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sovereign010sovereign010 Member Posts: 636 Arc User
As above, has there been any word on there being a new reputation this summer? In previous years they used to launch these during the final weeks of summer, meaning those players aware of this would hold on to their birds and monkeys in anticipation of trading for the new marks. Last year this didn't happen for obvious reasons, has there been any official word on whether the same is true this year?
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,913 Arc User
    I don't think so, at least I haven't heard anything.

    People are becoming tired of them, so we may not get any more, at least for awhile.
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  • sovereign010sovereign010 Member Posts: 636 Arc User
    echatty wrote: »
    I don't think so, at least I haven't heard anything.

    People are becoming tired of them, so we may not get any more, at least for awhile.

    It does get to be a bit overwhelming for new captains and very repetitive (click the rep, click the project, click the fill...repeat for every single rep).

    Brings to mind an idea -- you could have additional captains continue to enhance your 'sponsored' status as an extra project for level 6 rep, costing like 1000 rep marks and 10k dilithium. This project then unlocks a third 'rep project' option for your all your captains, which has the same value as the standard 20-hour project but is increased by an additional 20% for each captain who unlocks that rep's enhanced sponsorship status -- 6k for the first captain, 7k for the second, 8k for the third, and so on. However, this project would not give a rep item box and would cost 1k dilithium (increasing by 250 for each additional 'enhanced' project completed for that rep) in addition to the standard item costs. And, for added giggles, a reputation with 'enhanced sponsorship' status could unlock another elite mark rep project that only takes an hour but costs an extra 2k dilithium as well.

    So, with 9 captains who have all completed all reps' enhanced sponsorship project, you could finish a new captain's reputation grind up in under 14 days at the cost of ~42k dilithium, when combined with the regular rep project.
    It's why the summer events become important for new captains as it provides an efficient way to generate marks for the dozen or so reputations currently available, and for existing captains accruing the newest marks to the same levels as the other marks, which in some cases runs into the thousands or tens of thousands. The pattern in years past has always been to release the new marks during the last week of the summer event. Of course saving up means eating inv space, especially using the festival marks to buy eggs when the hunt doesn't reward any. Looks like I'll need to shift all the green gear that I save for the 'Gain salvage' endeavour to my Klingon recruit all in one go.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,754 Arc User
    Hopefully we'll get another one when they can add some really interesting stuff.

    I'm thinking of something like a reputation where we go back to our old enemies (especially the ones that aren't pure evil and which have some factions within them that we could have diplomatic relations with - think of the Voth, Undine, Vaadwaur, Tzenkethi, maybe even Gorn and Orions and such) and try to work things out.

    They could add all sorts of unique boffs, uniforms, vanity shields, unique weapon visuals and so on. Basically, a lot of stuff that's nice to have but which you could ignore just fine if you don't want it as the absence of gear and trait means that it wouldn't really impact the player's ability to play the game's content with specific gear load outs.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
    They were probably going to transition from story arcs to single episode stories. While access to Andromeda would open up the creativity door as all we know is the Kelvans came from Andromeda and the Iconians spent time there, we could probably expand the Delta Quadrant more too. Run into the guys that the Equinox ran into, venture beyond the regions Voyager passed through...
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,918 Arc User
    edited July 2021
    This game needs more reputations like it needs more promo box ships.

    So yeah, we’ll probably get one. :lol:
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  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,723 Arc User
    At this point, what species is so badass that we need a set of specially designed gear to counter? The Kelvans from Andromeda? That's pretty much the only Trek species I can think of with enough power to warrant one.

    The First Federation comes to mind. Granted they are on friendly terms, but they did possess borg transwarp equivalent technology and seemingly Iconian equivalent 'computer' technology in the era of Kirk/TOS.

    There's also the matter of the infamous Whale Probe - who/what sent it? Something with the ability to deploy 'probes' that can annihilate entire worlds single-handedly.

    Even outside of a total armageddon scenario, a Counter- Breen or Shelliak(or perhaps a 'inner-core space alliance' of multiple hostile factions) reputation could probably be interesting. There's plenty of potential left in the galaxy/lore to write a new galactic opposition.

    I'd argue we still need a plasma-weapon based reputation with a set Omni beam. Make the sets CC-heavy with lots of disables, interrupts and confusion procs/abilities to help open up that playstyle to a wider audience(it's stronger than most people realize).
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,331 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    They were probably going to transition from story arcs to single episode stories. While access to Andromeda would open up the creativity door as all we know is the Kelvans came from Andromeda and the Iconians spent time there, we could probably expand the Delta Quadrant more too. Run into the guys that the Equinox ran into, venture beyond the regions Voyager passed through...

    There is no need to go to Andromeda. IIRC that galaxy was on the verge of death (though I may have to rewatch), so why invite such trouble deliberately. The abscense of ANY Andromeda species in the 29th Century on the Khitomer station is proof enough that they haven't gone there yet.

    There's also the fact that there could be a dozen or more hidden threats in our own galaxy, as as of 2411, they've still barely explored half of it, adding the exploration data the Dominion (hopefully) shares with the Alliance.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,248 Arc User
    szerontzur wrote: »
    Even outside of a total armageddon scenario, a Counter- Breen or Shelliak(or perhaps a 'inner-core space alliance' of multiple hostile factions) reputation could probably be interesting. There's plenty of potential left in the galaxy/lore to write a new galactic opposition.
    The Sheliak, while not liking the Federation, were shown to prefer diplomacy over violence. Even though they could have easily wiped the colony off the planet, without anyone knowing, it was THEM who contacted the Federation for diplomatic talks

    Honestly most alpha quadrant powers could destroyed that colony if they wanted to do so including the Federation, which I assume was the Sheliak's plan in the first place, either force UFP to allow them to destroy the colony or force Starfleet to destroy it by themselves.

    Honestly nothing we know about the Sheliak suggest they would be a Quadrant level threat.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
    spiritborn wrote: »
    Honestly most alpha quadrant powers could destroyed that colony if they wanted to do so including the Federation, which I assume was the Sheliak's plan in the first place, either force UFP to allow them to destroy the colony or force Starfleet to destroy it by themselves.

    Honestly nothing we know about the Sheliak suggest they would be a Quadrant level threat.

    They got owned by Picard though.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILbLGNDqUxA

    And I have to agree. The Sheliak aren't a threat like the Tzenkethi were. We'd need something new.
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,248 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    spiritborn wrote: »
    Honestly most alpha quadrant powers could destroyed that colony if they wanted to do so including the Federation, which I assume was the Sheliak's plan in the first place, either force UFP to allow them to destroy the colony or force Starfleet to destroy it by themselves.

    Honestly nothing we know about the Sheliak suggest they would be a Quadrant level threat.

    They got owned by Picard though.
    *snip vid*

    And I have to agree. The Sheliak aren't a threat like the Tzenkethi were. We'd need something new.

    Honestly if the fact that they accepted the resolution Picard gave them rather then brute forcing the results they wanted suggests a lesser power who could not just bully the Federation to do what they wanted (and thus would make a poor opponent to be used for a rep).
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
    If anything, the Synth Union probably stagnated. But stagnated at a highly advanced point. They KNOW there's something there, but the question is do they need that beacon to even get there?
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,276 Arc User
    What ships? Tentacles are not ships, and they didn't even do anything before getting yanked back through the collapsing rift, so we have no idea how strong they are either.​​
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,754 Arc User
    Flies can evade flyswatters.

    It is a mistake to think that a highly advanced species could wipe out a lesser one with little to no effort simply because they're 'more advanced' by some arbitrary (and in this case, poorly defined) measure.

    ---

    Besides that, one of the problems with the Synths is that they make little sense. They know - or assume - that synthetic life tends to be oppressed by organic life. When that happens, they come in and free the synthetics.

    But why wait (they didn't do much besides waiting, except maybe using propaganda against a highly paranoid species) until that happens if you know it will happen and you want to prevent it from happening?


    The only way - that I see - that this could make sense if they need organics in some way. Like to create new and more advanced or diverse synthetic lifeforms. Possibly because they cannot advance and innovate by themselves, like the Borg.

    But this dependency would probably make them much less of a threat.
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    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,754 Arc User
    As for the inability to innovate by themselves: this would also make them much less interesting compared to other known artificial lifeforms.

    The Doctor improved himself in many ways, Data built himself a family. The most succesful artificial lifeforms can go beyond their original programming. There really isn't any reason to treat biological evolution differently compared to synthetic evolution. It's a common theme in Trek, also in recent series with Stamets' remarks regarding the similarities between biology and physics. Ultimately, it's particles doing their thing and it all boils down to having the right building blocks.

    So a Synth civilisation may be evolving the same way the Federation or some of it species did/do. If they still needed something from organic life, they may be doing something wrong or suffer from some limitation that isn't inherently bound to them being synthetics.
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 57,973 Community Moderator
    As for the inability to innovate by themselves: this would also make them much less interesting compared to other known artificial lifeforms.

    The Doctor improved himself in many ways, Data built himself a family. The most succesful artificial lifeforms can go beyond their original programming. There really isn't any reason to treat biological evolution differently compared to synthetic evolution. It's a common theme in Trek, also in recent series with Stamets' remarks regarding the similarities between biology and physics. Ultimately, it's particles doing their thing and it all boils down to having the right building blocks.

    So a Synth civilisation may be evolving the same way the Federation or some of it species did/do. If they still needed something from organic life, they may be doing something wrong or suffer from some limitation that isn't inherently bound to them being synthetics.

    Its possible that they need Organics to develop Synthetics. In a way they're probably like the Reapers from Mass Effect, and trying to propogate a cycle. A Cycle that has been disrupted by the efforts of one Jean-Luc Picard and the actions of the United Federation of Planets to protect the Synths from the Zhat Vash.

    Although I have to wonder if the Treaty of Algeron, which was cited by Riker, is still in effect considering that as far as we know, the Romulan Star Empire is defunct after the supernova. Its possible that the Federation is going to honor the treaty until a successor state rises up and they can negotiate either a revamp or something else entirely, but I kinda feel like the Treaty of Algeron might be kinda... moot at this point.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,754 Arc User
    But why wait (they didn't do much besides waiting, except maybe using propaganda against a highly paranoid species) until that happens if you know it will happen and you want to prevent it from happening?
    Because hating the fact that organic life ends up making synthetics, and oppresses them, doesn't mean you hate organic life so much that you are going to actively go out an genocide them before they do it.

    Like, hell, thats a concept we humans practice. Not killing people before they do something wrong.

    True.

    It's been a few months since I saw ST:Picard but I had the impression that they didn't really care about organic life though. Almost like it was a pest or something that needed to be erradicated. And I vaguely remember there being some element of inevitability, of knowing that they will do wrong some day. And then that civilisation would be wiped out, all progress being undone.

    It just seemed odd to me. Why bother waiting at all if you're going to undo everything a society has ever accomplished anyway? Seems kind of pointless.


    (But maybe I'm too much focussed on the long term and the big picture - everything is pointless in the end after all. But only literally 'everything', at the aggregated level, as within that everything there are plenty of good moments to be found.
    I guess Leonard was partly right. A life is like a garden. Perfect moments cannot be preserved, not even in memory. But at least they can be had.)
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    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
  • sovereign010sovereign010 Member Posts: 636 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    As for the inability to innovate by themselves: this would also make them much less interesting compared to other known artificial lifeforms.

    The Doctor improved himself in many ways, Data built himself a family. The most succesful artificial lifeforms can go beyond their original programming. There really isn't any reason to treat biological evolution differently compared to synthetic evolution. It's a common theme in Trek, also in recent series with Stamets' remarks regarding the similarities between biology and physics. Ultimately, it's particles doing their thing and it all boils down to having the right building blocks.

    So a Synth civilisation may be evolving the same way the Federation or some of it species did/do. If they still needed something from organic life, they may be doing something wrong or suffer from some limitation that isn't inherently bound to them being synthetics.

    Its possible that they need Organics to develop Synthetics. In a way they're probably like the Reapers from Mass Effect, and trying to propogate a cycle. A Cycle that has been disrupted by the efforts of one Jean-Luc Picard and the actions of the United Federation of Planets to protect the Synths from the Zhat Vash.

    Although I have to wonder if the Treaty of Algeron, which was cited by Riker, is still in effect considering that as far as we know, the Romulan Star Empire is defunct after the supernova. Its possible that the Federation is going to honor the treaty until a successor state rises up and they can negotiate either a revamp or something else entirely, but I kinda feel like the Treaty of Algeron might be kinda... moot at this point.
    That's why the series has been accused of ripping off the plot from Mass Effect 2 😁
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