of fun playing.
But lets face it this game is a pathetic mess.

Massive amounts of show stopper bugs
Like all your items vanishing
Crashes etc
laggy servers that still havnt been updated a week after there ETA.
many missions are broken or uncompleteable.
comander 5 and ive had to cancel several missions already.
BO's falling through planets
Impossible chat system full fo gold spam (does apear to be getting better, the spam atleast)
Buggy ground combat, like when i switch weapons to use expose/exploit IT SWITCHES TARGET and i miss WTF.
Klingons...seriously people playin the klingon side are real troopers man they get all the bugs AND no content.
Horrible lack of info from mission locations to skills / item descriptions
COMPLETE LACK OF A PROPER WORKING SKILL SYSTEM!
A laughable crafting system (massive money sink for useless items)
Now they have added new content and items and theres no way to use the items properly
CAUSE THE LACK OF A PROPER SKILL SYSTEM FFS.

For a long time i was fanboi'n it up, beatin down the naysayers sayin its beta, its early release, it will get fixed.
Then i see them rush to GET ****IN SKIRTS out !!!!!1111!!!!1!! thats BS what about fixin the damn game adding a freekin working skill system etc etc.

Gaurantee there thinkin of more ways to drain you of money through the C-store then they are worried about fixing the game.

With all that said I still want this game to work, you got till my free 30 days are up for me to see some real changes otherwise no money for you.
Atleast give us a nice state of the game adress where you talk about the mistake you made with the broken skill system and ill consider it.

Till then theres better games to play.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I hope you enjoy your new game and that it brings you countless hours of pleasure.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kassidus wrote: »
    Why so soon after the release of this MMO that i just spent $100 on the collectors edition of ( i played open beta till now) Am i going out to rent a game?

    Sadly because this game is borderline TRIBBLE.
    Dont get me wrong I do love the core of the game, when things work i have alot of fun playing.
    But lets face it this game is a pathetic mess.

    Massive amounts of show stopper bugs
    Like all your items vanishing
    Crashes etc
    laggy servers that still havnt been updated a week after there ETA.
    many missions are broken or uncompleteable.
    comander 5 and ive had to cancel several missions already.
    BO's falling through planets
    Impossible chat system full fo gold spam (does apear to be getting better, the spam atleast)
    Buggy ground combat, like when i switch weapons to use expose/exploit IT SWITCHES TARGET and i miss WTF.
    Klingons...seriously people playin the klingon side are real troopers man they get all the bugs AND no content.
    Horrible lack of info from mission locations to skills / item descriptions
    COMPLETE LACK OF A PROPER WORKING SKILL SYSTEM!
    A laughable crafting system (massive money sink for useless items)
    Now they have added new content and items and theres no way to use the items properly
    CAUSE THE LACK OF A PROPER SKILL SYSTEM FFS.

    For a long time i was fanboi'n it up, beatin down the naysayers sayin its beta, its early release, it will get fixed.
    Then i see them rush to GET ****IN SKIRTS out !!!!!1111!!!!1!! thats BS what about fixin the damn game adding a freekin working skill system etc etc.

    Gaurantee there thinkin of more ways to drain you of money through the C-store then they are worried about fixing the game.

    With all that said I still want this game to work, you got till my free 30 days are up for me to see some real changes otherwise no money for you.
    Atleast give us a nice state of the game adress where you talk about the mistake you made with the broken skill system and ill consider it.

    Till then theres better games to play.

    Funny, as I've leveled

    One to Lt Cmdr 8
    One to Lt Cmdr 1
    Then I erased him and redid him to Lt Cmdr 3
    One to Lt 6 or 7

    And I've yet to see any of all that buggery. AND I had time to sleep, eat, spend time with the wife, work, and frag the hell out of people in 2Fort on Team Fortress 2.

    Good luck out there in the black.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    An mmo with less than 2 years development time at launch compared to a game that has had years and is heavily optimized for systems.

    Op, did you attend high school at all.? because it seems you're lacking basic common sense.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    tedgp123 wrote: »
    An mmo with less than 2 years development time at launch compared to a game that has had years and is heavily optimized for systems.

    Op, did you attend high school at all.? because it seems you're lacking basic common sense.

    WTF you think in trying to compare bioshock 2 to STO lol you should read your own question.
    Im merely saying Ive been forced into playing other games.

    And everything i said up there is true weather or not your tiny brain can grasp the problems with this game
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zilag wrote:
    Funny, as I've leveled

    One to Lt Cmdr 8
    One to Lt Cmdr 1
    Then I erased him and redid him to Lt Cmdr 3
    One to Lt 6 or 7

    And I've yet to see any of all that buggery. AND I had time to sleep, eat, spend time with the wife, work, and frag the hell out of people in 2Fort on Team Fortress 2.

    Good luck out there in the black.

    Lucky you, just cause one person has no problems or fails to see the glairing defects does not mean they do not exist for many others or not at all
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zilag wrote:
    Funny, as I've leveled

    One to Lt Cmdr 8
    One to Lt Cmdr 1
    Then I erased him and redid him to Lt Cmdr 3
    One to Lt 6 or 7

    And I've yet to see any of all that buggery. AND I had time to sleep, eat, spend time with the wife, work, and frag the hell out of people in 2Fort on Team Fortress 2.

    Good luck out there in the black.

    Apparently, as someone posted in response to a similar post I made, this is the exception.

    And 2Fort is the awesome.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Buying a new MMO is like investing, you take a chance and need to wait to see your investment mature. Sometimes your investment doesn't mature and you lose. If you are new to MMO's then this is news to you but if you know MMO's and aren't new to them it's not.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kassidus wrote: »

    Massive amounts of show stopper bugs
    Like all your items vanishing
    Crashes etc
    laggy servers that still havnt been updated a week after there ETA.
    I havn't had any lag for a few days and its a new mmo
    many missions are broken or uncompleteable.
    Name some?
    comander 5 and ive had to cancel several missions already.
    Name some?
    BO's falling through planets
    Never happened to me and i havn't heard anyone complaining about that
    Impossible chat system full fo gold spam (does apear to be getting better, the spam atleast)
    right click > report spam
    Buggy ground combat, like when i switch weapons to use expose/exploit IT SWITCHES TARGET and i miss WTF.
    Never had or heard of this problem either
    Klingons...seriously people playin the klingon side are real troopers man they get all the bugs AND no content.
    meh i'll agree with you on that
    Horrible lack of info from mission locations to skills / item descriptions
    Read what the mission actually involves instead of just skipping the text and what are the items missing i don't understand
    COMPLETE LACK OF A PROPER WORKING SKILL SYSTEM!
    A laughable crafting system (massive money sink for useless items)
    Now they have added new content and items and theres no way to use the items properly
    Wait, what?
    CAUSE THE LACK OF A PROPER SKILL SYSTEM FFS.
    .

    Anyway enjoy your Bioshock 2, first one sucked imo
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    so any way, how is the new bioshock?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kassidus wrote: »
    Then i see them rush to GET ****IN SKIRTS out !!!!!1111!!!!1!! thats BS what about fixin the damn game adding a freekin working skill system etc etc.

    One of the reasons they rushed to get the skirts out is because they specifically stated in an interview that the original series uniform preorder bonus would include mini skirts.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    so any way, how is the new bioshock?

    Good so far, just wish they were scarier like the origianl System shock was, infact i hope they remake that one/
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    One of the reasons they rushed to get the skirts out is because they specifically stated in an interview that the original series uniform preorder bonus would include mini skirts.

    YEah well the game orignally stated there would be a Uncapped skill system, hell im sure they implied there was some kind of working skill system but there isnt one of those yet and thats a hell of a lot more inportant than skirts.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kassidus wrote: »
    YEah well the game orignally stated there would be a Uncapped skill system, hell im sure they implied there was some kind of working skill system but there isnt one of those yet and thats a hell of a lot more inportant than skirts.

    Can you be more specific than saying the skill system does not work, In what way does it not work?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Q:BO's falling through planets
    A:Never happened to me and i havn't heard anyone complaining about that

    - they do this to me :(
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kassidus wrote: »
    YEah well the game orignally stated there would be a Uncapped skill system, hell im sure they implied there was some kind of working skill system but there isnt one of those yet and thats a hell of a lot more inportant than skirts.

    The skill system works just fine, and I'm RADM.

    Hyperbole much?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Can you be more specific than saying the skill system does not work, In what way does it not work?

    Well if you havnt seen the neumerous threads or figured it out for yourself i really dont want to write it all out.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kassidus wrote: »
    WTF you think in trying to compare bioshock 2 to STO lol you should read your own question.
    Im merely saying Ive been forced into playing other games.

    And everything i said up there is true weather or not your tiny brain can grasp the problems with this game

    Yes, Cryptic employees showed up with a variety of fully automatic weapons and said, "You going to rent Bioshock, NOW!". That's being forced. You chose to rent Bioshock, because your a child of today's society, therefore you need instant gratification. This wasn't good enough NAO, I want my money back NAO, QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ QQQQ QQQ QQQQQ.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The skill system works just fine, and I'm RADM.

    Hyperbole much?

    Then you clearly lack the intelligence to see the problem.
    And i cant help you with that.

    The system does not work fine.
    The entire game was built around a capless system
    Then they capped it
    If youc ant see all the issues that has created your blinded by your fanboi goggles.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kassidus wrote: »
    Well if you havnt seen the neumerous threads or figured it out for yourself i really dont want to write it all out.

    You seriously need to chill out, your posts just radiate hostility. I ask you to put up specific data to support your statement and all you can do is be either too irate or to lazy to post said information.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yes, Cryptic employees showed up with a variety of fully automatic weapons and said, "You going to rent Bioshock, NOW!". That's being forced. You chose to rent Bioshock, because your a child of today's society, therefore you need instant gratification. This wasn't good enough NAO, I want my money back NAO, QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ QQQQ QQQ QQQQQ.

    lol, im probably older than you im just smart enough to see a broken game and not blindly accept the TRIBBLE TRIBBLE that is happening right now.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kassidus wrote: »
    Then you clearly lack the intelligence to see the problem.
    And i cant help you with that.

    The system does not work fine.
    The entire game was built around a capless system
    Then they capped it
    If youc ant see all the issues that has created your blinded by your fanboi goggles.

    And you're just a troll who doesn't know how to specialize.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    You seriously need to chill out, your post just radiate hostility. I ask you to put up specific data to support your statement and all you can do is be either too irate or to lazy to post said information.

    Exactly Im angry as **** that people are oblivious to the issues at hand and i dont want to have to repeat it every time someone asks cause there incappable of lookin around because people only see what they want to see.

    Ill repeat this again, I LOVE THE CORE OF THIS GAME, I have TONS of fun when things work right.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Hm, flaming the OP. Lets see..

    Massive amounts of show stopper bugs
    Like all your items vanishing
    -Not following you here. Not one item vanished for me. Give more feedback.

    Crashes etc
    -True, many crashes, very annoying.

    laggy servers that still havnt been updated a week after there ETA.
    -True, lots of "rubberbanding" in sector space and ground. They need to fix this sht quick.

    many missions are broken or uncompleteable.
    -Many? No, just a few here and there are broken.

    comander 5 and ive had to cancel several missions already.
    -So have I, but TRIBBLE it.

    BO's falling through planets
    -I thought this was fixed? It appears to be; HOWEVER, the pathfinding for the NPC's is just stupid. This needs to be bumped to the top of the fix list.

    Impossible chat system full fo gold spam (does apear to be getting better, the spam atleast)
    -Yeah, but expected for a new MMO.

    Buggy ground combat, like when i switch weapons to use expose/exploit IT SWITCHES TARGET and i miss WTF.
    -Haven't come across this at all.

    Klingons...seriously people playin the klingon side are real troopers man they get all the bugs AND no content.
    -Indeed.

    Horrible lack of info from mission locations to skills / item descriptions
    -Yeah, but just for a few. With respect to this, maps are a joke and there is no excuse for it. Having to alt+tab to some site is just b/s.

    COMPLETE LACK OF A PROPER WORKING SKILL SYSTEM!
    -Very true here.

    A laughable crafting system (massive money sink for useless items)
    -When I went to Memory Alpha for the first time, I thought "this is what they call a crafting system? Interesting."

    Now they have added new content and items and theres no way to use the items properly
    CAUSE THE LACK OF A PROPER SKILL SYSTEM FFS.
    -Redundant
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kassidus wrote: »
    Exactly Im angry as **** that people are oblivious to the issues at hand and i dont want to have to repeat it every time someone asks cause there incappable of lookin around because people only see what they want to see.

    Ill repeat this again, I LOVE THE CORE OF THIS GAME, I have TONS of fun when things work right.

    Then relax about the skills. As I said, I'm at max level, and have spent all of my skill points. It works fine. You're just angry that it's not working as you would like, because the way it's coded would **** up the game should they change the level cap.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kassidus wrote: »
    lol, im probably older than you im just smart enough to see a broken game and not blindly accept the TRIBBLE TRIBBLE that is happening right now.
    MMOs are a work in progress, they start ******, then get better. If people like you played WoW at launch, it never would have gotten anywhere. Ya'll would have *****ed and moaned about this or that, kneeling for 17 hours perpetually trying to pick up loot, queues into the hundreds of minutes, servers down for days, the span of time when the Auth server went down and you prayed you weren't disconnected. But Star Trek is broken beyond that. The skill system doesn't work! OMG! They're TRIBBLE TRIBBLE us all right. They made make choices in what skills we want, so we are a master of one, not a jack of all trades.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    And you're just a troll who doesn't know how to specialize.

    Specialize doesnt work!!!
    I am specialized Ive maxed out phasers and photons!!! now I cant specialize in ANYTHING ELSE that comes later I am half way through the game and HAVE SPECIALIZED in the only weapons i can. and there WILL NOT be enoug points for me to do so later for any of the other options that open up.

    I am flying a ship that I CANT NOT put points into because it doesnt effect later ships and if i were to put points into it I RUN OUT OF POINTS LATER.

    Unfortunately I have to put points into somnething so i can progress, so i end with a bunch of things that i dont really need or wont use just so i can get acess to things later i wont have enough points to put into.

    I can buy any ship in the game Can i fly it? no.

    The system was MADE CAPLESS now its caped are you TRIBBLE? you really dont see this problem?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zilag wrote:
    Funny, as I've leveled

    One to Lt Cmdr 8
    One to Lt Cmdr 1
    Then I erased him and redid him to Lt Cmdr 3
    One to Lt 6 or 7

    And I've yet to see any of all that buggery. AND I had time to sleep, eat, spend time with the wife, work, and frag the hell out of people in 2Fort on Team Fortress 2.

    Good luck out there in the black.

    I dont see bugs as a problem at all either, I have not seen very many bugs at all, almost none, just functionality / design decisions. Even server issues really are not bug issues, but more likely design issues.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kassidus wrote: »
    Specialize doesnt work!!!
    I am specialized Ive maxed out phasers and photons!!! now I cant specialize in ANYTHING ELSE that comes later I am half way through the game and HAVE SPECIALIZED in the only weapons i can. and there WILL NOT be enoug points for me to do so later for any of the other options that open up.

    I am flying a ship that I CANT NOT put points into because it doesnt effect later ships and if i were to put points into it I RUN OUT OF POINTS LATER.

    Unfortunately I have to put points into somnething so i can progress, so i end with a bunch of things that i dont really need or wont use just so i can get acess to things later i wont have enough points to put into.

    I can buy any ship in the game Can i fly it? no.

    The system was MADE CAPLESS now its caped are you TRIBBLE? you really dont see this problem?

    Umm, what? I'm specialized in Phasers, Disruptors, Quantums and Transphasics. I can switch between any of those at will.

    Also, there isn't a need to specialize in more than one weapon type, as they all do the same DPS at the same mark.

    Also, I didn't take the Tier 3 or Tier 4 ship skills. I flew them just fine.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Kassidus wrote: »
    Specialize doesnt work!!!
    I am specialized Ive maxed out phasers and photons!!! now I cant specialize in ANYTHING ELSE that comes later I am half way through the game and HAVE SPECIALIZED in the only weapons i can. and there WILL NOT be enoug points for me to do so later for any of the other options that open up.

    I am flying a ship that I CANT NOT put points into because it doesnt effect later ships and if i were to put points into it I RUN OUT OF POINTS LATER.

    Unfortunately I have to put points into somnething so i can progress, so i end with a bunch of things that i dont really need or wont use just so i can get acess to things later i wont have enough points to put into.

    I can buy any ship in the game Can i fly it? no.

    The system was MADE CAPLESS now its caped are you TRIBBLE? you really dont see this problem?
    No, I don't see a problem, you just described the talent system for most MMOs, you put points into TRIBBLE your never going to use again past leveling. Your making it out into the huge dramatical affair, that if it gets any more dramatic, expect Broadway to call soon, they haven't had a eye tearing play there in a while, and this just seems like it. The Angry Man and his MMO. It'd be sold out nightly. But you do realize that... oh my goodness... when respecs are in the game in 1~2 months... you can change all those skills and be... better at other stuff? It's so exciting!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I give up, if people think the game is all roses then awesome for you, just like why TRIBBLE are always smiling.
    Ignorance is bliss.

    but if things dont change a couple vegatables wont be enough to save it and it will have its 1 year anniversary in a plot next to tabula rasa.
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