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So it seems to me the new patch missions besides the repetable borg defense is just for Feds?

Which means Feds get acess to PvE dailys that gives exlusive badges at twice the speed since they can do the daily PvP one too?

Are these missions coming to Klingon, or do you intend to have Klinks on a side burner just there to amuse Feds in PvP, much like monsters in Lords of the ring? Or do you intend to have all the content + the coming content to be acessble by both sides equaly and at the same time on patch day?

This is a major question mark for me, if I should play Klink as a main or not.


Thanks in advance if this gets any devs thoughts on the matter.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Learn to read!

    "7In addition, level 43+ Klingon players now have access to repeatable Borg related Klingon Defense missions."
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Celice wrote:
    Learn to read!

    "7In addition, level 43+ Klingon players now have access to repeatable Borg related Klingon Defense missions."

    you too! :rolleyes:

    "So it seems to me the new patch missions besides the repetable borg defense is just for Feds?"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    "Level 43+ Federation players now have access to missions versus the Borg. Talk to Admiral Quinn and use the transwarp conduit in the Risa to rendezvous at the Fleet Staging area to begin.

    These missions include:
    - 3 new Borg related episodes
    - Repeatable Star Cluster mission against Borg threats
    - Deep Space encounters with Patrolling Borg fleets
    - A Daily Star Cluster mission which grants Marks of Exploration for use at an exclusive store in the Staging Fleet to gear up for upcoming Raidisode content.

    In addition, level 43+ Klingon players now have access to repeatable Borg related Klingon Defense missions. "


    Thats pretty vague, and could be read as the feds get those missions and that Klinks only get a repetable defense missions, as they typed lvl 43+ Federation players.

    Thats why I asked on the forums mate, no need to be insulting.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    So Jaywrong, only feds get the new mission hub?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Klink!!???

    I think I saw you last night!

    Klingons got a little content in the patch. The reason that there was not more is simple: it is not done yet.

    Like me, just do the repeatables until you get bored, pvp some, and then go play your Federation character or do something else.

    Patience my friend, content is coming!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Klingons will not get any new content in the next few months, simply because to design content for klingons like takes time/money they are not willing to invest in a second-rate faction. Except for repeatable nebula type TRIBBLE we won't see much in the way of actual content. We are here to provide a distraction to the Fed darlings, nothing more.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zedrin wrote:
    Klingons will not get any new content in the next few months, simply because to design content for klingons like takes time/money they are not willing to invest in a second-rate faction. Except for repeatable nebula type TRIBBLE we won't see much in the way of actual content. We are here to provide a distraction to the Fed darlings, nothing more.

    No no no no no no no. Geez people, please read up and know about what you are talking about. Cryptic has stated, many times, before BETA, during BETA, during Headstart, and even after launch, Klingons were ment to be a PvP faction. They are based around PvP. They level based on PvP. A majority of their missions and story lines are centered around, PvP. They are changing the way they originally wanted to faction to work because you people are complaining. Be thankful, or go back to PvPing.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    So Jaywrong, only feds get the new mission hub?

    no clue, i'm stuck at work. i was only commenting on celice's lack of understanding with your original post.

    that poster wants you to learn how to read, when, in retrospect, he/she did not even read what you had said.

    it hurted my brainy. ;)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Tysis wrote:
    Klink!!???

    I think I saw you last night!

    Klingons got a little content in the patch. The reason that there was not more is simple: it is not done yet.

    Like me, just do the repeatables until you get bored, pvp some, and then go play your Federation character or do something else.

    Patience my friend, content is coming!

    Actualy it is because Cryptic is shafting us on PvE all together. Cryptic needs to fish or cut bait. If they cant ballance the PvP & PvE aspests for both sides they need to give the game to someone that can.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    No no no no no no no. Geez people, please read up and know about what you are talking about. Cryptic has stated, many times, before BETA, during BETA, during Headstart, and even after launch, Klingons were ment to be a PvP faction. They are based around PvP. They level based on PvP. A majority of their missions and story lines are centered around, PvP. They are changing the way they originally wanted to faction to work because you people are complaining. Be thankful, or go back to PvPing.

    Not trying to be a jerk but YOU need to read up, or at least be educated if you weren't in closed beta. Jackalope started playing as a Klingon when they first became available to players in closed beta. He was instantly smitten, and dismayed at the development plan for Klingons - i.e., no PvE content for a long while, and then only a little. He has since taken it upon himself to get not only a PvE advancement system put in place, he started the development himself. Klingons should see at least some of it in the 45 day patch.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    No no no no no no no. Geez people, please read up and know about what you are talking about. Cryptic has stated, many times, before BETA, during BETA, during Headstart, and even after launch, Klingons were ment to be a PvP faction. They are based around PvP. They level based on PvP. A majority of their missions and story lines are centered around, PvP. They are changing the way they originally wanted to faction to work because you people are complaining. Be thankful, or go back to PvPing.

    just wanted to quickly point out that the sto community members who were here when the forums first launched more than a year ago, with myself included, were of the understanding that the klingy faction would be as robust in content and playability as the fed faction. there are many quotes from emmert and zinc that supported this as well (though i am at a loss of where those would be at the moment). i'm sure someone more savvy with the forums would be happy to provide the linkage.

    now, things obviously changed, and we have more or less, as a community, gotten used to it, but i just want to point out that the lack of content for klingy's has a much deeper story and had a lot more conflict that was rooted a long time ago then what you state daelin.. its only fair to mention that aspect.

    :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Tysis wrote:
    Klink!!???

    I think I saw you last night!

    Klingons got a little content in the patch. The reason that there was not more is simple: it is not done yet.

    Like me, just do the repeatables until you get bored, pvp some, and then go play your Federation character or do something else.

    Patience my friend, content is coming!

    Yeah I PvP alot, but that doesnt stop me from wanting PvE content when I need a break ;) also if the fedbears get an PvE daily for exklusive loot they will be gaining loot at twice the rate of us so I want some answers =)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    jaywrong wrote: »
    no clue, i'm stuck at work. i was only commenting on celice's lack of understanding with your original post.

    that poster wants you to learn how to read, when, in retrospect, he/she did not even read what you had said.

    it hurted my brainy. ;)


    Yeah I know, typical Forum bashers but hey the troll forums all around the world ;)

    Any high lvl 43+ Klink care to enlighten us as to the very elusive Patch notes: Did we get the new mission hub or dident we?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The Klingon as a PvP faction TRIBBLE came about just in December - until then everyone was convinced Klingons would be equal to Feds. But as Cryptic ran out of time/money/etc and Atari wanted a product => the current "faction" or better called monster play called Klingons.

    Nobody liked it and Cryptic even acted "surprised" when people complained all over the internet that the game was basically gutted. And it is.

    A fully instanced game with very little interaction between players (remember when people complained about AoC because it was too instanced - STO has 5 times that), no real faction system, meaningless PvP, no PvE past 2 weeks of content... You can see why people question Cryptic's ability to make good on its promises (Champions Offline being another example of this ability).

    Oh and the line they fed us "if Klingons want PvE too we'll add it!". What did they actually expect? That players wanting to play Klingon would be satisfied to be the servants of the Feds when they wanted to PvP? That we were here simply as a another way of filling up time and keep subscriptions running for the 10000 Picards, Kirks, Janeways and Siskos?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    They said that they're adding PvE for you guys in the 45 day patch. You know this, and we know this.

    Should you already have it? Yes, but don't act like it isn't coming.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    They said they were adding the "Raidisodes" (basically 5 man missions - not fit for the name) for us "too". Nothing else. A Klingon still has to go from 5 to 45 doing nothing but PvP and repeatable mind numbing TRIBBLE. I don't expect to see Klingons as a full faction in under a year, possibly with an expansion to line their pockets a bit.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    No no no no no no no. Geez people, please read up and know about what you are talking about. Cryptic has stated, many times, before BETA, during BETA, during Headstart, and even after launch, Klingons were ment to be a PvP faction. They are based around PvP. They level based on PvP. A majority of their missions and story lines are centered around, PvP. They are changing the way they originally wanted to faction to work because you people are complaining. Be thankful, or go back to PvPing.

    You have no idea what you're talking about.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yeah I know, typical Forum bashers but hey the troll forums all around the world ;)

    Any high lvl 43+ Klink care to enlighten us as to the very elusive Patch notes: Did we get the new mission hub or dident we?

    they just opened a new nebula against borgs with the typical kill 3 * X waves mission and added the daily mission against the borgs .
    The zone itself was already there
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    No no no no no no no. Geez people, please read up and know about what you are talking about. Cryptic has stated, many times, before BETA, during BETA, during Headstart, and even after launch, Klingons were ment to be a PvP faction. They are based around PvP. They level based on PvP. A majority of their missions and story lines are centered around, PvP. They are changing the way they originally wanted to faction to work because you people are complaining. Be thankful, or go back to PvPing.

    Take your own advice.

    /headexplode
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yeah the nebula is the same TRIBBLE grind that Kahless and all others were. Nothing special since it was actually already there.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The main issue here is not that klingons get less pve then feds.
    Its simply that feds get the ability to gear up at twice the speed..
    Which In short means Klingons will be left in the dust..

    This could easily be corrected by letting klingons do theyr Pvp daily quest twice per day...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    No no no no no no no. Geez people, please read up and know about what you are talking about. Cryptic has stated, many times, before BETA, during BETA, during Headstart, and even after launch, Klingons were ment to be a PvP faction. They are based around PvP. They level based on PvP. A majority of their missions and story lines are centered around, PvP. They are changing the way they originally wanted to faction to work because you people are complaining. Be thankful, or go back to PvPing.

    So... if you wanna do missions and the other ...what 90% of the game go Fed, if you want to ONLY DO PVP EVER go Klingon?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    That's the gist of it. Basically half their subscriber base has the option to either play the half of the game they don't want to play - or to leave. Either way it wont be good news for Cryptic, but I'm guessing they cashed in a bit from the sales and the very smart people who bought life subscriptions.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Ever since I joined the forums in the summer, klingons were going to have to less PvE than Feds, and were going to have a more robust PvP system to compensate. THis in Late November/early december changed to almost no PvE, which after outcry they relented and went back to the original plan. At no point when things were announced were the two factions supposed to have the same PvP/PvE balance. They said on the U-turn that the 1st proper PvE for the klingons would arrive with the 45 day patch. Anything we get earlier is a bonus.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Zedrin wrote:
    That's the gist of it. Basically half their subscriber base has the option to either play the half of the game they don't want to play - or to leave. Either way it wont be good news for Cryptic, but I'm guessing they cashed in a bit from the sales and the very smart people who bought life subscriptions.

    Yeah, Im starting to feel pretty screwed honestly. I like the game, its fun, buit its not what it should have been at all.
    Im honestly thinking that Atari offered Cryptic so much money in on time bonuses that it would make up for killing the game and Cryptic's "vision" and "intent" for the game was less resolute than the sheer amount of cash they were being offered to push it out.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Munx wrote: »
    The main issue here is not that klingons get less pve then feds.
    Its simply that feds get the ability to gear up at twice the speed..
    Which In short means Klingons will be left in the dust..

    This could easily be corrected by letting klingons do theyr Pvp daily quest twice per day...

    Exactly!

    This also creates the problem of nobody wanting to play Klingon. Why bother if there's no content? No way to keep up with the opposing faction.

    Should the Klingons be more PvP based than Feds? Sure. I don't think anyone expects there to be as many PvE missions and exploration...but they do expect some. Klingons didn't build an empire without science and exploration.

    Im holding out hope that the 45 day patch brings something to the table. But 6 years of development is a long time to be this lopsided.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Wait until FvF comes. Then really NOBODY will play Klingons. Why would they? PvP on demand (KvK supposedly was this) - Feds have it. Full PvE options - Feds only. Better overall gameplay experience and progression paths - Feds only. Crafting - as crappy as it is - Feds only. Same gear as Klingons - Feds too. Better and more diverse options in gear - Feds only. etc.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I was not aware of alot that has been said in this thread about klingongs and their content and coming content, I wish they had better info on their sites about their visions for the games factions.

    What is this 45 day patch everybody is talking about? Like some kind of miracle patch for Klingons PvE content, a copy and pasted fed PvE missions and story arcs?

    I would settle for that and equal rights to new content, so we progress at endgame at the same tempo as the Feds, anything less and that alone screws up the PvP balance =)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    No answer on the 45 day patch ?
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