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Hello all.
Can anyone please confirm that a fleet bank tab does cost 1 million E C or is this a bug.
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    1.2 mil by my count and no it isn't a glitch.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Xbwalker wrote: »
    1.2 mil by my count and no it isn't a glitch.

    This is untrue. Someone went into IRC and contacted a rep from Cryptic who said that in fact, the 1.2 million pricetag is being looked at and coming down. I'd love a Dev confirmation here and when we're looking at the change. I don't want to spend 1.2 million if right afterwards the price comes down to where a few tabs total cost 1.2.

    So Dev's... any comment?! This is an absurd problem for fleets (like the uniform problem was).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    i dont see how 1.2mil is that bad

    its so easy to get credits

    ANY 2 people by the time they reach level 30 should have enough combined to buy this
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Like I said. It is not a glitch. Everyone has it. It may be a design flaw depending on your perspective but it is not a glitch.

    besides, 1.2 mil isn't that bad. A 10 man Captain fleet could pay for that easily.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    thevedis wrote: »
    i dont see how 1.2mil is that bad

    its so easy to get credits

    ANY 2 people by the time they reach level 30 should have enough combined to buy this

    We're fleets... fleets aren't supposed to be made up of just level 30's and above. New players need to be able to come in and get access to the tabs and get new gear. We have over 80 members (over 90 possibly now I haven't counted in a while), but only about 5-10% are Captain and above. The same people have contributed a lot and continue to and it's a bit of burden on the same guys.

    The tabs before were outrageously cheap. I'm not proposing that... but instead something like:

    100k - 200k - 400k - 800k - 1.6mil - 3.2mil - 6.4mil

    It might be more than 1.2 mil each... but as I increase and the members of my fleet, we wouldn't notice the end increases. But we could fund the first 4 extra tabs with little trouble.
    Xbwalker wrote: »
    Like I said. It is not a glitch. Everyone has it. It may be a design flaw depending on your perspective but it is not a glitch.

    besides, 1.2 mil isn't that bad. A 10 man Captain fleet could pay for that easily.

    Your logic is flawed... the powerhue was a "bug" and is in the exact same boat as this. As for your opinion on the price... that's not the issue. The issue is it's too high by most standards. We're not gold farmers and I don't expect my guys to be doing that constantly to get 12 million credits.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    hehe yes argue your point on the forum. Nobody cares especially Cryptic. I will be in game with my easily purchased fleet tabs playing instead of trolling.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    We're fleets... fleets aren't supposed to be made up of just level 30's and above. New players need to be able to come in and get access to the tabs and get new gear. We have over 80 members (over 90 possibly now I haven't counted in a while), but only about 5-10% are Captain and above. The same people have contributed a lot and continue to and it's a bit of burden on the same guys.

    The tabs before were outrageously cheap. I'm not proposing that... but instead something like:

    100k - 200k - 400k - 800k - 1.6mil - 3.2mil - 6.4mil

    It might be more than 1.2 mil each... but as I increase and the members of my fleet, we wouldn't notice the end increases. But we could fund the first 4 extra tabs with little trouble.



    Your logic is flawed... the powerhue was a "bug" and is in the exact same boat as this. As for your opinion on the price... that's not the issue. The issue is it's too high by most standards. We're not gold farmers and I don't expect my guys to be doing that constantly to get 12 million credits.

    ok so your a fleet

    my example was for 2, count them, 2 players
    not a whole fleet

    now you can pool the resources of your entire fleet to make that much, just imagine how much youd each have to contribute, 80 members, its not that much

    15k energy each, or is that too much?


    fleet bank, remember, not personal bank we are talking about here

    and if people dont wanna put any money forth, thats a personal problem not a game problem
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    thevedis wrote: »
    ok so your a fleet

    my example was for 2, count them, 2 players
    not a whole fleet

    now you can pool the resources of your entire fleet to make that much, just imagine how much youd each have to contribute, 80 members, its not that much

    15k energy each, or is that too much?


    fleet bank, remember, not personal bank we are talking about here

    and if people dont wanna put any money forth, thats a personal problem not a game problem

    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Xbwalker wrote: »
    hehe yes argue your point on the forum. Nobody cares especially Cryptic. I will be in game with my easily purchased fleet tabs playing instead of trolling.

    WTF are you talking about? 1.2 million for another tab in an inventory screen is exorbitant. That isn't trolling, it's an opinion. I am only at Lt Cmdr 7 and I have 110,000 credits, but I'll be damned if my small fleet is going to empty their pockets for something so trivial.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Hanzo wrote: »
    WTF are you talking about? 1.2 million for another tab in an inventory screen is exorbitant. That isn't trolling, it's an opinion. I am only at Lt Cmdr 7 and I have 110,000 credits, but I'll be damned if my small fleet is going to empty their pockets for something so trivial.

    Then don't. It's trivial.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Hanzo wrote: »
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea.

    im not the one who stated it that way

    though it does seem that some people do want handouts

    im sorry that people feel 1.2mil is alot, it sounds like alot, but in truth, its actualy VERY VERY little for a fleet

    again i say, i have 800k credits, and i JUST hit 31(captain) and thats after buying stuff with credits too and vendoring off stuff i dont need
    and thats with pvp....you know that place where i get no extra drops to sell

    i think whats happening here is people think it is their personal responsibility to pay for entire fleet upgrades by themselves, and thus the prices should be reasonable for single players
    this is not the case
    its a fleet bank
    the fleet should pay for it
    the price should therefore be cheap when split, but expensive for any 1 person
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Very brave of you to say something like this over the internet. Say it in a room full of people you don't know. I didn't so.

    Xbwalker wrote: »
    This post has been edited to remove content which violates the Cryptic Studios Forum Usage Guidelines ~Dionaea.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Hanzo wrote: »
    WTF are you talking about? 1.2 million for another tab in an inventory screen is exorbitant. That isn't trolling, it's an opinion. I am only at Lt Cmdr 7 and I have 110,000 credits, but I'll be damned if my small fleet is going to empty their pockets for something so trivial.

    110 at 17 is good
    so 12 of you could buy it....if you split it

    but in 10 levels, youll have closer to 500k EACH, and then it wont look like nearly as much, youll see


    remember, low level players arent supposed to have everything handed to them or access to everything right away


    also if your fleet is small, you dont need as much bank space(by comparison) to the larger fleets, so it should cost you more as a "team" sinse prices should never scale to the ammount of players
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    thevedis wrote: »
    im not the one who stated it that way

    though it does seem that some people do want handouts

    im sorry that people feel 1.2mil is alot, it sounds like alot, but in truth, its actualy VERY VERY little for a fleet

    again i say, i have 800k credits, and i JUST hit 31(captain) and thats after buying stuff with credits too and vendoring off stuff i dont need
    and thats with pvp....you know that place where i get no extra drops to sell

    i think whats happening here is people think it is their personal responsibility to pay for entire fleet upgrades by themselves, and thus the prices should be reasonable for single players
    this is not the case
    its a fleet bank
    the fleet should pay for it
    the price should therefore be cheap when split, but expensive for any 1 person

    Speaking of which, if you guys are having money issues, just go PvP. Yes you will probably lose msot times to the Klingons but each round pays over 2k energy credits.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    thevedis wrote: »
    im not the one who stated it that way

    though it does seem that some people do want handouts

    im sorry that people feel 1.2mil is alot, it sounds like alot, but in truth, its actualy VERY VERY little for a fleet

    again i say, i have 800k credits, and i JUST hit 31(captain) and thats after buying stuff with credits too and vendoring off stuff i dont need
    and thats with pvp....you know that place where i get no extra drops to sell

    i think whats happening here is people think it is their personal responsibility to pay for entire fleet upgrades by themselves, and thus the prices should be reasonable for single players
    this is not the case
    its a fleet bank
    the fleet should pay for it
    the price should therefore be cheap when split, but expensive for any 1 person

    I am all for a civil discussion but being told I am on Welfare IRL because my six person Fleet with no one about Lt Cmdr can't afford a tab is pretty inflammatory. I would be all for each tab getting exponentially more expensive but to start the price is too high IMO.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Xbwalker wrote: »
    Speaking of which, if you guys are having money issues, just go PvP. Yes you will probably lose msot times to the Klingons but each round pays over 2k energy credits.

    at rank 2 its 2k, at rank 3, you get 5k credits per, havent paid attention to what rank 4 gives yet
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    thevedis wrote: »
    at rank 2 its 2k, at rank 3, you get 5k credits per, havent paid attention to what rank 4 gives yet

    Suppose I haven't either. Nice.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    1.2 million is far too high for a first tab no matter how many people you have in a fleet. I also agree that an incremental value would work well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    thevedis wrote: »
    110 at 17 is good
    so 12 of you could buy it....if you split it

    but in 10 levels, youll have closer to 500k EACH, and then it wont look like nearly as much, youll see


    remember, low level players arent supposed to have everything handed to them or access to everything right away


    also if your fleet is small, you dont need as much bank space(by comparison) to the larger fleets, so it should cost you more as a "team" sinse prices should never scale to the ammount of players

    You're failing to see the point and I highly doubt any of you have managed to get all of the tabs no matter how much you talk here (I'll just assume you're lying). The fact is, banks are meant to support NEW members now, not weeks from now when everyone who has lives and don't play 24/7 can use it.

    That's like saying a MK IV item costs 1.2 million but at tier 5 you could have enough to get it. At tier 5, it's no longer needed since you've managed to live without it and have grown beyond it. So your logic is flawed and invalid.

    The fact is, and let's go off of fact and not opinions... the price for the tabs were too low during beta and now are too high. The fact is a rep stated that they intend to change it. So what will it be changed to? My solution costs more in the long term but is easily managed by a fleet of 10-250 members.

    I think it's funny how the trolls in this forum (General Discussion) can get so uppity... and start slinging threats (I regret that I missed what was said before it was deleted by the mods). But yet a discussion here can go on being civilized and rational with no disruptions. Just goes to show you what you're dealing with in this part of the forums.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    You're failing to see the point and I highly doubt any of you have managed to get all of the tabs no matter how much you talk here (I'll just assume you're lying). The fact is, banks are meant to support NEW members now, not weeks from now when everyone who has lives and don't play 24/7 can use it.

    That's like saying a MK IV item costs 1.2 million but at tier 5 you could have enough to get it. At tier 5, it's no longer needed since you've managed to live without it and have grown beyond it. So your logic is flawed and invalid.

    The fact is, and let's go off of fact and not opinions... the price for the tabs were too low during beta and now are too high. The fact is a rep stated that they intend to change it. So what will it be changed to? My solution costs more in the long term but is easily managed by a fleet of 10-250 members.

    I think it's funny how the trolls in this forum (General Discussion) can get so uppity... and start slinging threats (I regret that I missed what was said before it was deleted by the mods). But yet a discussion here can go on being civilized and rational with no disruptions. Just goes to show you what you're dealing with in this part of the forums.

    your gear example doesnt work

    gear is for a PLAYER, not a FLEET

    FLEETS have more money then PLAYERS do

    your FLEET bank is not a PLAYER bank

    the cost to a single PLAYER in a fleet of 10, is 150k each, 100 PLAYERS, is 12k each, etc etc

    NEW PLAYERS shouldnt be able to just have everything all of a sudden

    hasnt anyone here ever had to work for anything? seriously, you cant have everything handed to you, and this is an example of that

    its not hard to get, you just have to work a bit to get it, and it is only a bit, not alot, and the more people you have the faster you can get it if they all pitch in



    also please learn the definition of a troll, i am far from one, i just disagree with YOU, and understand what the price represents, im not saying thwy shouldnt change it, im saying its fine as is
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Did any of us suggest that the tabs should be free and just given to us?

    Why can't the first tab be $500k, second tab $1M, third, $2M and so on?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Xbwalker wrote: »
    Speaking of which, if you guys are having money issues, just go PvP. Yes you will probably lose msot times to the Klingons but each round pays over 2k energy credits.

    I agree, PVP is a cash cow. As for losing to the Klingons... BUWHAHAHAH... all I see is DOMINATION. I guess it helps though that I am a blue klingon... a true asset to the Federation!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    I agree, PVP is a cash cow. As for losing to the Klingons... BUWHAHAHAH... all I see is DOMINATION. I guess it helps though that I am a blue klingon... a true asset to the Federation!

    i havent lost sinse i hit tier 4...


    btw you get 10,000 credits PER MATCH at tier 4....

    come on, thats 50k per match if you roll with a fleet, so itl take you all of 24 matches to buy a tab as a fleet.....(of 5 people)

    thats not that much really

    and lets not forget how fast you get cash in the chos nebula as a klingon, the drops there are worth a fortune and they come often
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    thevedis wrote: »
    your gear example doesnt work

    gear is for a PLAYER, not a FLEET

    Gear to a player is like a bank is to a fleet. It's exactly the same. Your bold words don't change the fact that you lack the logic in this discussion.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited February 2010
    Gear to a player is like a bank is to a fleet. It's exactly the same. Your bold words don't change the fact that you lack the logic in this discussion.

    yes, a bank is to a fleet, but resources are earned per player

    so stuff that costs 10k for a player, on a fleet level, should cost ALOT more

    hence 1.2mil

    imagine that you can buy a personal piece of gear for 100 merits
    what would you pay if everyone in the fleet got the piece.....think of it that way

    1000? id call that cheap for a permanent fleet piece of gear

    100k maybe? now people will complain even though its more then fair

    get my point
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