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got kicked from fleet for reporting Armada players bullying me

viperkiller4173viperkiller4173 Member Posts: 2 Arc User
How long dose a report take from PS4 to be looked at?
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  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,865 Arc User
    Unfortunately Cryptic staff don't normally get involved with fleet internal politics. There are no STO rules for fleet management, no bill of rights for fleet members. Fleet leaders are dictators-for-life over their fleets. In a good fleet they act more like elected officials (of the non-corrupt kind) but that's by choice.

    On the bright side, you do NOT lose any fleet credits that you've earned, it's there for you when you join a new fleet. Nor do you lose any fleet gear that you've purchased.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 59,174 Community Moderator
    The only time Cryptic will get involved is if there is evidence that a fleet's conduct has crossed a line. And we only have one example of that, and it took a long time and lots of evidence. Except for VERY SPECIFIC circumstances, its hands off because it is on the players themselves.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,435 Arc User
    The thing is here that in 90% of Internal Fleet drama there's a lot of hearsay but little to no concrete evidence (note that Cryptic does not monitor private chat channels in any way as far as I know) often the only evidence is the accusation and as far as evidence go that's so weak as to be worthless (after all there's nothing to prevent people from making false accusations).

    It's not that Cryptic is being intentionally negligent here but rather there often is no realistic way for them to say who is right in these situations, also in pretty much all games I've played the devs got involved in internal fleet drama only if there was clear and strong evidence so Cryptic is pretty much going by the norm here.

    Note that I'm not accusing the OP of anything but rather trying to explain why Cryptic (or Blizzard or as far as I know Square-Enix) take a hands off approach here.
  • darkbladejkdarkbladejk Member Posts: 3,883 Community Moderator
    Unless there is concrete evidence showing there has been a very specific line crossed that violates ToS, they won't touch stuff like this. Cryptic considers fleets as player owned and ran organizations. If they go involved every time someone complained, that's all they would ever deal with. While you have not given us reason to doubt your account as of yet, as the old saying goes, there's often 3 sides to every story. His side, her side, and the truth. Unless there is something that crosses a ToS line or that could result in real world harm to someone, they won't touch this.
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  • jagdtier44jagdtier44 Member Posts: 376 Arc User
    What would cryptic even do? force them to accept you back into the fleet and make it so they can't get you kicked again? Suspend their account cuse they kicked you out?

    Just have to move on and find another fleet, which is.. insanely easy
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