This is untrue. Someone went into IRC and contacted a rep from Cryptic who said that in fact, the 1.2 million pricetag is being looked at and coming down. I'd love a Dev confirmation here and when we're looking at the change. I don't want to spend 1.2 million if right afterwards the price comes down to where a few tabs total cost 1.2.
So Dev's... any comment?! This is an absurd problem for fleets (like the uniform problem was).
ANY 2 people by the time they reach level 30 should have enough combined to buy this
We're fleets... fleets aren't supposed to be made up of just level 30's and above. New players need to be able to come in and get access to the tabs and get new gear. We have over 80 members (over 90 possibly now I haven't counted in a while), but only about 5-10% are Captain and above. The same people have contributed a lot and continue to and it's a bit of burden on the same guys.
The tabs before were outrageously cheap. I'm not proposing that... but instead something like:
It might be more than 1.2 mil each... but as I increase and the members of my fleet, we wouldn't notice the end increases. But we could fund the first 4 extra tabs with little trouble.
Like I said. It is not a glitch. Everyone has it. It may be a design flaw depending on your perspective but it is not a glitch.
besides, 1.2 mil isn't that bad. A 10 man Captain fleet could pay for that easily.
Your logic is flawed... the powerhue was a "bug" and is in the exact same boat as this. As for your opinion on the price... that's not the issue. The issue is it's too high by most standards. We're not gold farmers and I don't expect my guys to be doing that constantly to get 12 million credits.
hehe yes argue your point on the forum. Nobody cares especially Cryptic. I will be in game with my easily purchased fleet tabs playing instead of trolling.
We're fleets... fleets aren't supposed to be made up of just level 30's and above. New players need to be able to come in and get access to the tabs and get new gear. We have over 80 members (over 90 possibly now I haven't counted in a while), but only about 5-10% are Captain and above. The same people have contributed a lot and continue to and it's a bit of burden on the same guys.
The tabs before were outrageously cheap. I'm not proposing that... but instead something like:
It might be more than 1.2 mil each... but as I increase and the members of my fleet, we wouldn't notice the end increases. But we could fund the first 4 extra tabs with little trouble.
Your logic is flawed... the powerhue was a "bug" and is in the exact same boat as this. As for your opinion on the price... that's not the issue. The issue is it's too high by most standards. We're not gold farmers and I don't expect my guys to be doing that constantly to get 12 million credits.
ok so your a fleet
my example was for 2, count them, 2 players
not a whole fleet
now you can pool the resources of your entire fleet to make that much, just imagine how much youd each have to contribute, 80 members, its not that much
15k energy each, or is that too much?
fleet bank, remember, not personal bank we are talking about here
and if people dont wanna put any money forth, thats a personal problem not a game problem
my example was for 2, count them, 2 players
not a whole fleet
now you can pool the resources of your entire fleet to make that much, just imagine how much youd each have to contribute, 80 members, its not that much
15k energy each, or is that too much?
fleet bank, remember, not personal bank we are talking about here
and if people dont wanna put any money forth, thats a personal problem not a game problem
hehe yes argue your point on the forum. Nobody cares especially Cryptic. I will be in game with my easily purchased fleet tabs playing instead of trolling.
WTF are you talking about? 1.2 million for another tab in an inventory screen is exorbitant. That isn't trolling, it's an opinion. I am only at Lt Cmdr 7 and I have 110,000 credits, but I'll be damned if my small fleet is going to empty their pockets for something so trivial.
WTF are you talking about? 1.2 million for another tab in an inventory screen is exorbitant. That isn't trolling, it's an opinion. I am only at Lt Cmdr 7 and I have 110,000 credits, but I'll be damned if my small fleet is going to empty their pockets for something so trivial.
though it does seem that some people do want handouts
im sorry that people feel 1.2mil is alot, it sounds like alot, but in truth, its actualy VERY VERY little for a fleet
again i say, i have 800k credits, and i JUST hit 31(captain) and thats after buying stuff with credits too and vendoring off stuff i dont need
and thats with pvp....you know that place where i get no extra drops to sell
i think whats happening here is people think it is their personal responsibility to pay for entire fleet upgrades by themselves, and thus the prices should be reasonable for single players
this is not the case
its a fleet bank
the fleet should pay for it
the price should therefore be cheap when split, but expensive for any 1 person
WTF are you talking about? 1.2 million for another tab in an inventory screen is exorbitant. That isn't trolling, it's an opinion. I am only at Lt Cmdr 7 and I have 110,000 credits, but I'll be damned if my small fleet is going to empty their pockets for something so trivial.
110 at 17 is good
so 12 of you could buy it....if you split it
but in 10 levels, youll have closer to 500k EACH, and then it wont look like nearly as much, youll see
remember, low level players arent supposed to have everything handed to them or access to everything right away
also if your fleet is small, you dont need as much bank space(by comparison) to the larger fleets, so it should cost you more as a "team" sinse prices should never scale to the ammount of players
though it does seem that some people do want handouts
im sorry that people feel 1.2mil is alot, it sounds like alot, but in truth, its actualy VERY VERY little for a fleet
again i say, i have 800k credits, and i JUST hit 31(captain) and thats after buying stuff with credits too and vendoring off stuff i dont need
and thats with pvp....you know that place where i get no extra drops to sell
i think whats happening here is people think it is their personal responsibility to pay for entire fleet upgrades by themselves, and thus the prices should be reasonable for single players
this is not the case
its a fleet bank
the fleet should pay for it
the price should therefore be cheap when split, but expensive for any 1 person
Speaking of which, if you guys are having money issues, just go PvP. Yes you will probably lose msot times to the Klingons but each round pays over 2k energy credits.
though it does seem that some people do want handouts
im sorry that people feel 1.2mil is alot, it sounds like alot, but in truth, its actualy VERY VERY little for a fleet
again i say, i have 800k credits, and i JUST hit 31(captain) and thats after buying stuff with credits too and vendoring off stuff i dont need
and thats with pvp....you know that place where i get no extra drops to sell
i think whats happening here is people think it is their personal responsibility to pay for entire fleet upgrades by themselves, and thus the prices should be reasonable for single players
this is not the case
its a fleet bank
the fleet should pay for it
the price should therefore be cheap when split, but expensive for any 1 person
I am all for a civil discussion but being told I am on Welfare IRL because my six person Fleet with no one about Lt Cmdr can't afford a tab is pretty inflammatory. I would be all for each tab getting exponentially more expensive but to start the price is too high IMO.
Speaking of which, if you guys are having money issues, just go PvP. Yes you will probably lose msot times to the Klingons but each round pays over 2k energy credits.
at rank 2 its 2k, at rank 3, you get 5k credits per, havent paid attention to what rank 4 gives yet
110 at 17 is good
so 12 of you could buy it....if you split it
but in 10 levels, youll have closer to 500k EACH, and then it wont look like nearly as much, youll see
remember, low level players arent supposed to have everything handed to them or access to everything right away
also if your fleet is small, you dont need as much bank space(by comparison) to the larger fleets, so it should cost you more as a "team" sinse prices should never scale to the ammount of players
You're failing to see the point and I highly doubt any of you have managed to get all of the tabs no matter how much you talk here (I'll just assume you're lying). The fact is, banks are meant to support NEW members now, not weeks from now when everyone who has lives and don't play 24/7 can use it.
That's like saying a MK IV item costs 1.2 million but at tier 5 you could have enough to get it. At tier 5, it's no longer needed since you've managed to live without it and have grown beyond it. So your logic is flawed and invalid.
The fact is, and let's go off of fact and not opinions... the price for the tabs were too low during beta and now are too high. The fact is a rep stated that they intend to change it. So what will it be changed to? My solution costs more in the long term but is easily managed by a fleet of 10-250 members.
I think it's funny how the trolls in this forum (General Discussion) can get so uppity... and start slinging threats (I regret that I missed what was said before it was deleted by the mods). But yet a discussion here can go on being civilized and rational with no disruptions. Just goes to show you what you're dealing with in this part of the forums.
You're failing to see the point and I highly doubt any of you have managed to get all of the tabs no matter how much you talk here (I'll just assume you're lying). The fact is, banks are meant to support NEW members now, not weeks from now when everyone who has lives and don't play 24/7 can use it.
That's like saying a MK IV item costs 1.2 million but at tier 5 you could have enough to get it. At tier 5, it's no longer needed since you've managed to live without it and have grown beyond it. So your logic is flawed and invalid.
The fact is, and let's go off of fact and not opinions... the price for the tabs were too low during beta and now are too high. The fact is a rep stated that they intend to change it. So what will it be changed to? My solution costs more in the long term but is easily managed by a fleet of 10-250 members.
I think it's funny how the trolls in this forum (General Discussion) can get so uppity... and start slinging threats (I regret that I missed what was said before it was deleted by the mods). But yet a discussion here can go on being civilized and rational with no disruptions. Just goes to show you what you're dealing with in this part of the forums.
your gear example doesnt work
gear is for a PLAYER, not a FLEET
FLEETS have more money then PLAYERS do
your FLEET bank is not a PLAYER bank
the cost to a single PLAYER in a fleet of 10, is 150k each, 100 PLAYERS, is 12k each, etc etc
NEW PLAYERS shouldnt be able to just have everything all of a sudden
hasnt anyone here ever had to work for anything? seriously, you cant have everything handed to you, and this is an example of that
its not hard to get, you just have to work a bit to get it, and it is only a bit, not alot, and the more people you have the faster you can get it if they all pitch in
also please learn the definition of a troll, i am far from one, i just disagree with YOU, and understand what the price represents, im not saying thwy shouldnt change it, im saying its fine as is
Speaking of which, if you guys are having money issues, just go PvP. Yes you will probably lose msot times to the Klingons but each round pays over 2k energy credits.
I agree, PVP is a cash cow. As for losing to the Klingons... BUWHAHAHAH... all I see is DOMINATION. I guess it helps though that I am a blue klingon... a true asset to the Federation!
I agree, PVP is a cash cow. As for losing to the Klingons... BUWHAHAHAH... all I see is DOMINATION. I guess it helps though that I am a blue klingon... a true asset to the Federation!
i havent lost sinse i hit tier 4...
btw you get 10,000 credits PER MATCH at tier 4....
come on, thats 50k per match if you roll with a fleet, so itl take you all of 24 matches to buy a tab as a fleet.....(of 5 people)
thats not that much really
and lets not forget how fast you get cash in the chos nebula as a klingon, the drops there are worth a fortune and they come often
Gear to a player is like a bank is to a fleet. It's exactly the same. Your bold words don't change the fact that you lack the logic in this discussion.
Gear to a player is like a bank is to a fleet. It's exactly the same. Your bold words don't change the fact that you lack the logic in this discussion.
yes, a bank is to a fleet, but resources are earned per player
so stuff that costs 10k for a player, on a fleet level, should cost ALOT more
hence 1.2mil
imagine that you can buy a personal piece of gear for 100 merits
what would you pay if everyone in the fleet got the piece.....think of it that way
1000? id call that cheap for a permanent fleet piece of gear
100k maybe? now people will complain even though its more then fair
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This is untrue. Someone went into IRC and contacted a rep from Cryptic who said that in fact, the 1.2 million pricetag is being looked at and coming down. I'd love a Dev confirmation here and when we're looking at the change. I don't want to spend 1.2 million if right afterwards the price comes down to where a few tabs total cost 1.2.
So Dev's... any comment?! This is an absurd problem for fleets (like the uniform problem was).
its so easy to get credits
ANY 2 people by the time they reach level 30 should have enough combined to buy this
besides, 1.2 mil isn't that bad. A 10 man Captain fleet could pay for that easily.
We're fleets... fleets aren't supposed to be made up of just level 30's and above. New players need to be able to come in and get access to the tabs and get new gear. We have over 80 members (over 90 possibly now I haven't counted in a while), but only about 5-10% are Captain and above. The same people have contributed a lot and continue to and it's a bit of burden on the same guys.
The tabs before were outrageously cheap. I'm not proposing that... but instead something like:
100k - 200k - 400k - 800k - 1.6mil - 3.2mil - 6.4mil
It might be more than 1.2 mil each... but as I increase and the members of my fleet, we wouldn't notice the end increases. But we could fund the first 4 extra tabs with little trouble.
Your logic is flawed... the powerhue was a "bug" and is in the exact same boat as this. As for your opinion on the price... that's not the issue. The issue is it's too high by most standards. We're not gold farmers and I don't expect my guys to be doing that constantly to get 12 million credits.
ok so your a fleet
my example was for 2, count them, 2 players
not a whole fleet
now you can pool the resources of your entire fleet to make that much, just imagine how much youd each have to contribute, 80 members, its not that much
15k energy each, or is that too much?
fleet bank, remember, not personal bank we are talking about here
and if people dont wanna put any money forth, thats a personal problem not a game problem
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WTF are you talking about? 1.2 million for another tab in an inventory screen is exorbitant. That isn't trolling, it's an opinion. I am only at Lt Cmdr 7 and I have 110,000 credits, but I'll be damned if my small fleet is going to empty their pockets for something so trivial.
Then don't. It's trivial.
im not the one who stated it that way
though it does seem that some people do want handouts
im sorry that people feel 1.2mil is alot, it sounds like alot, but in truth, its actualy VERY VERY little for a fleet
again i say, i have 800k credits, and i JUST hit 31(captain) and thats after buying stuff with credits too and vendoring off stuff i dont need
and thats with pvp....you know that place where i get no extra drops to sell
i think whats happening here is people think it is their personal responsibility to pay for entire fleet upgrades by themselves, and thus the prices should be reasonable for single players
this is not the case
its a fleet bank
the fleet should pay for it
the price should therefore be cheap when split, but expensive for any 1 person
110 at 17 is good
so 12 of you could buy it....if you split it
but in 10 levels, youll have closer to 500k EACH, and then it wont look like nearly as much, youll see
remember, low level players arent supposed to have everything handed to them or access to everything right away
also if your fleet is small, you dont need as much bank space(by comparison) to the larger fleets, so it should cost you more as a "team" sinse prices should never scale to the ammount of players
Speaking of which, if you guys are having money issues, just go PvP. Yes you will probably lose msot times to the Klingons but each round pays over 2k energy credits.
I am all for a civil discussion but being told I am on Welfare IRL because my six person Fleet with no one about Lt Cmdr can't afford a tab is pretty inflammatory. I would be all for each tab getting exponentially more expensive but to start the price is too high IMO.
at rank 2 its 2k, at rank 3, you get 5k credits per, havent paid attention to what rank 4 gives yet
Suppose I haven't either. Nice.
You're failing to see the point and I highly doubt any of you have managed to get all of the tabs no matter how much you talk here (I'll just assume you're lying). The fact is, banks are meant to support NEW members now, not weeks from now when everyone who has lives and don't play 24/7 can use it.
That's like saying a MK IV item costs 1.2 million but at tier 5 you could have enough to get it. At tier 5, it's no longer needed since you've managed to live without it and have grown beyond it. So your logic is flawed and invalid.
The fact is, and let's go off of fact and not opinions... the price for the tabs were too low during beta and now are too high. The fact is a rep stated that they intend to change it. So what will it be changed to? My solution costs more in the long term but is easily managed by a fleet of 10-250 members.
I think it's funny how the trolls in this forum (General Discussion) can get so uppity... and start slinging threats (I regret that I missed what was said before it was deleted by the mods). But yet a discussion here can go on being civilized and rational with no disruptions. Just goes to show you what you're dealing with in this part of the forums.
your gear example doesnt work
gear is for a PLAYER, not a FLEET
FLEETS have more money then PLAYERS do
your FLEET bank is not a PLAYER bank
the cost to a single PLAYER in a fleet of 10, is 150k each, 100 PLAYERS, is 12k each, etc etc
NEW PLAYERS shouldnt be able to just have everything all of a sudden
hasnt anyone here ever had to work for anything? seriously, you cant have everything handed to you, and this is an example of that
its not hard to get, you just have to work a bit to get it, and it is only a bit, not alot, and the more people you have the faster you can get it if they all pitch in
also please learn the definition of a troll, i am far from one, i just disagree with YOU, and understand what the price represents, im not saying thwy shouldnt change it, im saying its fine as is
Why can't the first tab be $500k, second tab $1M, third, $2M and so on?
I agree, PVP is a cash cow. As for losing to the Klingons... BUWHAHAHAH... all I see is DOMINATION. I guess it helps though that I am a blue klingon... a true asset to the Federation!
i havent lost sinse i hit tier 4...
btw you get 10,000 credits PER MATCH at tier 4....
come on, thats 50k per match if you roll with a fleet, so itl take you all of 24 matches to buy a tab as a fleet.....(of 5 people)
thats not that much really
and lets not forget how fast you get cash in the chos nebula as a klingon, the drops there are worth a fortune and they come often
Gear to a player is like a bank is to a fleet. It's exactly the same. Your bold words don't change the fact that you lack the logic in this discussion.
yes, a bank is to a fleet, but resources are earned per player
so stuff that costs 10k for a player, on a fleet level, should cost ALOT more
hence 1.2mil
imagine that you can buy a personal piece of gear for 100 merits
what would you pay if everyone in the fleet got the piece.....think of it that way
1000? id call that cheap for a permanent fleet piece of gear
100k maybe? now people will complain even though its more then fair
get my point