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Ten Forward Weekly 4/07/21
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Copy/paste from reddit:
https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/mnbqps/ten_forward_weekly_07042021_delta_recruits/
https://www.reddit.com/r/sto/comments/mnbqps/ten_forward_weekly_07042021_delta_recruits/
- Recruitment events were created mostly for retention, as opposed to attraction, although the fact that new players could be attracted by it were also considered while forming the list of tasks.
- When Andre discovered that they have all those recruitments laying around, he decided that they should be rerunning them "as often as possible", because such big feature that took significant time to do shouldn't be only run once.
- In preparation for Temporal recruitment rerun, there are some changes to TOS experience that are being done.
- Jesse repeated that yes, the old DRs would also be updated to modern standard.
- There would be updates to DR storyline, because some of the old content became aged, outdated and sidelined, so while they still want to keep it available, they won't be pushing us to it.
- Breen arc was the most prominent issue here, as it was very important to DRs, being its conclusion point, but as the first expansion it's really showing its age. Now it won't be part of the DR campaign.
- Now DR would be more strongly tied into the events happening during the Delta Quadrant and Iconian war arcs, as before there were no resolution to the preparation efforts characters made.
- Cutscenes, both intro and outro, are updated to modern Westin standards.
- Some reward updates:
- Reaching lvl 60 would award some reputation "goodies" predominantly for fleshing out reputation gear, like marks and salvage.
- Admiralty progression rewards added, campaign requirement tied to characters' faction, with U.S.S. Voyager admiralty card as the final reward.
- All big rewards are still available on any faction, but each faction still have small rewards for their unique arcs.
- "Optional" arcs are now excluded from the progression (Breen, Spectres, Nimbus).
- On the other hand, there are now recruitment tasks in missions up to and including the Iconian war.
- They're planning the rerunning of the other old recruitments. (As said earlier - Temporal next.)
- Jem'Hadar and Starfleets of the past are obviously excluded from the DR.
- Featured episodes rerun seems unlikely to happen at all.
- It took Jesse month of dedicated time to update the recruitment.
- Were they making STO with current knowledge and experience, they would've made Boffs more of a characters, both mechanically and in terms of personality, but the current system is waaaay too deep-rooted.
- Jesse thinks that current system could be improved and is trying to find the time for it (for an example he pointed at training manuals that require too many steps to use).
- They can't make mobile doff or management app, as they don't have team capable of creating it.
- There wouldn't be any new costume rewards to go with updated DR.
- Nothing is preventing DIS-style klingon from being DR.
- Mike refused to comment about the recent Oberth image.
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No kidding. I have been quite baffled by the lack of recruit reruns, and having presumably all of the old ones rerun this year is just a good idea. Frankly they should be doing event reruns too, giving people a break who already have the thingy, while letting other people earn them if they want.
It might be fun to be able to enable "shouts" (battle quips) like in Star Wars TOR and older Bioware games, but Cryptic would probably use the same 3-4 voice actors that do most of the other voices. (Why does my Vulcan science officer sound like Hakeev, and my Andorian like Taris?)
In another 5-10 years we could have real-time speech synthesis for everything a boff says to us, but they aren't quite there yet.
Unless this includes adding TOS Romulans who end up joining the Republic, I am not interested.
I doubt that, considering the fact that for TOS there is next to nothing known about the Romulans to be able to build an entire arc to match the TOS Fed one. Not only that, what reason would a TOS Romulan have to join the Republic, that is rather friendly with the Federation, when there's still some remnant of the Star Empire left?
No... I think they're just revamping some stuff from the existing TOS experience. Hopefully they address a level scaling issue that comes up on trying to replay that TOS arc.
I recently replayed the TOS mission where Daniels and the Nak'uhl reveal themselves to see if they fixed the film grain effect that conflicted badly with lighting 2.0 and the level-scaling issue (they did) and oh boy, I think I took minor psychic damage from that.
It's literally:
*line*
stock emotionless animation with long silence
*line*
stock emotionless animation with long silence
*line*
change of shot with long silence
*line*
emotionless close-up with long silence
And it hurts to watch today.
That's tempo-racist. :P
Mudd and his ridiculously-priced Market can rest easy then.
Tovan Khev with a energy rope around his neck, smiling: "First time?"
So it's fully real and coming soon, thanks for the confirmation, Mike.
I had brought this up with Kael, concerned about future replays, and went into that mission intending to get screenshots. I was pleasantly surprised that the enemies were not spawning at my actual level, but were level synced with me. I was still level scaled down, however, and so any drops were still in the mk 2/3 range, but it was actually enjoyable again because it wasn't a lv 9 Fleet Admiral vs lv 65 mobs.
When the Delta recruits first came out, yes. Those arcs were acutally mainline story as well, and the end of the Breen Arc was actually the point where the future version of the Delta Recruit would contact their past self. But since they are now optional arcs, they're revamping the rewards to reflect that.
If they had went the other route and kept Spectres in Delta while linking AoY to Spectres too they could even have had an in-joke Easter egg were the player finds the time instruments and scans show they they placed it there themselves but has no memory of it before going off to set the AoY version of the probe (or whatever AoY recruits do instead, I missed the event by a day or so when I first started STO).
Of course, if they ever do an update of Spectres and link it back into the regular episode list they could add a few details like cutscene and NPC comment differences depending on whether the character is a Delta, AoY, or normal one (or even more detail since the other recruiting events put flags on the recruits too), and whether Spectres is checked off as as having been done before (using the same flag that determines whether it has the "Skip/Hail" buttons or the "Replay" one) if they want to get fancy and boost replayability.
And yes, minor cutscene and NPC comment differences do work for that, I also play a game called Secret World Legends were people almost always eventually make a character from each faction (even though only one character is free) to see that stuff. All but a few missions are exactly the same no matter which of the three factions you play and the only differences are what the faction handler says (which can be quite humorous), the rare cutscene swap, and some NPC comments sprinkled around that depend on your faction.
I can see why these arcs were "removed" as they were showing their ages, but overall, I think Spectres wasn't so bad (apart from the infuriating "You're being invaded by ghosts slowly killing you and we're running out of time, TRIBBLE you and your nerve tonic, give me the regulator!" part).
Good points, I noticed the mentions in the TOS episodes too, and overall the Drozena arc was pretty good. It should be tweaked and added back.
This pretty much sums up my feelings on the matter.
I would add that, IMO, the worst part of the Cold War arc is the fact that I end up rooting for the Breen because the Defari are so annoying. If it was any other species being invaded by the Breen, it would have been much better.
It's also the very last oldest arc that they had plans to revamp.
Now a race whose core cultural ideal is balance and harmony isn't bad as a concept, but you need there to be more long term thinking then "good+evil=0 short term so everything is at balance" as that creates characters that are annoying and uninteresting.
EDIT:Even the Kentari who are about unsubtly as possible "worst parts of 20th-21st century America" as a Star Trek race have more dimensions to them then the Deferi.