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Thats right, i don't care if you read this or not Crypitc (Or associated entites), i'm going to say my peace regardless..

I've played several of your games, and STO by far is the worse trash i've ever encountered.

1. I find myself spending more time in Character Creation then i do in the game... why? Because the Toon creation is the only thing done properly, even said it's also redundant, and not needed...

2. You draw people in with all this marketing, advertising, and amazing character creation, just to create an impulsive push to buy lifetime subs, or 1 year subs - I find this to be purely **** business practice, you lure us in, and get as much cash out of us as you can, then we realize the game is nothing but a linear rehashed model of your predecessor games, and whats worse, the first week of game play in STO, will be exactly the same as you 240th week of game play... The hell?

3. I've been here since the betas, i want to pull the plug then, but i ignorantly let it ride, hoping ti would improve...
- It hasn't, this is beyond TRIBBLE, the server stability is ****, even the community website's stability is sub-par.
I know part-time modders who have more imagination, and better upstanding of gaming stability, and longevity then obviously your entire company.

4. My biggest regret is pre-ordering this, I've heard all the "Fan-Boy" Excuses to these issues, and they are not valid excuses :
- "Give it time, it needs to work out it's kinks" - NO, you should have done that BEFORE you launched it.

This game is a representation of your companies ability to produce, and sustain a franchised MMO - On all parts you have failed, You've upset the fan base of Star Trek, and true MMO Players, and Veterans are disgusted with this game, it does nothing to get your attention, the sheer amount of game play issues are staggering, the quests are repetitive, and rehashed, the PvP has no bearing on purpose.

There is nothing to this game, it's a shell with out a soul or purpose, Where is the MMO? I don't interact with anyone or anything - I'm so frustrated with this, i can't even articulate my frustrations..

Seems like the only effort put into STO, was the marketing, and Pre-Order "Goodies" used to lure us into your trap!

1 Month Cryptic, if i'm not enthralled, i'm out - not just from STO, but FROM any title you ever release again, i don't care what the Fan Boys say, this game is a complete joke - :mad::mad:
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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ta ra then.

    As final posts go I'm sure songs will be sung about yours.

    You clearly have no intention of giving anything any kind of chance to mature. Oh, and yes using the word 'mature' here was an ironic poke at you.

    Bye bye.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    servers will be fine and stable in a few days, no need to get your panties all in a bunch
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    lifers paid already why work for it
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Vakel wrote:
    Thats right, i don't care if you read this or not Crypitc (Or associated entites), i'm going to say my piece regardless..

    I've played several of your games, and STO by far is the worst trash I've ever encountered.

    1. I find myself spending more time in Character Creation than I do in the game... why? Because the Toon creation is the only thing done properly, even said it's also redundant, and not needed...

    2. You draw people in with all this marketing, advertising, and amazing character creation, just to create an impulsive push to buy lifetime subs, or 1 year subs - I find this to be purely **** business practice. You lure us in, and get as much cash out of us as you can, then we realize the game is nothing but a linear rehashed model of your previous games, and whats worse, the first week of game play in STO, will be exactly the same as you 240th week of game play... The hell?

    3. I've been here since the betas, i want to pull the plug then, but i ignorantly let it ride, hoping ti would improve...
    - It hasn't, this is beyond TRIBBLE, the server stability is ****, even the community website's stability is sub-par.
    I know part-time modders who have more imagination, and better understanding of gaming stability, and longevity then obviously your entire company.

    4. My biggest regret is pre-ordering this, I've heard all the "Fanboy" excuses to these issues, and they are not valid excuses :
    - "Give it time, it needs to work out it's kinks" - NO, you should have done that BEFORE you launched it.

    This game is a representation of your company's ability to produce, and sustain a franchised MMO - On all parts you have failed. You've upset the fan base of Star Trek, and true MMO Players, and Veterans are disgusted with this game, it does nothing to get your attention, the sheer amount of game play issues are staggering, the quests are repetitive, and rehashed, the PvP has no bearing or purpose.

    There is nothing to this game. It's a shell with out a soul or purpose, Where is the MMO? I don't interact with anyone or anything - I'm so frustrated with this, i can't even articulate my frustrations...

    Seems like the only effort put into STO, was the marketing, and Pre-Order "Goodies" used to lure us into your trap!

    1 Month Cryptic, if i'm not enthralled, i'm out - not just from STO, but from ANY title you ever release again, I don't care what the fanboys say, this game is a complete joke - :mad::mad:

    I love when someone writes with such nerd rage that I have to actually edit their statement.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Ben_C wrote:
    Ta ra then.

    As final posts go I'm sure songs will be sung about yours.

    You clearly have no intention of giving anything any kind of chance to mature. Oh, and yes using the word 'mature' here was an ironic poke at you.

    Bye bye.

    Psuedo-Philosphical banter from you sir.

    Let me break this down to the ABC's, for childern like you with small brains.

    This game doesn't need to "Mature", the issues with this game won't be fixed with maturing, or even several large live content patches..

    The entire super structure of this game requires stripping, and re-worked.

    BUT you are a FAN BOY, hence YOU said the VERY thing i said you would say.. Curious, thats called Irony - Roflmao, moron.

    Furthermore, if it needed to "Mature", do that prior to release, again i know kids who can mod better then this game was designed, truly a sad day in MMO's, and you sir can't even articulate a point worth of debating, you appetizing the pure fail that is STO.

    GG, you lose.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    sigh... I dont neccissarily disagree with your sentiments, but I think your delivery is is all wrong. It's like watching junior high school shakespear.

    If you really were in the frame of mind to give them one month to fix server stability, then you wouldnt come across as so angry... unless you're the kind of person who thinks people respond well to ultimatums? You should realise that anger causes people to switch off from what you are saying, and react with out really understanding what you say.

    Anyway, your post is a bit of a moot point. Most MMO'ers allready realise new games only get 1 month to impress, or the subscription base plummets. Even avid fans of an IP will tend to only stick around for 3 months if the game is sub-par. Interestingly enough, almsot every mmo is sub par these days, atleast thats what the huge line of failed and failing mmo's would suggest.

    Anyway, half of what you say I agree with, but raging isnt going to get you anything but mocked.

    I'll end this with how it started...

    sigh...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    There's reasons to go either way on this issue really. I'd like to take the optimistic view just because I'm a lifelong fan of the series and would really like to see this game take off. Cryptic will clearly play a big role in whether or not this succeeds, but the players have to have some degree of patience.

    It was a short beta, as far as I can tell, so you have to expect bugs. Patch notes for all patches would be EXTREMELY nice, especially since it at least gives us the idea our cries are being heard. Downtime is downtime, it's going to be expected. I would hope it gets to a point where we see weekly maintenance or monthly maintenance instead of random downs.

    The content can get a lot better, but they are going to have to get a feel for the playerbase before really maturing that side in my opinion. Look how much any of the long standing MMOs have changed over the years. I played Anarchy Online for a long time, then World of Warcraft, and both are essentially completely different beasts than when at launch. What they've given us is a template, and now they can either build upon that and things will grow or they can just let it die.

    Complaining typically does nothing to improve a situation, although I enjoy it quite much. The more players give constructive feedback and at least try to better the game the higher our chances of seeing success here will be.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Oh this is fun, watching Fan boys - Attempt to extrappulate emotions from a forum post.. some how that seems to defy physics..

    How amusing to watch the Fan boys rage over my alleged rage (Which is actually just a somber post about my opinions about this game), sadly all your flag waving isn't going to make my or anyone's else money stick around -- So sworryz.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Vakel wrote:
    Thats right, i don't care if you read this or not Crypitc (Or associated entites), i'm going to say my peace regardless..

    I've played several of your games, and STO by far is the worse trash i've ever encountered.

    1. I find myself spending more time in Character Creation then i do in the game... why? Because the Toon creation is the only thing done properly, even said it's also redundant, and not needed...

    2. You draw people in with all this marketing, advertising, and amazing character creation, just to create an impulsive push to buy lifetime subs, or 1 year subs - I find this to be purely **** business practice, you lure us in, and get as much cash out of us as you can, then we realize the game is nothing but a linear rehashed model of your predecessor games, and whats worse, the first week of game play in STO, will be exactly the same as you 240th week of game play... The hell?

    3. I've been here since the betas, i want to pull the plug then, but i ignorantly let it ride, hoping ti would improve...
    - It hasn't, this is beyond TRIBBLE, the server stability is ****, even the community website's stability is sub-par.
    I know part-time modders who have more imagination, and better upstanding of gaming stability, and longevity then obviously your entire company.

    4. My biggest regret is pre-ordering this, I've heard all the "Fan-Boy" Excuses to these issues, and they are not valid excuses :
    - "Give it time, it needs to work out it's kinks" - NO, you should have done that BEFORE you launched it.

    This game is a representation of your companies ability to produce, and sustain a franchised MMO - On all parts you have failed, You've upset the fan base of Star Trek, and true MMO Players, and Veterans are disgusted with this game, it does nothing to get your attention, the sheer amount of game play issues are staggering, the quests are repetitive, and rehashed, the PvP has no bearing on purpose.

    There is nothing to this game, it's a shell with out a soul or purpose, Where is the MMO? I don't interact with anyone or anything - I'm so frustrated with this, i can't even articulate my frustrations..

    Seems like the only effort put into STO, was the marketing, and Pre-Order "Goodies" used to lure us into your trap!

    1 Month Cryptic, if i'm not enthralled, i'm out - not just from STO, but FROM any title you ever release again, i don't care what the Fan Boys say, this game is a complete joke - :mad::mad:

    Amen. The only thing good about the game is the space combat. The rest is shallow and repetitive. It feels like a single player game. I agree that this was nothing but an attempt to cash in on the Star Trek name. I can only hope that in 6 months Cryptic is in the same boat as Mythic Entertainment. Maybe it'll give other game developers a fair warning about producing sub-par piece of TRIBBLE games.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Vakel wrote:
    Thats right, i don't care if you read this or not Crypitc (Or associated entites), i'm going to say my peace regardless..

    I've played several of your games, and STO by far is the worse trash i've ever encountered.

    1. I find myself spending more time in Character Creation then i do in the game... why? Because the Toon creation is the only thing done properly, even said it's also redundant, and not needed...

    2. You draw people in with all this marketing, advertising, and amazing character creation, just to create an impulsive push to buy lifetime subs, or 1 year subs - I find this to be purely **** business practice, you lure us in, and get as much cash out of us as you can, then we realize the game is nothing but a linear rehashed model of your predecessor games, and whats worse, the first week of game play in STO, will be exactly the same as you 240th week of game play... The hell?

    3. I've been here since the betas, i want to pull the plug then, but i ignorantly let it ride, hoping ti would improve...
    - It hasn't, this is beyond TRIBBLE, the server stability is ****, even the community website's stability is sub-par.
    I know part-time modders who have more imagination, and better upstanding of gaming stability, and longevity then obviously your entire company.

    4. My biggest regret is pre-ordering this, I've heard all the "Fan-Boy" Excuses to these issues, and they are not valid excuses :
    - "Give it time, it needs to work out it's kinks" - NO, you should have done that BEFORE you launched it.

    This game is a representation of your companies ability to produce, and sustain a franchised MMO - On all parts you have failed, You've upset the fan base of Star Trek, and true MMO Players, and Veterans are disgusted with this game, it does nothing to get your attention, the sheer amount of game play issues are staggering, the quests are repetitive, and rehashed, the PvP has no bearing on purpose.

    There is nothing to this game, it's a shell with out a soul or purpose, Where is the MMO? I don't interact with anyone or anything - I'm so frustrated with this, i can't even articulate my frustrations..

    Seems like the only effort put into STO, was the marketing, and Pre-Order "Goodies" used to lure us into your trap!

    1 Month Cryptic, if i'm not enthralled, i'm out - not just from STO, but FROM any title you ever release again, i don't care what the Fan Boys say, this game is a complete joke - :mad::mad:



    After buying COH/COV and champions online then buying STO and realizing its pretty much the same game with the same issues, i agree with the posters comments.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    . I find myself spending more time in Character Creation then i do in the game... why? Because the Toon creation is the only thing done properly, even said it's also redundant, and not needed...

    actually, its not. there are many many many bugs. Like most of the Gorn options are gone. Options are avaible to aliens but not the race it belongs to. they've removed some options from a few days ago. check the Interface forum for a full list.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    If you don't like the gameplay mechanics, go play something else. You think the gameplay is too shallow, play some EVE, put your ship on auto-orbit, and fire away. Think the ground combat is repetitive? Go play WoW, kill 500 owlbears for your medal, then tell me it's repetitive. Use your brain, use some strategy, and have fun with the game. If you can't, then go somewhere else because this obviously isn't for you.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Rumbleskin wrote: »
    servers will be fine and stable in a few days, no need to get your panties all in a bunch

    How do you figure? the stability has been going down all through beta, if anything it is at an all time low.

    It's going to get 5000x worse on Tuesday with an even greater load.

    This one might be a nominee for most spectacular MMO fail in a while.

    "To boldly fail like no MMO has ever failed before"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Vakel wrote:
    I've played several of your games, and STO by far is the worse trash i've ever encountered.

    People have such short memories. I played WOW on day one and at the end of my first month I ended up getting near 15 days of free game time because the server(s) I was playing on were down (a lot) in fact the reason that I played on several servers at launch was because the primary server that my friends and I started leveling on was down for three (3) days. When it finally came back up all the players discovered that the database had corrupted and all guilds, auctions, friends list etc were gone. All that was left was our characters, gear and level.

    Then there was the minor bugs, loot lag, random disconnects, normal stuff that happens in MMO launches. All the critics say Blizzard did a good job with WOW and their launch.

    So I think a server crash here or there isn't so bad when you consider the above launch of everybody's beloved WOW. :eek:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Vakel wrote:
    Thats right, i don't care if you read this or not Crypitc (Or associated entites), i'm going to say my peace regardless..

    I've played several of your games, and STO by far is the worse trash i've ever encountered.

    1. I find myself spending more time in Character Creation then i do in the game... why? Because the Toon creation is the only thing done properly, even said it's also redundant, and not needed...

    2. You draw people in with all this marketing, advertising, and amazing character creation, just to create an impulsive push to buy lifetime subs, or 1 year subs - I find this to be purely **** business practice, you lure us in, and get as much cash out of us as you can, then we realize the game is nothing but a linear rehashed model of your predecessor games, and whats worse, the first week of game play in STO, will be exactly the same as you 240th week of game play... The hell?

    3. I've been here since the betas, i want to pull the plug then, but i ignorantly let it ride, hoping ti would improve...
    - It hasn't, this is beyond TRIBBLE, the server stability is ****, even the community website's stability is sub-par.
    I know part-time modders who have more imagination, and better upstanding of gaming stability, and longevity then obviously your entire company.

    4. My biggest regret is pre-ordering this, I've heard all the "Fan-Boy" Excuses to these issues, and they are not valid excuses :
    - "Give it time, it needs to work out it's kinks" - NO, you should have done that BEFORE you launched it.

    This game is a representation of your companies ability to produce, and sustain a franchised MMO - On all parts you have failed, You've upset the fan base of Star Trek, and true MMO Players, and Veterans are disgusted with this game, it does nothing to get your attention, the sheer amount of game play issues are staggering, the quests are repetitive, and rehashed, the PvP has no bearing on purpose.

    There is nothing to this game, it's a shell with out a soul or purpose, Where is the MMO? I don't interact with anyone or anything - I'm so frustrated with this, i can't even articulate my frustrations..

    Seems like the only effort put into STO, was the marketing, and Pre-Order "Goodies" used to lure us into your trap!

    1 Month Cryptic, if i'm not enthralled, i'm out - not just from STO, but FROM any title you ever release again, i don't care what the Fan Boys say, this game is a complete joke - :mad::mad:

    Because Cryptic cares personally about you.

    Someone doesn't understand software very well.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    The.Dog wrote:
    There's reasons to go either way on this issue really. I'd like to take the optimistic view just because I'm a lifelong fan of the series and would really like to see this game take off. Cryptic will clearly play a big role in whether or not this succeeds, but the players have to have some degree of patience.

    It was a short beta, as far as I can tell, so you have to expect bugs. Patch notes for all patches would be EXTREMELY nice, especially since it at least gives us the idea our cries are being heard. Downtime is downtime, it's going to be expected. I would hope it gets to a point where we see weekly maintenance or monthly maintenance instead of random downs.

    The content can get a lot better, but they are going to have to get a feel for the playerbase before really maturing that side in my opinion. Look how much any of the long standing MMOs have changed over the years. I played Anarchy Online for a long time, then World of Warcraft, and both are essentially completely different beasts than when at launch. What they've given us is a template, and now they can either build upon that and things will grow or they can just let it die.

    Complaining typically does nothing to improve a situation, although I enjoy it quite much. The more players give constructive feedback and at least try to better the game the higher our chances of seeing success here will be.

    So you think i should "Settle" for TRIBBLE?

    This isn't a unique standard for STO, or Cryptic, if any MMO rendered out this kinda trash - I'd walk...

    Bugs, and minor stability issues is 1 thing *

    The server crashing 4 times in the first 30 hours of head start is another issue, further compounded by nearly impossibly long wait times on instanced load times seems rather sub-par..

    Don't get me wrong for a SUB-PAR OLD-Aged MMO, this isn't half bad, however sorry... to say...

    But this is 2010, and the era of New Age MMO's why should i settle for a C Grade game at the cost of an A Grade?

    MMO's are rather communist, prices are not reflected in quality. There are games that are over a decade old that have more structure then this...

    If they "CAN FIX IT", then it should been done before launching...

    Is it better to launch an incomplete, immature product in a quick fashion, or take an additional year to launch a more polished product? Which will have better retention? Hmmm...?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Vakel wrote:
    Psuedo-Philosophical banter from you sir.

    Let me break this down to the ABCs, for children like you with small brains.

    This game doesn't need to "mature", the issues with this game won't be fixed with maturing, or even several large live content patches..

    The entire super structure of this game requires stripping, and re-working.

    BUT you are a FAN BOY, hence YOU said the VERY thing i said you would say.. Curious, thats called Irony - Roflmao, moron.

    Furthermore, if it needed to "mature", it should have been done prior to release; again i know kids who can mod better than this game was designed, truly a sad day for MMOs. And you sir can't even articulate a point worthy of debating, you have appetized the pure fail that is STO.

    GG, you lose.

    Literally worst grammar fail ever.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Eirian wrote:
    Literally worst grammar fail ever.

    Thats all you have? Thats all you can fire back with? Is a grammartical attack?

    Lol, guess that proves my point, thanks Fan-boi.

    Your cute LOL
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    You know, there's no reason to freak out about the build. I've noticed it still doesn't say version 1.0 yet so....

    Anyway, nice threatening letter but have you ever thought about the fact that lifetime subs give them funds for design/hiring/maintenance/marketing? Or that the partners were waiting to see how many people were interested before launching into this title at maximum warp?

    I don't see any reason why this is a bad launch, i've been there for a few launches (lol betaholic more like) and this one seems smooth to me, just minor annoyances as expected.

    This is head start, what that means is: here is some time to play while we finish working out the transition from beta to release.

    There will be a transition phase where these forums are all deleted and etc. I'm sure we're in for a patch that is actually substantial at that point.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Vakel wrote:
    Psuedo-Philosphical banter from you sir.

    Let me break this down to the ABC's, for childern like you with small brains.

    This game doesn't need to "Mature", the issues with this game won't be fixed with maturing, or even several large live content patches..

    The entire super structure of this game requires stripping, and re-worked.

    BUT you are a FAN BOY, hence YOU said the VERY thing i said you would say.. Curious, thats called Irony - Roflmao, moron.

    Furthermore, if it needed to "Mature", do that prior to release, again i know kids who can mod better then this game was designed, truly a sad day in MMO's, and you sir can't even articulate a point worth of debating, you appetizing the pure fail that is STO.

    GG, you lose.

    I love when people that think they are smarter then everyone else posts. its better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool then open it and remove all doubt. chew on that for a few mr.brains
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Vakel wrote:
    Thats right, i don't care if you read this or not Crypitc (Or associated entites), i'm going to say my peace regardless..

    I've played several of your games, and STO by far is the worse trash i've ever encountered.

    1. I find myself spending more time in Character Creation then i do in the game... why? Because the Toon creation is the only thing done properly, even said it's also redundant, and not needed...

    2. You draw people in with all this marketing, advertising, and amazing character creation, just to create an impulsive push to buy lifetime subs, or 1 year subs - I find this to be purely **** business practice, you lure us in, and get as much cash out of us as you can, then we realize the game is nothing but a linear rehashed model of your predecessor games, and whats worse, the first week of game play in STO, will be exactly the same as you 240th week of game play... The hell?

    3. I've been here since the betas, i want to pull the plug then, but i ignorantly let it ride, hoping ti would improve...
    - It hasn't, this is beyond TRIBBLE, the server stability is ****, even the community website's stability is sub-par.
    I know part-time modders who have more imagination, and better upstanding of gaming stability, and longevity then obviously your entire company.

    4. My biggest regret is pre-ordering this, I've heard all the "Fan-Boy" Excuses to these issues, and they are not valid excuses :
    - "Give it time, it needs to work out it's kinks" - NO, you should have done that BEFORE you launched it.

    This game is a representation of your companies ability to produce, and sustain a franchised MMO - On all parts you have failed, You've upset the fan base of Star Trek, and true MMO Players, and Veterans are disgusted with this game, it does nothing to get your attention, the sheer amount of game play issues are staggering, the quests are repetitive, and rehashed, the PvP has no bearing on purpose.

    There is nothing to this game, it's a shell with out a soul or purpose, Where is the MMO? I don't interact with anyone or anything - I'm so frustrated with this, i can't even articulate my frustrations..

    Seems like the only effort put into STO, was the marketing, and Pre-Order "Goodies" used to lure us into your trap!

    1 Month Cryptic, if i'm not enthralled, i'm out - not just from STO, but FROM any title you ever release again, i don't care what the Fan Boys say, this game is a complete joke - :mad::mad:


    MUAHAHAH Cryptic knows that those are all empty threats. They know that the Internets won't let you go. They know that after all that venting, a single one day of gameplay will leave you with enough reason to play even if the next two days are down. It's like a Casino, you might loose 20 times but that one time you win is enough to keep you playing 20 more times. They have you! IF you could have left you would have during the Beta Stage. The fact that you stuck around so long goes to show that you won't leave.
    MUAHAHAHAHA

    CRYPTIC OWNS YOU! As it does 39983833838 Other Posters crying havoc. They know that all the B.S. on the forums will die down. They probably don't even read this.
    Did they ever read the Beta Forums? Do you actually see the fixes that we posted in CLOSED and OPEN BETA? NO!!!! They maybe fixed 2% of all the bugs we reported like crazy.
    Face it. The game is not ready nor it will be for at least the next 6 months. By then it will suffer the Champions Online Fate.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Wow...He is mad.

    I hope you have a better day soon. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Last post i've said my peace - I won't agrue with ignorant fan boys entrenched in their fluffying trends.

    Look around, on this website, MMORPG, and other open sourced reviews on this game, i'm not alone in my notions.

    I'm not settle for a sub-par game, if you can pay large amounts of capital to wait for a game to mature, be my guest, you ovbously are easy to entertain - Good on you, personally none of this banter is changing my mind, you are only reinforcing my point, that all you can do is be trolls.. you can't articulate a point worth considering..

    Have fun trolling each other, hope you find a new forum to do it on once this one shuts down because they can't fund it anymore - due to such low retention Buh Bye Fan bois. :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Vakel wrote:
    Thats all you have? Thats all you can fire back with? Is a grammartical attack?

    Lol, guess that proves my point, thanks Fan-boi.

    Your cute LOL

    *You're cute.
    *grammatical

    Who looks dumb this time? Oh right, it's you again.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I don't disagree with his statements or intenti. They're actually similar to mine. I did not buy lifetime or even 12 month subs because I didn't trust that the game would be up to the standard of a good, solid, enjoyable MMO by then. My friends/ and guildmates from prior games are curious about STO--I've been warning them off for now. Give it six months. Since I did the pre-order I'll give it a month, , myself, though I'm not expecting miracles and will probably after that time leave the game to either grow and sophisticate or flounder and be abandoned.

    This isn't nerd rage, threat, or anything else. Just a communication that says "here's my level of tolerance". I've tried to log into STO three times over the past weekend; all three times it was down. Open Beta is certainly continuing into head start! Yes, one could say "these things are expected with an MMO, MMO X was much worse at start" but why hold yourselves to the worst possible standards and expectations for a launch? I would expect more after having launched two other titles and having the cumulative experience of watching multiple other ones launch previously.

    I have no doubt that the devs love Star Trek, but in this case ithe game also needs expertise, competence, and the ability to provide a stable platform for play.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Vakel wrote:
    Thats right, i don't care if you read this or not Crypitc (Or associated entites), i'm going to say my peace regardless..

    I've played several of your games, and STO by far is the worse trash i've ever encountered.

    1. I find myself spending more time in Character Creation then i do in the game... why? Because the Toon creation is the only thing done properly, even said it's also redundant, and not needed...

    2. You draw people in with all this marketing, advertising, and amazing character creation, just to create an impulsive push to buy lifetime subs, or 1 year subs - I find this to be purely **** business practice, you lure us in, and get as much cash out of us as you can, then we realize the game is nothing but a linear rehashed model of your predecessor games, and whats worse, the first week of game play in STO, will be exactly the same as you 240th week of game play... The hell?

    3. I've been here since the betas, i want to pull the plug then, but i ignorantly let it ride, hoping ti would improve...
    - It hasn't, this is beyond TRIBBLE, the server stability is ****, even the community website's stability is sub-par.
    I know part-time modders who have more imagination, and better upstanding of gaming stability, and longevity then obviously your entire company.

    4. My biggest regret is pre-ordering this, I've heard all the "Fan-Boy" Excuses to these issues, and they are not valid excuses :
    - "Give it time, it needs to work out it's kinks" - NO, you should have done that BEFORE you launched it.

    This game is a representation of your companies ability to produce, and sustain a franchised MMO - On all parts you have failed, You've upset the fan base of Star Trek, and true MMO Players, and Veterans are disgusted with this game, it does nothing to get your attention, the sheer amount of game play issues are staggering, the quests are repetitive, and rehashed, the PvP has no bearing on purpose.

    There is nothing to this game, it's a shell with out a soul or purpose, Where is the MMO? I don't interact with anyone or anything - I'm so frustrated with this, i can't even articulate my frustrations..

    Seems like the only effort put into STO, was the marketing, and Pre-Order "Goodies" used to lure us into your trap!

    1 Month Cryptic, if i'm not enthralled, i'm out - not just from STO, but FROM any title you ever release again, i don't care what the Fan Boys say, this game is a complete joke - :mad::mad:

    You know, do yourself and us who enjoy the game a favor and just return you preorder and quit now. You'll be a happier person, and we'll have one less troll on the STO boards.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Vakel wrote:
    Last post i've said my peace - I won't agrue with ignorant fan boys entrenched in their fluffying trends.

    Look around, on this website, MMORPG, and other open sourced reviews on this game, i'm not alone in my notions.

    I'm not settle for a sub-par game, if you can pay large amounts of capital to wait for a game to mature, be my guest, you ovbously are easy to entertain - Good on you, personally none of this banter is changing my mind, you are only reinforcing my point, that all you can do is be trolls.. you can't articulate a point worth considering..

    Have fun trolling each other, hope you find a new forum to do it on once this one shuts down because they can't fund it anymore - due to such low retention Buh Bye Fan bois. :rolleyes:

    well on closing i have noticed that you think people are trying to change your mind i have'nt seen any of this so far what i have seen is people who dispute your ideas which by your last post seen quoted here is'nt really your own. nobodys saying god man please dont go. if anything people are saying leave the game will be better with out you.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Well, that's cool man but I think I've personally found a great game, and out of all my pre-launch beta hunches I was only ever wrong about AoC.

    Take care now, bye bye then.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Can I have your stuff?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I vote for making STO F2P. An advertised "mmorpg" that is really just an mmo-action/adv game, about as rpg as sw battlefront 2.

    No real exploration/ship interiors/full planets, constant downtime, a paid headstart that isn't....yes F2P.
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