lol been away for a while just popped in to see if the games improved any, as the last of our guild has now left the game, never seen so many unhappy threads all predicting doom.
I remember saying pre launch with the loss of the 2 factions that people will come into this game unhappy and look for reasons why it does not work rather than look for the positives.
Must say it even worse than I thought, the only positive replies is almost always from the same bunch of people, the same ones who turned any thread that was questioning anything about the game into a slinging match.
This game will never be a big game now, it will become a niche game for a few fans who will always only see what they want.
Its a real pity as I had such high hopes for this game, and these clowns ruined it.
Should have known a) when they changed the feet ships (crews)
Got rid of 2nd factions then lied about it
When there Main Mod guy on here sent out the email telling people how to cheat to try win that competition for most awaited MMO
They have shown no class through out the making of this game don't expect any now!
what a waste of what could have been a bloody great game, instead of this one sided instanced filled game with monster play on the side!!
Must say it even worse than I thought, the only positive replies is almost always from the same bunch of people, the same ones who turned any thread that was questioning anything about the game into a slinging match.
LOL, yeah like your post isn't 1 out of 1000 whining/crying post.
You sir, fail to deliver :cool:
lol been away for a while just popped in to see if the games improved any, as the last of our guild has now left the game, never seen so many unhappy threads all predicting doom.
Welcome to official MMO forums, you must be new here?
This game is a total miss for mmorpg enthusiasts. Its actually more akin to a MMOFPS or MMOTPS (Third-Person SHooter). Much like Global Agenda; the devs should own-up to the fact that this game is not a mmorpg.
So my take based on my Klingon experience and having explored the experience posted of others is this:
- There doesn't seem to be much respect for the Star Trek IP.
- Space is space-less. Each map is nothing more than a confining shoe-box, a small space of nothing to interact with.
- There is no game-play freedom of exploration. No exploration to other planets or discovery; again, your confined to your shoe-box instance. There's nothing dynamically to do in this game that would be reminiscent of Star Trek.
- If you do see a planet on an instanced map, there is no "away-team" capability to freely explore its surface. Its nothing more than a static inactive marble that you bounce off of in your confined instance.
- Space flight is confining and lacks freedom. There's a limited z-axis that prevents looping or gaining weapons locks on ships that are above or below, yet in front of you in many cases. It just adds to the unnecessary maneuvering of your ship.
- Space is life-less, other than the instance nodes that you bump into to enter for a ship pve encounter, or to wait in a long line of trying to perform pvp with other players; its esentially a single-player lobby system game that your forced to pay $15 a month for. If you see an opposing faction player on a system map, there is absolutely no engagement.
- Content is sorely lacking to the point where very very early on in this game, the 'instanced' pve quests are nothing more than similar repeatable maps and mobs of previous quests done; the static nature of pve and its' redundancy is astounding.
- Quest copywriting seems very week that leads to weak story engagement or sense of draw that your actually contributing to a story-arc or meaningfully contributing to federation or klingon game-play.
- Space and ground game-play combat has the most limiting, redundant, Quake 3rd-person shooter type feel of any game in the mmorpg market; its shallow.
- There is no physics to ground combat as there is no physics to space combat that factor into game-play.
- Ground and Space pvp combat amounts to a frag-fest of limited players and non-tactical or strategic importance in any respect to story or game-play in this faction vs. faction environment.
- Like a 3rd-person or first-person shooter, the player-vs-player stuff is without any game-play contributory value, other than winning a small confining map, it amounts to run, gun, die, or run,gun, win, limp, die. But your rewarded as much for being a loser as a winner; no mmoprg game-play distinction. I havent found the game-play nutrition in this yet.
- There is no reasonable complimentary opposite to winning. You win in space and on ground, you get a battery or such (a weak reward), you lose on space or on ground, you miraculously reappear next to the fight to battle like a button mashing mindless drone without consequences again. Lack of consequences to death has turned this title into a series of suicide runs for the same exact reward I get for battling tactically and strategically. The grossly equivalent rewards for those that die often is enough to leave this game.
- The community (massively multiplayer) element of this mmorpg is very fragmented (as opposed to expanded and cooperative) due to the great number of single-player feel instances. Community feels fragmented to one of those several small instanced zones that does nothing to encourage the feel of massively multiplayer entertainment.
- No alternative industry, aka, no resource gathering towards community crafting, enterprise, or merchandising elements for the federation or klingons. Would be nice if this mmorpg staple were available to players, rather than being non-existant.
You clearly dont understand what the letters MMORPG stand for do you?
Massively
Mulitplayer
Online
Role
Playing
Game
So is it multiplayer? yes massivlely? thousands of people i would say so
Role playing? by deffinition all role playing games have a form of "class or job" in which you undertake, and by gaining expierence you improve upon your skills and abilities by leveling them up. So yes its an RPG
Thus, it is in fact an MMORPG the rest of your post i didnt read as i believe it is a moot point!
I'm always amazed at why those who don't like a game can't understand that they're not the only ones entitled to an opinion, and that for each thing they dislike there's their "mirror universe" opposites who likes it; and for each thing they like there's going to be someone who dislikes it. I've played dozens of games over the last decade: liked some, hated others, and some I disliked I came back to months or years later and learned to appreciate, but in all that time I never assumed my own, subjective, personal opinion was somehow more valid then someone else's. If you don't like a game then walk away. Come back in a 6 months or a year and give it another try. And most of all learn to accept that your opinion is just yours, not everyone's.
Must say it even worse than I thought, the only positive replies is almost always from the same bunch of people, the same ones who turned any thread that was questioning anything about the game into a slinging match.
Must say it even worse than I thought, the only negative replies is almost always from the same bunch of people, the same ones who turned any thread about the game into a slinging match.
fixed for thruth..
what a waste of what could have been a bloody great game, instead of this one sided instanced filled game with monster play on the side!!
you guys play LoTRO right? So you DO know what monster play actually is.
lol been away for a while just popped in to see if the games improved any, as the last of our guild has now left the game, never seen so many unhappy threads all predicting doom.
Give me a fricking break ... You've been a way for a while? The game has only been officially live for 10 days.
While I have my complaints about the game ... in what world is "been away a while" valid for something that has only existed 10 days?
What? You went to Vegas for the weekend and expected some stellar, mind-boggling change when you came back on Monday?
My best friend Billy hates Rock music. Billy loves pop, loves to dress in tight gold pants and listen to Britney Spears. I told Billy that if he wants to be my friend he has to like what i like, I forced him to like rock music. I bullied him and made him feel bad and inferior for enjoying pop music. I insulted him for having different taste in music. But he never listened.
Hell..what does Billy knows? he is a jack a**. Never deserved to be my friend in first place. OP you are very much like me. Want to be BFF?
lol been away for a while just popped in to see if the games improved any, as the last of our guild has now left the game, never seen so many unhappy threads all predicting doom.
I remember saying pre launch with the loss of the 2 factions that people will come into this game unhappy and look for reasons why it does not work rather than look for the positives.
Must say it even worse than I thought, the only positive replies is almost always from the same bunch of people, the same ones who turned any thread that was questioning anything about the game into a slinging match.
This game will never be a big game now, it will become a niche game for a few fans who will always only see what they want.
Its a real pity as I had such high hopes for this game, and these clowns ruined it.
Should have known a) when they changed the feet ships (crews)
Got rid of 2nd factions then lied about it
When there Main Mod guy on here sent out the email telling people how to cheat to try win that competition for most awaited MMO
They have shown no class through out the making of this game don't expect any now!
what a waste of what could have been a bloody great game, instead of this one sided instanced filled game with monster play on the side!!
Meh, it reminds me of every other game forum I've ever read. It doesn't matter if it's lotro, AoC, WoW, SWG, Aion, WAR, ad nauseum
There is always a very vocal group that doesn't like X but loves Y; doesn't like Y but loves X; hate both X and Y, or are simply prophets of doom. Some games are for some people and others aren't. The wheels on the bus go round and round.
I was very careful when buying this game. I read review. watched countless of videos....every where the negative input was visible clearly....Anyway I took a risk and bought the game.
I was very positively surprised. The engine this game is running on feels very solid, stylish cartoon look. Not "amazing" but still great looking game. You get the feeling that it's very technically flexible engine that allows developers to offer us many kind of fun stuff in the future.
I know the combat feels a bit "arcade" if you come from other mmo's...but let me ask you this. How much difference. I mean I found it quite intense trying to balance my shields while trying to provide as much damage as possible plus having to control my ship at the same time. Been playing few other mmo's and coming from those "hit buttons in order and repeat" combat-systems...this is refreshing.
The ground combat while currently a bit weak, with some tuning it can turn out to be very great system, especially when thinking about possible pvp and pve team working.
so in short, I was suspicious before trying this game but now. I'm enjoying the game currently and I sure will give the developers a chance to show us on what direction they can take this game to.
If the numbers of 1 million subscribers to the forums here is accurate, and even 10% of those actually bought the game, then the number of players with unhappy threads is a tiny percentage of the player base.
They just get noticed more often because the other happy players are playing in the game, not posting whine messages on the forum.
I don't mean to single out every complaint as a whine... some are legitimate... but many of the "I'm Quitting" threads are complete trollstuff.
lol been away for a while just popped in to see if the games improved any, as the last of our guild has now left the game, never seen so many unhappy threads all predicting doom.
I remember saying pre launch with the loss of the 2 factions that people will come into this game unhappy and look for reasons why it does not work rather than look for the positives.
Must say it even worse than I thought, the only positive replies is almost always from the same bunch of people, the same ones who turned any thread that was questioning anything about the game into a slinging match.
This game will never be a big game now, it will become a niche game for a few fans who will always only see what they want.
Its a real pity as I had such high hopes for this game, and these clowns ruined it.
Should have known a) when they changed the feet ships (crews)
Got rid of 2nd factions then lied about it
When there Main Mod guy on here sent out the email telling people how to cheat to try win that competition for most awaited MMO
They have shown no class through out the making of this game don't expect any now!
what a waste of what could have been a bloody great game, instead of this one sided instanced filled game with monster play on the side!!
You clearly looking in a bad place for positive reviews, the people who are enjoying the game are many many more then those who use the forums. However here in the forums are people either looking to start a fight, try and finish a fight, having problems of some sort, and then a very small group of people who want to help and can be calm about it.
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LOL, yeah like your post isn't 1 out of 1000 whining/crying post.
You sir, fail to deliver :cool:
Welcome to official MMO forums, you must be new here?
There's the door
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Check out his guild website in his signature and see how active their forums are. Good for a laugh.
So my take based on my Klingon experience and having explored the experience posted of others is this:
- There doesn't seem to be much respect for the Star Trek IP.
- Space is space-less. Each map is nothing more than a confining shoe-box, a small space of nothing to interact with.
- There is no game-play freedom of exploration. No exploration to other planets or discovery; again, your confined to your shoe-box instance. There's nothing dynamically to do in this game that would be reminiscent of Star Trek.
- If you do see a planet on an instanced map, there is no "away-team" capability to freely explore its surface. Its nothing more than a static inactive marble that you bounce off of in your confined instance.
- Space flight is confining and lacks freedom. There's a limited z-axis that prevents looping or gaining weapons locks on ships that are above or below, yet in front of you in many cases. It just adds to the unnecessary maneuvering of your ship.
- Space is life-less, other than the instance nodes that you bump into to enter for a ship pve encounter, or to wait in a long line of trying to perform pvp with other players; its esentially a single-player lobby system game that your forced to pay $15 a month for. If you see an opposing faction player on a system map, there is absolutely no engagement.
- Content is sorely lacking to the point where very very early on in this game, the 'instanced' pve quests are nothing more than similar repeatable maps and mobs of previous quests done; the static nature of pve and its' redundancy is astounding.
- Quest copywriting seems very week that leads to weak story engagement or sense of draw that your actually contributing to a story-arc or meaningfully contributing to federation or klingon game-play.
- Space and ground game-play combat has the most limiting, redundant, Quake 3rd-person shooter type feel of any game in the mmorpg market; its shallow.
- There is no physics to ground combat as there is no physics to space combat that factor into game-play.
- Ground and Space pvp combat amounts to a frag-fest of limited players and non-tactical or strategic importance in any respect to story or game-play in this faction vs. faction environment.
- Like a 3rd-person or first-person shooter, the player-vs-player stuff is without any game-play contributory value, other than winning a small confining map, it amounts to run, gun, die, or run,gun, win, limp, die. But your rewarded as much for being a loser as a winner; no mmoprg game-play distinction. I havent found the game-play nutrition in this yet.
- There is no reasonable complimentary opposite to winning. You win in space and on ground, you get a battery or such (a weak reward), you lose on space or on ground, you miraculously reappear next to the fight to battle like a button mashing mindless drone without consequences again. Lack of consequences to death has turned this title into a series of suicide runs for the same exact reward I get for battling tactically and strategically. The grossly equivalent rewards for those that die often is enough to leave this game.
- The community (massively multiplayer) element of this mmorpg is very fragmented (as opposed to expanded and cooperative) due to the great number of single-player feel instances. Community feels fragmented to one of those several small instanced zones that does nothing to encourage the feel of massively multiplayer entertainment.
- No alternative industry, aka, no resource gathering towards community crafting, enterprise, or merchandising elements for the federation or klingons. Would be nice if this mmorpg staple were available to players, rather than being non-existant.
I thought I was the only one! :eek:
Massively
Mulitplayer
Online
Role
Playing
Game
So is it multiplayer? yes massivlely? thousands of people i would say so
Role playing? by deffinition all role playing games have a form of "class or job" in which you undertake, and by gaining expierence you improve upon your skills and abilities by leveling them up. So yes its an RPG
Thus, it is in fact an MMORPG the rest of your post i didnt read as i believe it is a moot point!
Must say it even worse than I thought, the only negative replies is almost always from the same bunch of people, the same ones who turned any thread about the game into a slinging match.
fixed for thruth..
you guys play LoTRO right? So you DO know what monster play actually is.
flame more, these forums are in need of that.
Give me a fricking break ... You've been a way for a while? The game has only been officially live for 10 days.
While I have my complaints about the game ... in what world is "been away a while" valid for something that has only existed 10 days?
What? You went to Vegas for the weekend and expected some stellar, mind-boggling change when you came back on Monday?
Jesus. Some people.
Hell..what does Billy knows? he is a jack a**. Never deserved to be my friend in first place. OP you are very much like me. Want to be BFF?
Meh, it reminds me of every other game forum I've ever read. It doesn't matter if it's lotro, AoC, WoW, SWG, Aion, WAR, ad nauseum
There is always a very vocal group that doesn't like X but loves Y; doesn't like Y but loves X; hate both X and Y, or are simply prophets of doom. Some games are for some people and others aren't. The wheels on the bus go round and round.
I was very positively surprised. The engine this game is running on feels very solid, stylish cartoon look. Not "amazing" but still great looking game. You get the feeling that it's very technically flexible engine that allows developers to offer us many kind of fun stuff in the future.
I know the combat feels a bit "arcade" if you come from other mmo's...but let me ask you this. How much difference. I mean I found it quite intense trying to balance my shields while trying to provide as much damage as possible plus having to control my ship at the same time. Been playing few other mmo's and coming from those "hit buttons in order and repeat" combat-systems...this is refreshing.
The ground combat while currently a bit weak, with some tuning it can turn out to be very great system, especially when thinking about possible pvp and pve team working.
so in short, I was suspicious before trying this game but now. I'm enjoying the game currently and I sure will give the developers a chance to show us on what direction they can take this game to.
They just get noticed more often because the other happy players are playing in the game, not posting whine messages on the forum.
I don't mean to single out every complaint as a whine... some are legitimate... but many of the "I'm Quitting" threads are complete trollstuff.
The MMO forum drama never fails to amaze...:D
You clearly looking in a bad place for positive reviews, the people who are enjoying the game are many many more then those who use the forums. However here in the forums are people either looking to start a fight, try and finish a fight, having problems of some sort, and then a very small group of people who want to help and can be calm about it.