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Am I the only person who sells stuff for a fair price?

SystemSystem Member, NoReporting Posts: 178,019 Arc User
edited February 2010 in The Academy
I was just looking over the exchange - 60,000 for an item with a value of 2,162. Honestly? Who else thinks it would be a good idea to add a Max price limiter of say... 10,000 above the value.

So...thoughts?
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    your not the only one that sells at fair prices, but we are few and far between....i think some people dont realize that you can see the base value of an item that is on the exchange before you buy it.

    But then some people are also stupid and will gladly buy the items at super inflated values.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Rule of Aquisition 141: Only fools pay retail
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    As a business owner i live by this, and it holds true.

    Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it.
    -Publilius Syrus

    if i sell quantum torps for $300,000 and somone pays it, then thats what its worth. It really doesn't matter what the item window tells you. When you sell an item to an NPC they only give you half, even though the item "Says" it's worth more. I might be wrong though.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Welcome to the free market. Enjoy your stay.


    This:

    As a business owner i live by this, and it holds true.

    Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it.
    -Publilius Syrus

    if i sell quantum torps for $300,000 and somone pays it, then thats what its worth. It really doesn't matter what the item window tells you. When you sell an item to an NPC they only give you half, even though the item "Says" it's worth more. I might be wrong though.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Like life, the game has a large number of greedy morons.

    :D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Honestly, it'll be like this until the supply meets the demand. Anytime there's a public setting that encourages supply & demand, and economy will form. Ours just needs some time to settle down. There's only a few people selling goods & while that holds true, they'll get away with rediculous prices. As long as people are dumb enough to pay those prices, they'll get away with those prices.

    Moral of the story? Don't buy it.

    But, it'll get better over time (unless there're more stupid people out t here paying stupid prices; then we're screwed).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Malakite wrote: »
    Honestly, it'll be like this until the supply meets the demand. Anytime there's a public setting that encourages supply & demand, and economy will form. Ours just needs some time to settle down. There's only a few people selling goods & while that holds true, they'll get away with rediculous prices. As long as people are dumb enough to pay those prices, they'll get away with those prices.

    Moral of the story? Don't buy it.

    But, it'll get better over time (unless there're more stupid people out t here paying stupid prices; then we're screwed).

    Exactly what I was going to say. I've already noticed some of the lower ranked weapons aren't so outrageously priced anymore.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Yeah be patient - if they can't move their merchandise the prices will eventually come down
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I also try to sell things for just above what a vendor may give me for it -- or if its an extremely hard-to-get item, i may inflate the price a bit more than usual. This is how economy should work. Supply vs. Demand, competitive pricing, etc. :)

    I hope that I have alleviated your apparent lack of faith in the exchange as a whole. I tend to ignore the over-pricers and just mind my own when listing stuff. Lower prices will sell, the ripoffs won't (atleast, not often).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The game just started, so it will be a bit before the economy normalizes. Once more people get access to materials more frequently, the price will drop. That said, I would love it if the exchange allowed me to sort by price and "exact name"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    The prices will come down, and many items already have reached normal prices. Like cannons. Rare and very rare items will always be premium price, or at least a lot higher than they stated value. EPS's will remain expensive too, as they are so far rare drops.

    I sell white items for 0-20% more than their stated value. Green items for 0-30% their value. Blue items, especially beam weapons, can sell for 50-95k easily.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Oh. does this happen at the launch of most MMO's then? This is my first one.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Oh. does this happen at the launch of most MMO's then? This is my first one.
    It also carries on in most MMOs for eternity if money is too easy to obtain at higher levels.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I was just looking over the exchange - 60,000 for an item with a value of 2,162. Honestly? Who else thinks it would be a good idea to add a Max price limiter of say... 10,000 above the value.

    So...thoughts?

    I stay well away from the EX atm, till the prices level out.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I also try to sell things for just above what a vendor may give me for it -- or if its an extremely hard-to-get item, i may inflate the price a bit more than usual.

    Except there are no hard to get items. All the rares and uniques are spooned out at the end of most missions. There is nothing that is a one of a kind item and without a more useful crafting mechanic there is no way to create them.

    Everyone is selling above the regular value is literally an idiot. Not only for listing a stupid price but also for clogging up the Exchange with the other idiots. What they are selling is as common as it gets. By the time anyone acquires the credits necessary they have probably already been through the missions that dropped the loot to begin with.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    supply and demand.

    as long as credits are so easy to get. prices will only riseand not fall. but then again lt. / lt.com / commander items are so easily farmable by high level players that its an insult to the players playing this game
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Itanius wrote: »
    It also carries on in most MMOs for eternity if money is too easy to obtain at higher levels.

    This is true, The only MMO with steady / Fair prices is EVE and I have played a lot of them
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    There will always be to high amount on certain objects as all other MMOPRG. Hopefully STO won't be destroyed by the goldsellers as WoW has been in the last years.

    The price will go down if people see that they don't get their things sold.
    In the end its all about money and if you can't sell it on that kind of high scale, they will lower their price till they get a buyer.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    There should be an option to select the max price you would be willing to paying. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Valleriani wrote: »
    There should be an option to select the max price you would be willing to paying. :)

    No, and you know why? Because that would make it easier for those that buy items cheap and resell them expensively. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    you guys do realize by selling stuff a a ridiculous rates your actually supporting the gold farmers in the game????
    in mmo's 99.9% of the time it is the gold farmers that starts selling stuff to purposely inflate a games economy. making hard for an average player buy buy items at reasonable prices so one would feel the only way they can buy stuff is to purchase gold/credits from them for real money. so by the player base selling stuff at mo reasonable rates like a little bit above what you get from the replicator but with in reason that people that the level is for can afford it. will in fact help fight against the gold farmers as then people wont feel the need to buy from them and the game economy isn't inflated like the gold farmers wanted and they make less rl money and if a game is not profitable for them they will leave.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I currently sell all my items on the exchange by rounding down to the nearest row of zeroes :P
    Just to **** on the currency farmers attempts to mess with the economy.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    You research the lowest current price of whatever it is you are selling or are about to sell and post a slightly lower price.

    With time the economy will stabilize.

    The admin should add a 10% commission charge to every transaction because money is coming into the economy and going nowhere, thus creating EXTREME inflation.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Some evil beings that find it fair to cheat others may have developed a way to scan and buy up low cost items reposting for high profits draining your wallet so you may buy the credits that you use to have back from them for good ole real life currency.

    It happens in WoW, Eve, DAOC, EQ and every other game I can think of and Cryptic has cerntinally not shown any interest in getting ahead of the economy griefers. It can only get worse.

    Best advice is to not buy anything from the exchange. Only sell at whatever price you feel is fair. Let the gold farmers compete against each other and if you need something farm it or ask around for a personal trade.

    For too long MMO companies have aloud this filth to continue, and in some cases supported it. It is up to the community to get rid of them. If you dont buy gold they wont sell it. So far it seems that credits are easy enough to come by and knowing Cryptic they will probably start selling them anyway. Hell if they are half as greedy as some anti-fanbois claim they may be inflating the market themselves :)

    Seriously all you can do is avoid feeding the farmers and hope that time and Cryptic can sort them out.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I normally round down when I'm putting something on the exchange.

    If its worth 1200 I would sell for 1000.

    Its more than you would get from an NPC so why be gready :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I have only put a few items on the exchange but have put it up for a cost under the value amount, mainly because i found them while doing missions, But i have saw some items on the exchange being sold for thousands even when you get these items on your ship for free and only have a small value
    I think there should be a limit on how much profit the seller can make
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    One thing I try to do is check with my friends to see if they've picked up items they don't want and try and trade something I've picked up of equal value or something they can use. More of a barter system and keeps me from hitting the exchange until things level off.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    hobieone wrote:
    you guys do realize by selling stuff a a ridiculous rates your actually supporting the gold farmers in the game????
    in mmo's 99.9% of the time it is the gold farmers that starts selling stuff to purposely inflate a games economy. making hard for an average player buy buy items at reasonable prices so one would feel the only way they can buy stuff is to purchase gold/credits from them for real money. so by the player base selling stuff at mo reasonable rates like a little bit above what you get from the replicator but with in reason that people that the level is for can afford it. will in fact help fight against the gold farmers as then people wont feel the need to buy from them and the game economy isn't inflated like the gold farmers wanted and they make less rl money and if a game is not profitable for them they will leave.

    this is exactly what I was going to say.....

    if you make the prices excessively high...all you are doing is supporting the gold farmers...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I generally post things at a fair price. I can't believe people are selling mk iii phaser arrays for 100k.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I generally post things at a fair price. I can't believe people are selling mk iii phaser arrays for 100k.

    Agreed.

    I tend to look up what I'm selling, see the market price, and set mine at most at half of that, or the retail value.

    I undercut the price inflated items and I still make a tidy profit, so while it may not be a 'fair' price it's still a good price.
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