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  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ajac09 wrote: »
    Either need a nerf or something its kind of annoying that in away missions even if thier the ony one left they bascially attempt to TRIBBLE the player and almost completely ignores your away mission team. and usually its a one or 2 hit kill when they use thier melee weapon... only tip I can give to any new players use your away team as sacrificial lambs get behind him and use a special attack.. but I hate having to do that.. lol

    One or Two hit kill? Eh?... Can't say that has every happened to me, if anything I think it's a bit too easy, you can be attacked by a sword master and a warrior or two and still be alright (tricorder, hypo-spray, knockback...).
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ajac09 wrote: »
    see I consider swtiching weapons going to one when your cool down isnt up an exploit and refuse to use it.. its a game mechanic I know just how I feel

    You think switching weapons is an exploit? Are you for real? Nah, you HAVE to be a troll and a pretty darn good one to bait so many people.

    Either that, or you are doing it WAY wrong. You do not use the weapon switching to use special attacks more often. You use an expose weapon on your main hand, use it normally, use the special attack as often. And as soon as an enemy is exposed, THEN you switch to your off-hand weapon (which is an exploit weapon, and ready to fire because you do not use it often) and bash the enemy for some major damage. Gosh, no wonder you are having such a hard time if you are using the weapons that way. I'll have to agree with the posters on the 1st page. You do need to learn how to play.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Look, he was confused and didn't understand how the game works. Now he knows, and will profit from it. We don't need to beat him with the "learn to play, noob" stick since he as admitted he didn't know how to play. Lets just move on.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    You have been trying to nerf just about everything since you started playing in OB, I remember you, thats how much you complain. If you spent more time practising instead of calling for nerfs you might find everythings alright as it is...
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    You think switching weapons is an exploit? Are you for real? Nah, you HAVE to be a troll and a pretty darn good one to bait so many people.

    Either that, or you are doing it WAY wrong. You do not use the weapon switching to use special attacks more often. You use an expose weapon on your main hand, use it normally, use the special attack as often. And as soon as an enemy is exposed, THEN you switch to your off-hand weapon (which is an exploit weapon, and ready to fire because you do not use it often) and bash the enemy for some major damage. Gosh, no wonder you are having such a hard time if you are using the weapons that way. I'll have to agree with the posters on the 1st page. You do need to learn how to play.

    no switching weapon so u dont have a cool down is aka you use your special attack and then switch to a different weapon use its special attack which of course is ready. sorry I feel that an exploit of the game mechanics defeats the purpose of cool downs. You shouldnt be able to use your special switch weapon and use its special dont like it sorry.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ajac09 wrote: »
    no switching weapon so u dont have a cool down is aka you use your special attack and then switch to a different weapon use its special attack which of course is ready. sorry I feel that an exploit of the game mechanics defeats the purpose of cool downs. You shouldnt be able to use your special switch weapon and use its special dont like it sorry.

    Dude, that is your problem, not a problem with the game. Blaming that the game is too hard because you do not want to use the tools available is ludicrous.

    It's like playing a tennis match without a racket because you feel it's "wrong" and then complaining to the referee that you lost because you were at a disadvantage... Get real man, no one is going to take you seriously this way.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Dude, that is your problem, not a problem with the game. Blaming that the game is too hard because you do not want to use the tools available is ludicrous.

    It's like playing a tennis match without a racket because you feel it's "wrong" and then complaining to the referee that you lost because you were at a disadvantage... Get real man, no one is going to take you seriously this way.

    huh? that made no sense... since you play the game wtih the racket and its part of the game... switching between weapons to break the cool down is an exploit. its more like this you got the tennis racket... you hit the ball another one is coming the racket is in motion in the other direction but in your other you have a baseball bat and decide to bring it up and hit it. Same as with this 'feature" you are using it to break the cool down whats the point of the cool down if you can go around it. Sorry that you like to cheat I dont. Main reason big nerfs happen.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    * Holsters the "learn to play, noob" stick *
    * equips "heal mental health" hypo. *
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ajac09 wrote: »
    huh? that made no sense... since you play the game wtih the racket and its part of the game... switching between weapons to break the cool down is an exploit. its more like this you got the tennis racket... you hit the ball another one is coming the racket is in motion in the other direction but in your other you have a baseball bat and decide to bring it up and hit it. Same as with this 'feature" you are using it to break the cool down whats the point of the cool down if you can go around it. Sorry that you like to cheat I dont. Main reason big nerfs happen.

    No one is breaking a cooldown on a weapon, the weapons have separate cooldowns. If I use my exploit weapon, switch to my expose weapon, and switch back, I still have the cooldown there. What exploit are you talking about?

    Are you thinking that the 2 weapons should have a shared cooldown? why? they are separate weapons. There is nothing wrong with firing the special on one weapon, switching to the other, and firing its special. Separate weapons, separate cooldowns. Where is the cheating part?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    huh? that made no sense... since you play the game wtih the racket and its part of the game... switching between weapons to break the cool down is an exploit. its more like this you got the tennis racket... you hit the ball another one is coming the racket is in motion in the other direction but in your other you have a baseball bat and decide to bring it up and hit it. Same as with this 'feature" you are using it to break the cool down whats the point of the cool down if you can go around it. Sorry that you like to cheat I dont. Main reason big nerfs happen.

    Its not point in breaking cooldown its in using different attack!

    wtf? why couldnt someone carry phazor pistol and rifle and switch around them in combat!?
    Go play Counter Strike, they can switch from AK-47 to Pistol if they ran out of bullets ... gogo report that to Valve as exploit ...

    And i got non-expirable infraction because of this idjot :mad: yeye hurry go report this too :rolleyes: ... frikin nubtard
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Necto wrote: »
    Its not point in breaking cooldown its in using different attack!

    wtf? why couldnt someone carry phazor pistol and rifle and switch around them in combat!?
    Go play Counter Strike, they can switch from AK-47 to Pistol if they ran out of bullets ... gogo report that to Valve as exploit ...

    And i got non-expirable infraction because of this idjot :mad: yeye hurry go report this too :rolleyes: ... frikin nubtard

    umm casue its a game and should have rules not ways for people to explot it. You all want it to be harder then maybe u shouldnt exploit.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ajac09 wrote: »
    huh? that made no sense... since you play the game wtih the racket and its part of the game... switching between weapons to break the cool down is an exploit. its more like this you got the tennis racket... you hit the ball another one is coming the racket is in motion in the other direction but in your other you have a baseball bat and decide to bring it up and hit it. Same as with this 'feature" you are using it to break the cool down whats the point of the cool down if you can go around it. Sorry that you like to cheat I dont. Main reason big nerfs happen.

    Wow, you aren't really this dumb are you?
    It's not an exploit. You aren't breaking cool downs. If you switch back it will still be on cool down.
    It's a tactic you're suppose to use. They give you 2 weapon slots for that very reason
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    I think they're not challenging enough really.

    Too often I get into a situation that should really be unwinnable, and end up wiping the floor with them. Perhaps shields need a massive reduction in recharge rate.

    The trick with any high hp mob is managing your expose/exploits well. Perhaps being a science officer I also have a few more tools available to manage those guys.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ajac09 wrote: »
    umm casue its a game and should have rules not ways for people to explot it. You all want it to be harder then maybe u shouldnt exploit.

    Who is exploiting what? I have no idea what you are getting at. Really, I do not.

    Ok, to make it simple for you, then only use one weapon. An exploit weapon, and give all your BOs an expose weapon. And only use your special when the enemy is in expose. Do not use it at any other times. That is more than enough to beat any enemy in ground combat.

    But I still do not get what you mean about exploiting weapons switching when each weapon still keeps its own cooldown.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Who is exploiting what? I have no idea what you are getting at. Really, I do not.

    Ok, to make it simple for you, then only use one weapon. An exploit weapon, and give all your BOs an expose weapon. And only use your special when the enemy is in expose. Do not use it at any other times. That is more than enough to beat any enemy in ground combat.

    But I still do not get what you mean about exploiting weapons switching when each weapon still keeps its own cooldown.

    ur exploting by breaking the cool down timer. By switching out weapons your going around having to wait to use a weapons special attack that is consdiered an exploit. And they will nerf it eventually when they see everyone using it but enoguh of this am in game playing lol so enjoy the forum .
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ajac09 wrote: »
    ur exploting by breaking the cool down timer. By switching out weapons your going around having to wait to use a weapons special attack that is consdiered an exploit. And they will nerf it eventually when they see everyone using it but enoguh of this am in game playing lol so enjoy the forum .

    What??? Man, you lost me. You really did. Anyway, yeah, go enjoy the game, I will too as soon as I get out of work. No nerfing on ground combat though. It's fine as it is.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    1. Call for nerf.
    2. Learn that you haven't figured out basics.
    3. Make up delusional reason not to use the basics.
    4. ???
    5. Profit.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    corbaer wrote:
    1. Call for nerf.
    2. Learn that you haven't figured out basics.
    3. Make up delusional reason not to use the basics.
    4. ???
    5. Profit.

    just to remind ya I only called on nerf on one npc the rest are a bit easy b

    1. Call for nerf of sword master and officers (but only sword master now officer was just a one time fluke )
    2. Doesnt use exploits casue he doesnt cheat to win
    3.??
    4. Profit (and keeps values something alot of people on this thread lack)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Purposely ignoring what people are telling him and continuing to ramble on about nonsense. Guy is just a troll or the densest person I've ever seen.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ajac09 wrote: »
    ur exploting by breaking the cool down timer. By switching out weapons your going around having to wait to use a weapons special attack that is consdiered an exploit. And they will nerf it eventually when they see everyone using it but enoguh of this am in game playing lol so enjoy the forum .
    You are wrong in this respect. The cooldown IS NOT global. The cooldown for the special attack is specific TO that weapon. That's why you could still used two special attacks if you switch, but it does NOT change the cooldown time for both.

    IF the devs thought it was wrong, they would had INITIATED A GLOBAL COOLDOWN on the special attacks.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Halstead wrote:
    You are wrong in this respect. The cooldown IS NOT global. The cooldown for the special attack is specific TO that weapon. That's why you could still used two special attacks if you switch, but it does NOT change the cooldown time for both.

    IF the devs thought it was wrong, they would had INITIATED A GLOBAL COOLDOWN on the special attacks.

    which will probobly come since everyone thinks its so "easy"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Yeah well, how else are you going to use expose/exploit on your own in PvP ground? :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Halstead wrote:
    Yeah well, how else are you going to use expose/exploit on your own in PvP ground? :rolleyes:

    as bad as pvp is right now I will avoid that
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Sounds like you should avoid it after it improves too... you're gonna get your tribbles handed to ya by imagining that game mechanics are exploits. Perhaps you'll be reporting people for swapping weapons in combat...

    Oh that would be rich.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Now see there, it aint so hard to have two weapons, a melee and a gun, a gun and a gun. Take a pistol and a rifle. The pistol have a hip holster and the rifle can be holstered on your shoulder. See there, it's not so bad to switch between them and have fun in a believable way :rolleyes: Remember the these weapon special attacks ARE NOT YOUR OWN but the weapon's own. Switch to the second gun while the gun's "recharging" or "remodulating" or whatever to build up for another special attack.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Let me get this straight?!
    You want devs to nerf valid tactic, because YOU think its exploit.
    Just to ask them again to nerf NPCs because YOU cannot beat them without that valid tactic which you consider exploit.

    You know in space combat, you can shoot your front or broadside phazers at enemy and than turn your TRIBBLE to them and voley torpedo at them!!
    I say exploit too!! GoGetem!! Ships should only be able to move in one direction!! Forward!! and if you want to turn around there should be an global cooldown on everything!!

    :rolleyes:
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    Necto wrote: »
    Let me get this straight?!
    You want devs to nerf valid tactic, because YOU think its exploit.
    Just to ask them again to nerf NPCs because YOU cannot beat them without that valid tactic which you consider exploit.

    You know in space combat, you can shoot your front or broadside phazers at enemy and than turn your TRIBBLE to them and voley and torpedo!!
    I say exploit too!! GoGetem!! Ships should only be able to move in one direction!! Forward!! and if you want to turn around there should be an global cooldown on everything!!

    :rolleyes:

    umm its not a valid tactic. It defeats the purpose of a cool down by allowing a player to use two devestating in seconds of each other.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    ajac09 wrote: »
    umm its not a valid tactic. It defeats the purpose of a cool down by allowing a player to use two devestating in seconds of each other.
    So? They're not innate to you as player abilities, but to the weapons themselves. The developers obviously intended the players to make use of BOTH weapon slots or they would had included a GLOBAL cooldown for the weapons' special attacks as I said earlier.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    corbaer wrote:
    * Holsters the "learn to play, noob" stick *
    * equips "heal mental health" hypo. *

    Yeah, sorry about that. We might be dealing with mental damage here.

    It is specifically intended, by the Cryptic developers, that you switch weapons to use multiple cool downs on their special attacks.

    Calling playing the game in a way the developers intended IS kind of...crazy.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Member Posts: 2,264,498 Arc User
    edited January 2010
    V0rt wrote:
    Purposely ignoring what people are telling him and continuing to ramble on about nonsense. Guy is just a troll or the densest person I've ever seen.

    Light does not escape this man. However, this game play mechanic does.
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