Like anyone of the fans would care, but maybe Cryptic does.
Lack of anything to do but the same looking areas, over and over.
The planet beam down planet surfaces are way to small to even feel like you're exploring anything.
Lack of settlements and quests on the surface of said planets.
Space combat is way to easy, once geared up some, it's just a merry-go-round, hit them with their shields down, yawn...
Loot is laughable, I can get the same stuff off vendors or no hassle exchange for pennies.
Exchange is a joke, energy credits are almost worthless. I'm a completely new character, made 1K EC and within 1.5h working Exchange market I was up to over 150K.
AI for away team is really OP, if they're not stuck in walls, or behind something. Other mobs stuck in stuff, firing away that's the only time combat is a challange trying to lure said mob out of hiding.
No real effort into playing and already half way through levels playing only a few hours a day.
No real mention on how to do key things in the game, that's the only exploration, just trying to figure out how to make something do what you need it to do because the information is so brief. Then you gotta ask in chat that's being spam bombed by EC farmers. I've gotta sit there igrnoring like crazy just hoping my ignore hits the right name at the right time. If this fails, you get to min the game and look online for the information. If your sound works when you go fullscreen again you're good if not restart game. This takes away from the whole immersion.
There's so many more things, I could go on... Blah blah it's release, give it time, yes yes yes. I know all this, I'm not even complaining about the disconnects from server, I've lived through the worst of those issues in Age of Conan, Anarchy Online, Asheron's Call (with rollbacks I might add), just to name a few.
Good luck to Cryptic, and God speed to all the players... you'll need it or this will end up like Earth and Beyond.
Impatient? Isn't this a released game? Did I just pay 60 bucks for a game, that I find way to easy and all the above mentioned problems?
All this should have been resolved in beta. A beta I might add, you had to pre-order the game to get in. This game only shows just how suddenly developers release titles to get revenue going and then expect us to be patient and wait?
It's not just this game, it's a mass majority of mmo's these days. These companies are just spitting them out, if something hits awesome for them... if not, poor player base who has put time and effort into said game.
I've been around this long enough to spot a sinking ship if there's not a MASSIVE turn around being put in place, and a company addressing their player base needs.
I'd say 1/4 of their initial sales and subscriptions drop off before trial period ends. As the other players wait for fixes and updates, those will slowly drop off. Then after another year of trying to stay afloat they'll pull the server plug and apologize to all the loyal fans.
I agree with the OP, is rather mudane and repetitive atm, just isnt much to do, and the amount of currency in game is just rdiculous, you hve 1st order toekns 2nd etc energy credits skill points, BO points. And Star Trek is supposed to be about a future where money doesnt matter.
AS for the 1/4 of accounts not renewing after the first month, I agree as well, why should people pay for a game which doesnt seem to have much to do in it.
Well I got a lifetime membership so I;m stuck in it now, but I also believe that eventually the devs will give us most of the things we want, like walking through your own ship onboard missions etc. It may take 6 months to a year, but I can wait, afterall I can still play WoW while we wait for it.
some valid points, but not really deal breakers for me at this time. I want to see where it is in 6 months time..byt hen they should have a stronger grasp on the player base, issues such as PvP should be addressed more and quite possible open PvP areas. they can only expand from here and attempt to offer more detailed missions, and other aspects you have discussed.
ok - put the game on the shelf, ive dane that with several as well, but try it again in 6 months and see if you like it better then....
Ugh, I'm sick of hearing TRIBBLE about 'most mmos do this' 'most mmos do that', We're not on the forums.mostmmos.com Are me? No, this is for a specific game, and if people want to rant, let them. They have the right. I stay with people who pre-ordered the game, one for each of them, One collector's edition, one regular, both pre-ordered to get in the beta and the headstart, which doesn't seem like much of a headstart, seeing as how it was down 50% of the time. Cryptic released an unfinished game, and with the people who are new to mmos, the ones who are playing this because they loved star trek, this probably aggravates them quite a bit, so your 'most mmos' TRIBBLE is irrelevant.
So true. Look at Pre CU SWG --- now thats how Crpttic should have made plents in STO. Fully explorable worlds.
I played that game at launch. There was nothing much to do there too. "Fully explorable worlds" filled with nothing for miles and miles (yes, I did run from one "town" to the other), or random mobs floating in the air, or more nothing, or missing terrain, and more nothing.
I play few mmo games from everquest, swg, dnd, wow over the past few years the best one was swg before the nge killed it. I loved both the ground and space battles from that mmo. So what I see in this game is really sad. I just don't see reason they call it a mmo no real player interaction outside group few ships for missions you can't pick mission you want from list just told to go there. Then done back to next one no space port I seen sofar I can land on to walk around meet other gamers. And I didn't see anywhere that said I had to pay for cp to buy stuff with REAL CASH when I paid for the game. God that so greedy from this company. Just make it free to play then you pay for all that stuff like other are doing. I go back to wow wait for star wars old republic. Have fun guys at some point maybe the greedy company give the real mmo for you that stick with it.
All MMOs are mundane and repetitive.
This one has a Star Trek flavor.
There is grind in everything you do. Typing is a good example. I push letters and words come out.
Throughout your entire life, you are going to have to chop wood and carry water.
You can have fun doing it, or you can make it a chore.
It's your call.
Impatient? Isn't this a released game? Did I just pay 60 bucks for a game, that I find way to easy and all the above mentioned problems?
All this should have been resolved in beta. A beta I might add, you had to pre-order the game to get in. This game only shows just how suddenly developers release titles to get revenue going and then expect us to be patient and wait?
It's not just this game, it's a mass majority of mmo's these days. These companies are just spitting them out, if something hits awesome for them... if not, poor player base who has put time and effort into said game.
I've been around this long enough to spot a sinking ship if there's not a MASSIVE turn around being put in place, and a company addressing their player base needs.
I'd say 1/4 of their initial sales and subscriptions drop off before trial period ends. As the other players wait for fixes and updates, those will slowly drop off. Then after another year of trying to stay afloat they'll pull the server plug and apologize to all the loyal fans.
Yes, impatient... not in needing to wait for X and Y to be "fixed", but because based upon the descriptions that you have given, you must not have gotten very far in the game at all.
Why is there such a trend among the MMO circles of people that try a particular MMO for perhaps a week or so, don't get very far, then feel the need to rant and complain on a forum whipping up troll bait about why you're going to leave the game?
Impatient. And I love how people who play during early access, when the company is trying to gauge the influx of traffic from beta to release (and relieve some of that initial influx pressure in the process) can't manage to last a week or so without complaining that a game isn't finished.
I have some news for you. An MMO as a concept is never finished at release. That's the whole purpose of the MMO subscription... that they keep adding additional content, keep improving gameplay and evolving the game to a higher level, etc. If you aren't willing to stick around and be a part of that process, then perhaps you should give up the MMO concept as a whole alltogether, as that is exactly why you pay a subsciption. To stick around, and continue to see the game evolve.
Best of luck to you. I hope you find the type of game that you prefer to play. But if this is your level of patience, then for future reference, an MMO should probably not be included in your next game on the shopping list.
Impatient? Isn't this a released game? Did I just pay 60 bucks for a game, that I find way to easy and all the above mentioned problems?
All this should have been resolved in beta. A beta I might add, you had to pre-order the game to get in. This game only shows just how suddenly developers release titles to get revenue going and then expect us to be patient and wait?
THANK YOU!!
You echo the thoughts and feelings of a lot of us.
When I pay $60 for a product I expect it to be FINISHED! I don't care if it's a toaster or an MMO.
I am at the Admiral level which I made it there in no time of course. Everything looks the same, the combat is rather uninteresting. Once you make it to the level of RA the VERY VERY few quests or episodes as they are called are bugged. No real feeling of you making any progress towards going anywhere.
I will most likely be leaving as well and maybe check back after a few months and see if new end game content has been added. Also see if bugs have been worked out.
I just do not feel that pull I did in WoW to further invest time to get better at playing the game and get better loot. At the end there is just a feeling of hey there is nothing left. Keep exploring (the repeatable quests) or go run through lower level systems and pull huge groups of ships just to have a challenging fight. At the end though it means nothing. As I said it kind of leaves a feeling of I have done everything there is to do and where do I go from here. When playing WoW I always had the feeling that there was more to do and more to achieve.
I really do hope things change though and Cryptic gets this game lined out, but it is going to take a huge turn around. For the dedicated MMO player they have left too much to be desired and too little to do. Unfortunately I do not see the game making it in the long run and developing a following like WoW. I really do hope to be proven wrong because at first and in the Beta I was really enjoying myself. It saddens me to be let down after just over a week of play in an MMO and have this feeling.
if its so bad, why havent you left already? whining on the forums about leaving achieves what? attention for the troll
aside from supplying you more food, my point is: people that say they are leaving in a post on these forums, even including reasons why, are nothing but trolls and their opinions should be ignored.
i care not for your opinions or reasons on why you are leaving. you want to leave? fine, go. but don't say your going and then stick around watching your thread rubbing your hands in glee waiting to see how many people you can get to agree with your foolishness because you are that desperate for an ego trip.
between the ego trippers and the game haters theres way too many of these threads around. hurry up and go back to wow or w/e
between the ego trippers and the game haters theres way too many of these threads around.
Hmm lets look at this for a second.. Ego trippers and haters = lots of posts.... Wonder if this is supposed to tell me something...... I wonder if they TRUELY have something to complain about.... hmmmm
Hmm lets look at this for a second.. Ego trippers and haters = lots of posts.... Wonder if this is supposed to tell me something...... I wonder if they TRUELY have something to complain about.... hmmmm
no, because chances are good that 90% of players play, 10% post.
forums are always full of fanbois, trolls and the inbetween crowd. everyone else is playing the game. yes the game has issues, every single mmo out there has launched with issues. most of them launched without end game content. most launched without decent tradin/auction/crafting systems in place. the pvp systems were usually broken.
game developers always fail to take into account the "power" players, those that rush straight to the end as fast as possible, then sit around whining that there is nothing to do. but again small part of the community.
the fanbois will defend the game into the ground ignoring all the bugs and issues that can hurt your gameplay experience.
the guys in the middle shake their heads at both sides and really cant do much to sway either side into accepting another view on the situation.
yes there are issues with the game, thats a given. and yes people will always complain when something isnt going how they expect it to, or want it to. that is normal. but these threads are pointless.
if the guy was sticking around and hadhis post up saying "im sticking to this but..." thats different. as soon as you say "im going this game is bad because..." it becomes a waste of space. if you are going then go, your opinion doesnt need to be shared with the 10% of the playerbase on the forums, aside from stroking your ego.
"i paid money for this game and am going to throw it aside because it isnt perfect yet" good for you, go away
Now I could write a long list of reasons why Star Trek Online is a product that makes promises that it does not deliver on. There are plenty of other threads which will make the case for me. I will tell you after playing both Starfleet and Klingons that I don't like this product. The ground combat is frenetic, clunky, and not unlike the Star Trek game from the early 2000s. The space combat while interesting at first becomes boring as it is just a repetitive series of flying in circles and shooting, and not different from the previous Star Trek starship sim also sold in the early 2000s. For the sake of brevity, I am not going into all the detail that I could about the shortcomings of combat, the lack of real professions yielding an "economy" in name only that is neither real nor on its way to becoming vibrant, money and its irrelevancy, the linear nature of "questing" and lack of choosing ones path through a persistent game world, and the fact that this game is sold to the public as a Star Trek MMO which is not persistent but instanced at every turn. It is a lie to sell this as a Version 1 product when it is clearly a mish mash beta product.
Congrats Cryptic you got my 50 bucks. I'll be on my way.
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I think you're being a touch impatient.
Impatient? Isn't this a released game? Did I just pay 60 bucks for a game, that I find way to easy and all the above mentioned problems?
All this should have been resolved in beta. A beta I might add, you had to pre-order the game to get in. This game only shows just how suddenly developers release titles to get revenue going and then expect us to be patient and wait?
It's not just this game, it's a mass majority of mmo's these days. These companies are just spitting them out, if something hits awesome for them... if not, poor player base who has put time and effort into said game.
I've been around this long enough to spot a sinking ship if there's not a MASSIVE turn around being put in place, and a company addressing their player base needs.
I'd say 1/4 of their initial sales and subscriptions drop off before trial period ends. As the other players wait for fixes and updates, those will slowly drop off. Then after another year of trying to stay afloat they'll pull the server plug and apologize to all the loyal fans.
Just another ragequit thread. Yawn.
I'm not rage'n at all, it's just the facts. I wish the game all the best. I'll just out it on my shelf with other titles not worth the retail cost.
I love it its just strafleet command in miltiplayer I LOVE it!!
So true. Look at Pre CU SWG --- now thats how Crpttic should have made plents in STO. Fully explorable worlds.
AS for the 1/4 of accounts not renewing after the first month, I agree as well, why should people pay for a game which doesnt seem to have much to do in it.
Well I got a lifetime membership so I;m stuck in it now, but I also believe that eventually the devs will give us most of the things we want, like walking through your own ship onboard missions etc. It may take 6 months to a year, but I can wait, afterall I can still play WoW while we wait for it.
ok - put the game on the shelf, ive dane that with several as well, but try it again in 6 months and see if you like it better then....
peace out.
I played that game at launch. There was nothing much to do there too. "Fully explorable worlds" filled with nothing for miles and miles (yes, I did run from one "town" to the other), or random mobs floating in the air, or more nothing, or missing terrain, and more nothing.
You mean no content.. other than random lair spawns?
This one has a Star Trek flavor.
There is grind in everything you do. Typing is a good example. I push letters and words come out.
Throughout your entire life, you are going to have to chop wood and carry water.
You can have fun doing it, or you can make it a chore.
It's your call.
Yes, impatient... not in needing to wait for X and Y to be "fixed", but because based upon the descriptions that you have given, you must not have gotten very far in the game at all.
Why is there such a trend among the MMO circles of people that try a particular MMO for perhaps a week or so, don't get very far, then feel the need to rant and complain on a forum whipping up troll bait about why you're going to leave the game?
Impatient. And I love how people who play during early access, when the company is trying to gauge the influx of traffic from beta to release (and relieve some of that initial influx pressure in the process) can't manage to last a week or so without complaining that a game isn't finished.
I have some news for you. An MMO as a concept is never finished at release. That's the whole purpose of the MMO subscription... that they keep adding additional content, keep improving gameplay and evolving the game to a higher level, etc. If you aren't willing to stick around and be a part of that process, then perhaps you should give up the MMO concept as a whole alltogether, as that is exactly why you pay a subsciption. To stick around, and continue to see the game evolve.
Best of luck to you. I hope you find the type of game that you prefer to play. But if this is your level of patience, then for future reference, an MMO should probably not be included in your next game on the shopping list.
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THANK YOU!!
You echo the thoughts and feelings of a lot of us.
When I pay $60 for a product I expect it to be FINISHED! I don't care if it's a toaster or an MMO.
I will most likely be leaving as well and maybe check back after a few months and see if new end game content has been added. Also see if bugs have been worked out.
I just do not feel that pull I did in WoW to further invest time to get better at playing the game and get better loot. At the end there is just a feeling of hey there is nothing left. Keep exploring (the repeatable quests) or go run through lower level systems and pull huge groups of ships just to have a challenging fight. At the end though it means nothing. As I said it kind of leaves a feeling of I have done everything there is to do and where do I go from here. When playing WoW I always had the feeling that there was more to do and more to achieve.
I really do hope things change though and Cryptic gets this game lined out, but it is going to take a huge turn around. For the dedicated MMO player they have left too much to be desired and too little to do. Unfortunately I do not see the game making it in the long run and developing a following like WoW. I really do hope to be proven wrong because at first and in the Beta I was really enjoying myself. It saddens me to be let down after just over a week of play in an MMO and have this feeling.
aside from supplying you more food, my point is: people that say they are leaving in a post on these forums, even including reasons why, are nothing but trolls and their opinions should be ignored.
i care not for your opinions or reasons on why you are leaving. you want to leave? fine, go. but don't say your going and then stick around watching your thread rubbing your hands in glee waiting to see how many people you can get to agree with your foolishness because you are that desperate for an ego trip.
between the ego trippers and the game haters theres way too many of these threads around. hurry up and go back to wow or w/e
Hmm lets look at this for a second.. Ego trippers and haters = lots of posts.... Wonder if this is supposed to tell me something...... I wonder if they TRUELY have something to complain about.... hmmmm
By uncompleted I mean level cap was dropped from 50 to 45 and content after 41 is no where to be found.
Huge lack of content for klingons.
No fleet actions after Crystalline.
The fact that there are more Star fleet then Klingons due to not bein able to start off the bat as a klingon.
Complete lack of quality immersion.
Just a few things off the top of my head.
I myself would like ST to succeed but not as a cookie cutter MMO.
no, because chances are good that 90% of players play, 10% post.
forums are always full of fanbois, trolls and the inbetween crowd. everyone else is playing the game. yes the game has issues, every single mmo out there has launched with issues. most of them launched without end game content. most launched without decent tradin/auction/crafting systems in place. the pvp systems were usually broken.
game developers always fail to take into account the "power" players, those that rush straight to the end as fast as possible, then sit around whining that there is nothing to do. but again small part of the community.
the fanbois will defend the game into the ground ignoring all the bugs and issues that can hurt your gameplay experience.
the guys in the middle shake their heads at both sides and really cant do much to sway either side into accepting another view on the situation.
yes there are issues with the game, thats a given. and yes people will always complain when something isnt going how they expect it to, or want it to. that is normal. but these threads are pointless.
if the guy was sticking around and hadhis post up saying "im sticking to this but..." thats different. as soon as you say "im going this game is bad because..." it becomes a waste of space. if you are going then go, your opinion doesnt need to be shared with the 10% of the playerbase on the forums, aside from stroking your ego.
"i paid money for this game and am going to throw it aside because it isnt perfect yet" good for you, go away
Congrats Cryptic you got my 50 bucks. I'll be on my way.