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VII. Limitation of Liability

YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES ARE NOT LIABLE FOR ANY ACT OR FAILURE TO ACT BY THEM OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING CONDUCT, COMMUNICATION OR CONTENT ON THE SERVICES OR USE OF THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS SITES, SERVICES OR SOFTWARE. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CRYPTIC STUDIOS IS TO STOP USING THE SERVICE, AND TO CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT(S). IN NO CASE SHALL THE LIABILITY OF THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES TO YOU EXCEED THE AMOUNT THAT YOU PAID TO CRYPTIC STUDIOS OR ITS DESIGNEES DURING THE PRIOR ONE (1) MONTH PERIOD FOR THE APPLICABLE SERVICES GIVING RISE TO ANY SUCH LIABILITY. IN NO CASE SHALL THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, INDIRECT, PUNITIVE OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING FROM YOUR USE OF THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS SITES, SERVICES AND SOFTWARE, THE INTERNET OR FOR ANY OTHER CLAIM RELATED IN ANY WAY TO YOUR USE OF THE SERVICES OR INTERACTIONS WITH CRYPTIC STUDIOS. BECAUSE SOME STATES OR JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR THE LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL DAMAGES, IN SUCH STATES OR JURISDICTIONS, THE LIABILITY OF CRYPTIC STUDIOS AND THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW. CRYPTIC STUDIOS DOES NOT ENDORSE, WARRANT OR GUARANTEE ANY THIRD-PARTY PRODUCT OR SERVICE OFFERED THROUGH THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS SITES AND WILL NOT BE A PARTY TO OR IN ANY WAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING ANY TRANSACTION BETWEEN YOU AND THIRD-PARTY PROVIDERS OF PRODUCTS OR SERVICES.

All MMOs are like this and I quote "...YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CRYPTIC STUDIOS IS TO STOP USING THE SERVICE, AND TO CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT(S)..."
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    My Eyes Hurt!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I am not reading that.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Sorry, I can't read that without eyedrops since I've stopped QQing.

    Maybe if I had some tears, my eyes wouldn't burn as they do, but oh well, what can you do... Back to complaining!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Probably the best post anywhere on this forum.

    +1
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    And now we know why no one every reads the TOS: GIANT WALLS OF TEXT ALL IN CAPS.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    While it's a crude block of text, OP is correct.

    You all agreed to this in the Eula. So ***** all you like, but when you clicked the "I accept" on the Eula, you basically agreed to let Cryptic do this :)

    Either way, it's just a game... I don't let it get me upset.. I go do something else and come back either a few hours later or a day later.

    Tis just a game.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Very well put
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Sorry for the caps, but this information is available here http://www.startrekonline.com/terms_of_service and was copied as is.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    VII. Limitation of Liability

    YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES ARE NOT LIABLE FOR ANY ACT OR FAILURE TO ACT BY THEM OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING CONDUCT, COMMUNICATION OR CONTENT ON THE SERVICES OR USE OF THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS SITES, SERVICES OR SOFTWARE. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CRYPTIC STUDIOS IS TO STOP USING THE SERVICE, AND TO CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT(S). IN NO CASE SHALL THE LIABILITY OF THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES TO YOU EXCEED THE AMOUNT THAT YOU PAID TO CRYPTIC STUDIOS OR ITS DESIGNEES DURING THE PRIOR ONE (1) MONTH PERIOD FOR THE APPLICABLE SERVICES GIVING RISE TO ANY SUCH LIABILITY. IN NO CASE SHALL THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, INDIRECT, PUNITIVE OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING FROM YOUR USE OF THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS SITES, SERVICES AND SOFTWARE, THE INTERNET OR FOR ANY OTHER CLAIM RELATED IN ANY WAY TO YOUR USE OF THE SERVICES OR INTERACTIONS WITH CRYPTIC STUDIOS. BECAUSE SOME STATES OR JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR THE LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL DAMAGES, IN SUCH STATES OR JURISDICTIONS, THE LIABILITY OF CRYPTIC STUDIOS AND THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW. CRYPTIC STUDIOS DOES NOT ENDORSE, WARRANT OR GUARANTEE ANY THIRD-PARTY PRODUCT OR SERVICE OFFERED THROUGH THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS SITES AND WILL NOT BE A PARTY TO OR IN ANY WAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING ANY TRANSACTION BETWEEN YOU AND THIRD-PARTY PROVIDERS OF PRODUCTS OR SERVICES.

    All MMOs are like this and I quote "...YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CRYPTIC STUDIOS IS TO STOP USING THE SERVICE, AND TO CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT(S)..."



    NOW ya tell me...:cool:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    *Bit*h slaps Peter Robinson*
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Peter_Robinson, you are my hero.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Arhg, watch tribbles instead:

    Tribble Dance
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    All MMOs are like this and I quote "...YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CRYPTIC STUDIOS IS TO STOP USING THE SERVICE, AND TO CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT(S)..."

    Why did the MMO gods make forums then? Ha!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I prefer section 7, which basically indemnifies Cryptic of any liability if the game is delayed due to nuclear war.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    VII. Limitation of Liability

    YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES ARE NOT LIABLE FOR ANY ACT OR FAILURE TO ACT BY THEM OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING CONDUCT, COMMUNICATION OR CONTENT ON THE SERVICES OR USE OF THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS SITES, SERVICES OR SOFTWARE. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CRYPTIC STUDIOS IS TO STOP USING THE SERVICE, AND TO CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT(S). IN NO CASE SHALL THE LIABILITY OF THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES TO YOU EXCEED THE AMOUNT THAT YOU PAID TO CRYPTIC STUDIOS OR ITS DESIGNEES DURING THE PRIOR ONE (1) MONTH PERIOD FOR THE APPLICABLE SERVICES GIVING RISE TO ANY SUCH LIABILITY. IN NO CASE SHALL THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, INDIRECT, PUNITIVE OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING FROM YOUR USE OF THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS SITES, SERVICES AND SOFTWARE, THE INTERNET OR FOR ANY OTHER CLAIM RELATED IN ANY WAY TO YOUR USE OF THE SERVICES OR INTERACTIONS WITH CRYPTIC STUDIOS. BECAUSE SOME STATES OR JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR THE LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL DAMAGES, IN SUCH STATES OR JURISDICTIONS, THE LIABILITY OF CRYPTIC STUDIOS AND THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW. CRYPTIC STUDIOS DOES NOT ENDORSE, WARRANT OR GUARANTEE ANY THIRD-PARTY PRODUCT OR SERVICE OFFERED THROUGH THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS SITES AND WILL NOT BE A PARTY TO OR IN ANY WAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING ANY TRANSACTION BETWEEN YOU AND THIRD-PARTY PROVIDERS OF PRODUCTS OR SERVICES.

    All MMOs are like this and I quote "...YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CRYPTIC STUDIOS IS TO STOP USING THE SERVICE, AND TO CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT(S)..."

    I so agree. Meditate, smoke out, pray, whatever you need to do, just stop whinning.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Honestly I dodnt remember seeing a eula... ever. Im not saying that there wasnt one, Im just saying I dont remember seeing it pop up. O.o
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I don't mind things like that, but I have a belief that all rules work both ways, shrug.

    And I think they are doing a good job, and making the game better every day.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    A decent lawyer can cut through that technobable fast
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I would if we had More Pew Pew
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Any one with any sense should agree that the forums are the place to bring your wishes, grievances, desires, erks, annoyances, or any other feeling that you choose to expound in relation to the game.

    Reading the riot act is meaningless. Let the people speak!

    And remember: if you really, really hate a company, give them no warning or feedback before you quit using their services, and bad-mouth them to friends and family.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    VII. Limitation of Liability

    YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES ARE NOT LIABLE FOR ANY ACT OR FAILURE TO ACT BY THEM OR ANY OTHER PERSON REGARDING CONDUCT, COMMUNICATION OR CONTENT ON THE SERVICES OR USE OF THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS SITES, SERVICES OR SOFTWARE. YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CRYPTIC STUDIOS IS TO STOP USING THE SERVICE, AND TO CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT(S). IN NO CASE SHALL THE LIABILITY OF THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES TO YOU EXCEED THE AMOUNT THAT YOU PAID TO CRYPTIC STUDIOS OR ITS DESIGNEES DURING THE PRIOR ONE (1) MONTH PERIOD FOR THE APPLICABLE SERVICES GIVING RISE TO ANY SUCH LIABILITY. IN NO CASE SHALL THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES BE LIABLE FOR ANY SPECIAL, INCIDENTAL, INDIRECT, PUNITIVE OR CONSEQUENTIAL DAMAGES ARISING FROM YOUR USE OF THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS SITES, SERVICES AND SOFTWARE, THE INTERNET OR FOR ANY OTHER CLAIM RELATED IN ANY WAY TO YOUR USE OF THE SERVICES OR INTERACTIONS WITH CRYPTIC STUDIOS. BECAUSE SOME STATES OR JURISDICTIONS DO NOT ALLOW THE EXCLUSION OR THE LIMITATION OF LIABILITY FOR CONSEQUENTIAL OR INCIDENTAL DAMAGES, IN SUCH STATES OR JURISDICTIONS, THE LIABILITY OF CRYPTIC STUDIOS AND THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS PARTIES SHALL BE LIMITED TO THE FULLEST EXTENT PERMITTED BY LAW. CRYPTIC STUDIOS DOES NOT ENDORSE, WARRANT OR GUARANTEE ANY THIRD-PARTY PRODUCT OR SERVICE OFFERED THROUGH THE CRYPTIC STUDIOS SITES AND WILL NOT BE A PARTY TO OR IN ANY WAY BE RESPONSIBLE FOR MONITORING ANY TRANSACTION BETWEEN YOU AND THIRD-PARTY PROVIDERS OF PRODUCTS OR SERVICES.

    All MMOs are like this and I quote "...YOU ACKNOWLEDGE AND AGREE THAT YOUR SOLE AND EXCLUSIVE REMEDY FOR ANY DISPUTE WITH CRYPTIC STUDIOS IS TO STOP USING THE SERVICE, AND TO CANCEL YOUR ACCOUNT(S)..."

    Lawyer dribble WINS AGAIN! Thank you so much for posting this!

    Notice the Red. Yea. Hope that doesnt happen. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Bah, less pewpew more QQ!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Stop QQing

    You first.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    OP: since you put "seriously" in the subject line, I figured I simply MUST read your post. Then I saw the huge block of OHMYGAWDALLCAPSCRAP and thought, OHMYGAWDYOUARESUCHADOUCHBAG-SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Class Action! Lets roll! Whos with me!

    /s :-p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Aisling wrote:
    Honestly I dodnt remember seeing a eula... ever. Im not saying that there wasnt one, Im just saying I dont remember seeing it pop up. O.o

    When you enter a code on the website you have to tick an I accept t.o.s. box from memory.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Azimov wrote: »
    When you enter a code on the website you have to tick an I accept t.o.s. box from memory.

    Ah right... thats why... it was just a little line and a box. Not an actual listed tos (just a link I think).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    "QQ" directly means "Quit Crying," your subject makes no sense. It doesn't stand for "Crying." See here for my "QQ 101" class.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    "QQ" directly means "Quit Crying," your subject makes no sense. It doesn't stand for "Crying." See here for my "QQ 101" class.

    Regardless what it stands for, the message is getting across :) And besides, this is an mmo, it ain't sunday school.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Stever wrote: »
    OP: since you put "seriously" in the subject line, I figured I simply MUST read your post. Then I saw the huge block of OHMYGAWDALLCAPSCRAP and thought, OHMYGAWDYOUARESUCHADOUCHBAG-SERIOUSLY!!!!!!!

    I'm sorry if you need to cry like the rest of them, but that is exactly how it is written in the terms of service. I am not going to re-type everything in small letters for your enjoyment, grow a pair.
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